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[Knightlazarus]

You guys are gonna get this topic locked... xD

Sorry we will stop lol. I apologize.

[Senkasa]

Im not a CM but I figured It'd best to be back on topic before the Modhammer comes in with the red ink

Also; Active bot bans please/bot stalks please?! We still need this in many cases like the spores map where straws are constantly botted...

Most of the bots you can pretty much figure out with the same old generic cat/beret and/or the same hairstyle consistently with gibberish names

Edited by Senkasa, 14 May 2012 - 09:24 AM.

[Knightlazarus]

Im not a CM.

Yeah I know.

[TrashBag]

Bots that camp minibosses (or maybe even MVPs?!) is making it start to become out of hand. I would really like to get rid of those if possible. Not sure if buffing angeling/deviling/ghostring is a solution though. Miniboss Gravestones aren't really ideal unless we can specify which ones they apply to, as many monsters are boss protocol. There would have to be some way to separate the 1-spawn boss protocol types from the regular spawn ones.

From what I can tell, it shouldn't be too hard to spot the low level ones farming supplies like poison spore, immortal heart, ygg seeds. I'm not sure why the GMs aren't a bit more proactive in taking care of those, since they really just use those few maps where they drop (geffen dungeon 1, mjolnir field 6, pyramids B1F / 3F, etc.). You can pretty much log into those maps once a day and ban the whole bot farm. Pretty sure the botters will get sick of entering captcha codes all the time for making accounts (unless they're bypassing that too?)

Aa I mention b4 GM don't play the game, they're justt there to collect pay check. They will only do or will not do something totally at all even if u open a ticket.

[Drak231]

As I said, log-ing into the game each day will not stop the bots. They will always find another way around like other maps, etc.

Automated solution FTW. Just study all the possibilities and implement one which would actually work with some percs.

Edited by Drak231, 15 May 2012 - 08:21 AM.

[kasshin]

Other maps won't work if the item they are after or trying to farm is a specific one, like immortal hearts.

[TheSquishy]

We need mutli-layered protection, and automated solutions is the way to go.

I wonder if a tasty monster surrounded by portals to bot jail would work?

[TheLastExile]

Ygg: Suras Rangers Gxs > Every other class >...>

[Heart]

Ymir = a ghost town (75% are vendors)
Valkyrie = Watch iRobot featuring Will Smith and you'll see the similarities. (bots completely outnumber humans)
Yggdrasil = 7/10 humans, 3/10 bots. Roughly an estimate.

i loved the movie but yea we still have far more PLAYERS than on ygg

[DonSaul]

Oh gosh... I was away from RO for long long time (valk opening). And I decided to try it again. So I went into my swordie in Valk and picked up Alligator quest to lvl up a bit. After travelling to Alligator map I saw dozens of rogues and sins botting..... I was so upset.... I closed the client and cried =(.

Nostalgia is usless nowadays.... It would be a titanic task to report all of them sigh....

Population topic got me here, any advice for a server for a old school RO player?

Thanks,

[TheSquishy]

Come to Ymir.
Mostly real players and many of them may even be not afk.

[kasshin]

Alligators is a bad place to go since YGG seeds are in super demand... : \

[Niji]

Come to Ymir.
Mostly real players and many of them may even be not afk.

i'm not afk i'm just zoned out...

[DylanM40]

I'm testing out the servers as well. Ymir seems less laggy than Valk. Haven't tried Yggdrasil yet.

In Valk server honestly haven't had much trouble at all. The bots maybe bad in some areas but really don't cause much problems in my opinion. I just start Ymir last night and so far so good don't really have any complaints. Lot less bots for sure on Ymir. I'll probably get to trying out Yggdrasil pretty soon.

Edited by DylanM40, 24 May 2012 - 01:06 PM.

[huad]

Ymir = a ghost town (75% are vendors)
Valkyrie = Watch iRobot featuring Will Smith and you'll see the similarities. (bots completely outnumber humans)
Yggdrasil = 7/10 humans, 3/10 bots. Roughly an estimate.

Valk has the most real players of all 3 servers. I don't play Ymir nor Ygg, but it's pretty damn obvious. Sure there's a lot of bots, but people always exaggerate how many there are. Our woe's are very active and turn in maps are very active. People get parties going on all the time at turn ins and obviously none of those are bots. you can't say that ymir is free of bots either.

also, i'm looking at the number of users on right now vs. the peak in the last 7 days. there's a 600 difference between the amount of users on valk right at this moment vs. the peak in the last 7 days, whereas on ymir it's only 300. that 600 difference on valk and 300 difference on ymir are probably mostly actual players. even just comparing the number of vend shops, where valk 300 and ymir is 100 shops. sure some of those venders on valk are venders of botters, but i'm pretty certain most are legit players.

tl dr: valk has the most actual players of all 3 servers, ymir has a higher fraction of real players but has less real players overall

Edited by huad, 24 May 2012 - 01:20 PM.

[CeruleanGamer]

Valk has the most real players of all 3 servers. I don't play Ymir nor Ygg, but it's pretty damn obvious. Sure there's a lot of bots, but people always exaggerate how many there are. Our woe's are very active and turn in maps are very active. People get parties going on all the time at turn ins and obviously none of those are bots. you can't say that ymir is free of bots either.

also, i'm looking at the number of users on right now vs. the peak in the last 7 days. there's a 600 difference between the amount of users on valk right at this moment vs. the peak in the last 7 days, whereas on ymir it's only 300. that 600 difference on valk and 300 difference on ymir are probably mostly actual players. even just comparing the number of vend shops, where valk 300 and ymir is 100 shops. sure some of those venders on valk are venders of botters, but i'm pretty certain most are legit players.

tl dr: valk has the most actual players of all 3 servers, ymir has a higher fraction of real players but has less real players overall

It's not the numbers, we are talking about here. It's the ratio of legits to botters.

[Lynex]

Oh gosh... I was away from RO for long long time (valk opening). And I decided to try it again. So I went into my swordie in Valk and picked up Alligator quest to lvl up a bit. After travelling to Alligator map I saw dozens of rogues and sins botting..... I was so upset.... I closed the client and cried =(.

Nostalgia is usless nowadays.... It would be a titanic task to report all of them sigh....

Population topic got me here, any advice for a server for a old school RO player?

Thanks,

Ymir.

Came back post renewal (They baited me with a free month of VIP) after quitting somewhere around the Louyang patch. I had gotten all the help I needed to get back into playing. People seem like they just AFK, but you'll find the largest % of active players inside Eden Group. Just hop in there and ask questions, someone is sure to answer/help.