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[fox127]

Alrighty, so I'm near getting my Scholar 99 / 70 and I've been rattling my brain trying to figure out a stable build for a PvM / WoE styled Sorc.

I've come up with two ideas, I'll list them and give small explanations and I'd just like some feedback on which seems best. (Or closest to the best idea.)

Build #1:
Main points are Fiberlock, Soul Siphon 4, ME 3 as the Scholar skills; with Psychic Wave 5, Killing Cloud / Poison Burst 5, Diamond Dust 5, Earth Grave 5, Warmer 5, and the bare minimum for having Tera as my summon.
I chose Tera simply because it seems to have the ability to give HP increase, which I absolutely love if it's true.

No Foresight because I rarely use it now and none of the Skills so far seem to have a painfully long cast time, so I don't see the point, honestly.
Fiberlock over Extreme Vaccuum, only because I've been told that EV won't last as long as Fiberlock, but I'm not entirely sure about that.
ME 3 only for occasional MvP purposes, it's almost always necessary with any MvP with annoying AoE skills, I believe.
Warmer just for the support style Sorcerer's still have, along with the Insignia for Tera which seems to go hand in hand with Volcano & the popularity of Dragon Breath.
Soul Siphon, Killing Cloud, and Poison Burst are obviously almost exclusively just for WoE situations, so I won't go much further than that.
And finally, P. Wave, Earth Grave, and Diamond Dust just for PvM AoE's; though Earth Grave's chance to cause Bleeding attracts me as well for PvP / WoE situations.

Build #2:
And this is the second idea...
In this one, the main changes are:
Gaining E. Vaccuum 5 & Striking 5, trading Tera for Aqua, and I lose Earth Grave in the specs of a Sorc.
As for the Scholar side, I add in Mind Breaker only for experimenting as the idea is to Mind Breaker my Warlock (both are in different guilds / accs, so it's possible for me, lol) and rampage with that little buff. If anything, the points of Mind Breaker would be added into Endows if this gimmick is not worth going through the trouble for.
So it would look like this instead.

If gear needs to be taken into consideration, my soon-to-be Scholar has access to +9 CoD, +9 Skull Cap / TSoD (soon to be +10), +9 Immune Backpack, Orleans Glove, Nimble Gloves, +7 Valk Shield, +7 Cranial Orlean's Server, Pencil, Black Frame Glasses, Orlean's Gown, Silk Robes with many different cards, +9 Piercing Staff, Nidhoggur's Shadow Garb, Variant Shoes, Sprint set, and a few other gears; as well as having some money for buying other relatively "good" gear.

So, with all that said... any concise and detailed feedback is most appreciated and please feel free to link to other builds or even bring up any relatively helpful advice.
And in advance, thank you.

[fox127]

*shameless bump*

[asayuu]

I feel a lack of Ventus on both builds. Why?

What do you plan to do with the Insignias too? Depending of what you plan, you don't need the level 3, only level 2 can be enough [Ex: Water 2 = 10% extra heal and aoe water endow]

I thought it was easy to figure out the build, but it's hard too. Mine is: http://irowiki.org/~...SrahqkadnaAjhcY

I plan to WOE support though, that's why I focus on having things like maxed Extreme Vacuum and Magnetic Earth.

And "not a painfully cast time"? DID YOU EVER USED PSYCHIC WAVE? ^_^

Other stuff: Diamond Dust is HORRIBLE for PVM aoe unless you can stockpile INT [something like 150 or more]. DD is for WOE or if you have Aqua 2 passive. Both Earth Grave and Diamond Dust requires levels on their respective endows to maximum damage. Formulas of both skills are something like [int * skill level] + [200 * endow level], capping at 1500% with 100 int and maxed endow.

@off: omg someone posted late below.

Edited by asayuu, 22 April 2012 - 04:50 AM.

[IsisThump]

Hm, well let me start out by giving you my PvM/WoE build.

For Mage class skills: I wouldn't max the bolts because you rarely will need to use them. I would definitely max out Stone Curse though for WoE uses.

For Scholar skills: If I were you I wouldn't get Fiber Lock. It's a waste of NINE skill points that can be used for something else. I also don't use Mind Breaker, but hey if you like it, then go with it! And with those extra skill points, I would increase the endow levels for better aoe damage (each element corresponds to respective aoe element, other than endow blaze) and put at least one point in free cast (I like it, but its not necessary).

For Sorc skills, I would say take out spirit sympathy and cure because you can just recall them if they die. And most of the time they won't survive some aoe skills in woe. You definitely want EV for WoE. Striking is just your opinion. It's basically if you want to support or not to support =P. It can help raise Ranger's AS damage by a lot, but it also costs you 5 skill points =p. Striking also increases VS damage, but I don't use that skill >_< (I dislike it a lot :<). For summons, do NOT get Tera! He does give you HP, but its such a waste imo >_<! Ventus is probably one of the best, if not the best, because he reduces your fixed cast time by one second which helps soooo much in WoE! Aqua is good too since it increases MATK, but I decided not to get it. I also never used insignias/poison burst so I can't give you an idea about those skills xD.

I hope this helped (I feel like it's kinda messy @__@)! If you have any further questions feel free to ask~. Also remember that people have different play styles, so some skills might just do you !

P.S.: Aii is crazy o; . She's to obsessed with Tera D:! And Killing Cloud is very useful. It hit-locks people for a while in pre-cast and then I just kill them off with a different AoE~!

Edited by IsisThump, 22 April 2012 - 04:45 AM.

[asayuu]

Tera 3 passive is 15% max HP! 15% is more than a Peco Peco card! But the cast time from Ventus is the best thing from the summons. Psychic Wave is one of the worst skills EVER, when we talk about cast time. I got Tera first because I wanted the insignia. This late person [^^^^] got mad at me!

I want to try the summons defense mode too, wonder how they work. Immunity to all physical damage with Ventus 3-defense here I go [if the skill still work THAT way]

Edited by asayuu, 22 April 2012 - 04:59 AM.

[sono405]

hmm, I suppose I should share my knowledge. I'll start by giving you a link to my skill build
http://irowiki.org/~...rflahckndn1fUcY
first of all EV pretty much sucks, I've tested it in pvp on an RG with 100 total str, it lasted 1 second ground target so its hard to target moving people. I've precasted with it, you either snap or use other skills to bypass, i prefer the targeting of fiberlock and the instant cast of it
from bottom up
mage skills are situational FD SC SW is someone using a GR? FD siphon VS. are they wearing unfrozen? SC siphon DD before they freeze for the lucky freezing which keeps them from potting then earth insignia summon agni lvl 2 passive PW
sage skills
they explain themselves, i prefer using HD1 to remove those in hide status over using sight, this way if its a sura then i can hide or get a lucky DD/dispell/etc
mind break and foresight are close to being worthless, PW is not your main skill DD is VS is and these skills become near instant on their own.
as for sorc skills i like having the versatility of elements. killing cloud is a great DPS about 6k a second in pvp obviously less in woe in increments of 3 per second2k 2k 2k.
not for damage but to keep people from moving. when i precast its earth insignia killing cloud on the door, volcano and strings under me aqua lvl 2 passive and a DB rk beside me
earth insignia makes fireattacks do more to people standing on it if they are wearing firearmor then my PW precast does 13k per second, my DD even more

there are many ways to tweak this build, its all up to you, my advice is that the best way to use insignia is offensive. use your guild members to your advantage and support them, striking is insanely leet. you should pvp a bunch to learn how to fight suras, its very complicated, you will never kill a sura that just spams blues and whites but if its a sura that knows how to play then you'll have more fun and learn more. hope i helped~