Patch Notes v.405
#126
Posted 02 May 2012 - 02:11 AM
#127
Posted 02 May 2012 - 02:13 AM
We have a new project we are working on? must be a patch that dont crash or bug us out. Its not orlo 3 since its new to rose Wait maybe its a patch that actually patches
Huh? I am lost!
#128
Posted 02 May 2012 - 04:01 AM
Us cleric gotta stop crying to much. Look at the knight class, they don't earn points at all and I don't see them complain that much. Cleric still top the points list rather often and is on par with champ and arti in the points department.
The only class that deserve to cry about anything is the knight class, they don't earn points for tanking and drawing enemy and holding the front line. They really need a boost in point.
I do agree the knight class gets a really low amount of points. So far, after playing approximately 20 games of crystal defenders, some good some bad, I have not seen a single knight getting 100 points (and there were quite a few among the players). Closest I got with my crossbow knight was 75. Usually I get about 20-35 points in a fight , though this isn't much of a problem to me since I don't need points anymore.Ya!!!! i was crying for points the last time!I was like yelling Cm Calanor to increase the earned pts for Knights. Coz we do the major task in arena for tanking a bunch of creeps.
However, other players may need to get their points, and with a knight (and several other classes that don't have that much dmg, it's not only the knight) it is nearly impossible to do.
#129
Posted 02 May 2012 - 04:43 AM
I do agree the knight class gets a really low amount of points. So far, after playing approximately 20 games of crystal defenders, some good some bad, I have not seen a single knight getting 100 points (and there were quite a few among the players). Closest I got with my crossbow knight was 75. Usually I get about 20-35 points in a fight , though this isn't much of a problem to me since I don't need points anymore.
However, other players may need to get their points, and with a knight (and several other classes that don't have that much dmg, it's not only the knight) it is nearly impossible to do.
Yes, knight get low points most of the time even when I worked really hard for it!
Anyway, I am glad I finally got my 1st 100points 2 days back! Btw, I am a cg knight
Back to the cleric topic, I seen a cleric which do nothing but heal crystal only. She don't even bother to buff and talk to anyone .... Guess heal crystal do earn her really lots of points
#130
Posted 02 May 2012 - 05:07 AM
therefore the problem is the shoe
THUS, i should complain! o_o
It is the shoes, looks like a ZSC issue o.O but for someone to troll away and blame your graphics card truly shoes how little they actually know about rose.
#131
Posted 02 May 2012 - 05:23 AM
Yes, knight get low points most of the time even when I worked really hard for it!
Anyway, I am glad I finally got my 1st 100points 2 days back! Btw, I am a cg knight
Back to the cleric topic, I seen a cleric which do nothing but heal crystal only. She don't even bother to buff and talk to anyone .... Guess heal crystal do earn her really lots of points
That cleric we should call it the professional crystal defender, he is very focus that is why he has no time to buff and talk to anyone, and he fully understood his goals is to make sure that the life of crystal doesn't go down and dying.
#132
Posted 02 May 2012 - 05:39 AM
We will see what the class balance brings and if the new calculations for clerics is reasonable. As you see, most of the clerics were the first to say that when the arena first came out we were getting too many points. We don't want it to be unfair, but we do like to be appreciated for the work we are doing, just like the fighters do.
#133
Posted 02 May 2012 - 07:04 AM
Last game, we, as the defenders, had one cleric. The other side had seven. Whereas they didn't have a problem at all healing eachother, the rest of the team kept on asking the cleric for buffs and heals everywhere.
The fight was chaotic, and ended after only a minute or ten.
Could you try to make it so that the clerics are getting split amongst the two teams? With exception for when people form groups on their own ofcourse.
#134
Posted 02 May 2012 - 07:13 AM
#135
Posted 02 May 2012 - 07:45 AM
Someone should try to gather a team of 15 clerics for one game.
I'm in.
I would think that if a cleric is in a small group already(4 ppl) and one in another group(5 ppl) and one in another group (6 ppl) that all equals 15 then that side will have 3 clerics. And if say 1 cleric has signed up as an individual and the other 14 people are fighters that signed up in small groups or individuals they would go on the opposite side. How could you then pull one of the clerics from the opposite side? If they are in groups with clannies or friends I would assume they want to be with them. I would be angry if I was then taken out of that group of clannies and put on the opposite side and had to fight my clannies.
I would think that if clerics are signed up as individuals then balancing them between sides would be fair, but if they want to fight with a particular group then they should be able to. I am not sure if there is a way to do that though.
How about people stop relying on the clerics so much? I know buffs make a huge difference but as long as you have really good gear and health pots you should be able to do some damage. I still can't believe how many people are going in the arena without hp or mp pots. And I don't even want to talk about the people who still think that during a war I should stand there and buff them with buff sets. And if I say no time, lets go here are full buffs I get yelled at lol. To win the war it might be good to consider some strategy, do the best you can even if you die a lot, bring food and play to have fun. Winning or losing in the arena is not life or death (IRL) and should not effect people as much as it does. And it certainly does not warrent all of the trash talking to clerics and the whinning that is going on.
And btw not everything is fair and teams will not be balanced all the time.
Edited by Bendersmom, 02 May 2012 - 07:46 AM.
#136
Posted 02 May 2012 - 08:44 AM
#137
Posted 02 May 2012 - 09:05 AM
Don't say that too loud, they may cut our points again.I healed my ass off today in CD most heal was around 800k and not a single 100.. point ranged from 60 down
#138
Posted 02 May 2012 - 10:37 AM
#139
Posted 02 May 2012 - 12:23 PM
What, did you expect me not to be defensive when you're assuming that I regard newbies in GA with the same distaste as I would for ?????? Do you know what you sound like?
I worked for my gear through earning points in UW, and believe me, UW was a lot harder for me to earn points because it meant that I had to be on Rose a certain time and due to life outside of Rose I couldn't always go on in time. And when I play, I play on the attacking side, usually against 20 vs 1 odds and I try not to leech like 90% of the people on my side who participate and expect points when they don't deserve them. The sad thing is that in the end I got less points than those leechers on the other side and (oh no!) wasn't rewarded for my efforts. But I still kept playing because I wanted to balance it and because it was better than sitting around and doing nothing for thirty minutes. Plus it could occasionally get fun.
In comparison with GA, where I get like close to 1k points a day compared to getting 1k in a few months, GA in of itself is a godsend to newbies and to people who can't always make the deadline. That's another one of the reasons I don't get why people are complaining about getting enough points. I guess more is not enough.
You might want to experience GA for yourself and make your own judgement based on your own experience instead of basing it on other's. Other than that, let's work toward a solution to this. How do you want points to be distributed then? If everybody gets an A for effort, then there's not much to it is there? We can argue about the finer intricacies and semantics of Internet debating on a Rated 10+ MMORPG gaming forum through PM.
Edited by Zurn, 02 May 2012 - 04:18 PM.
#140
Posted 02 May 2012 - 12:44 PM
#141
Posted 02 May 2012 - 01:00 PM
Facebook 10k Likes Event
- As we get closer to reaching 10k likes on Facebook, we have a few events that will be going on.
- Thanks for everyone who shared ROSE with their friends to help us unlock the "Thumbs Up! T-Shirt".
- Players can obtain the T-Shirt by completing an event style quest from [Designer] Lisa in Junon Polis.
- Quest Level Restriction: 100
- No preview of the item will be given, you will have to find out in-game!
- Only one shirt can be obtained per character
Will this be permanent or will this end in a particular date? (The quest option to get the shirt)
#142
Posted 02 May 2012 - 01:01 PM
Unless you're a knight, scout, gun bourg, dual raider or any class that doesn't have a lot of dmg, then it's nearly impossible to get 100 (:The honor points to be owned in the crystal defence is much more easy, predictable and simple than UW, what you need to do is to extend the time of game, and everyone dealing damages within the vicinity of crystals, then, most probably you will get 70-100 points per game!
#143
Posted 02 May 2012 - 01:04 PM
Unless you're a knight, scout, gun bourg, dual raider or any class that doesn't have a lot of dmg, then it's nearly impossible to get 100 (:
I have seen bourgeois, scout and raider getting 100 points many time before, not yet seen any knights and dual raider!
#144
Posted 02 May 2012 - 01:07 PM
First, katar raider doesn't have low damage. Their attack power is low, but the attack speed is very high, plus they have burn and poison as extra damage.I have seen bourgeois, scout and raider getting 100 points many time before, not yet seen any knights and dual raider!
Scouts can do fairly good amount of damage, also they have poison, which does quite some damage as well.
Bourg can get 100 points easily, especially cannon bourgs, due to aoeing.
Knights however, with lowest damage output, is quite a lot harder.
And you don't see dual raiders scoring 100 points.. cause there are no dual raiders.
Edited by jerremy, 02 May 2012 - 01:07 PM.
#145
Posted 02 May 2012 - 01:21 PM
#146
Posted 02 May 2012 - 01:41 PM
I think sword knight also got aoe, boost knight damages or increase the knight attack speed to compensate the low damages out put, how is it? Ha...ha!BOOST KNIGHTS POINTS 2012!
#147
Posted 02 May 2012 - 01:56 PM
But seriously, in this game arena, anyone with aoe can easily gain 100 points compared to other classes without it.
Yes, Xbow-knights would be the hardest to score points unless he/she focuses on hitting the crystal all throughout.
Six-stick bow gun actually has a high attack speed plus add some attack speed gears, gaining points will be more easier with normal attacks than skilling.
Exhaust every method possible before complaining for G's sake. If you don't get 100 points on your class then change class.
Edited by Cloudius, 02 May 2012 - 03:13 PM.
#148
Posted 02 May 2012 - 03:58 PM
@Nelko
What, did you expect me not to be defensive when you're assuming that I regard newbies in GA with the same distaste as I would for ??????
Correction: the address was to the community. The simile, which was to compare the current hostility and regard for Clerics at that point in time, was in fact incorrectly used because in both parallels of the comparison, the community was specifically cited; whereas, a technically correct simile was to establish a comparison using two completely unrelated ideas.
Now why you believe you should juxtapose yourself as the embodiment of the entire community is beyond me.
You really should also stop circumventing the censorship system in place. It is a punishable offense, as per Hastur's declaration:
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Content Just Not Allowed.
- Posting content that is blocked by our Word Filter. Do not add spaces or modify the word so it gets around the word filter. The words are blocked for a reason.
Now that we're clear on this, let me also iterate one more thing: the usage of Nationalist Socialist is no mistake, despite my utter distaste of having to resort to using it. National Socialism is, contrary to popular belief, an ideology. The difference between it and the people you cited, is that the people you cited practiced one version of it. In fact, the reason why Nationalist Socialist or National Socialism isn't filtered at all is that the ideology completely different from the people who practice it.
There are nations in this modern age that we are living in now that still practices their own version of this ideology. Why? Because the actual governing principles that come with the foundations of this ideology allow a nation to grow stronger internally, rather than depend on capitalism or communism for economic strength. These nations, in fact -- while being in close proximity to Europe -- are often absent in the daily "recession news" in Bloomberg or your choice news service, because their economy is almost completely independent of trade with other capitalist countries.
But the fact that you instantly thought of such people upon hearing Nationalist Socialist is glaring evidence of the presumptuous, judgemental, and borderline prejudicial mindset that apparently can be likened to the air of hostility against the Clerics who for the most part are trying to internally strengthen a class that has been and only ever been depended on as a training companion (albeit part-tank and part-mute), a Crystal healer or spawn point buff dispenser.
Why? And why now? It's because now that they are of great use again (Calanor himself mandated that buff potions will not be included in Crystal Defenders, thereby cementing the class' significance), the opportunity to create growing interest in Clerics has arrived.
True -- there is no shortage of Clerics in the game, but this is only because the creation of the Cleric itself for many players was a means to an end. Knights aren't created for the same reason, including Bourgeois, Artisans, Raiders, and Scouts. In contrast, Champs are created for another means to an end, and quite frankly, so are Mages.
I've recruited a pal who, for his first character, decided to become a cleric first, because support is his best interest. He was driven away from the game due to personal reasons, but for the most part, his excuse for not returning is because of the current stance of any member of the community is that a buffer like him has the sole responsibility to hand out such buffs even when not demanded to.
Now the next time I have the opportunity to speak with him again, I'd like to have good news about the class he's wanted to start with and deliver the encouragement he's ever needed to finish it to the end. I'd really like for him to be able to want to stick with the character he has chosen as a first and enjoy playing it through and through until he develops a taste or curiosity for other the classes.
Edited by Zurn, 02 May 2012 - 04:19 PM.
#149
Posted 02 May 2012 - 04:42 PM
[Sniff] [Sniff] Hmmm... I think I smell a troll.
#150
Posted 02 May 2012 - 04:58 PM
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