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[JuJuRue]

I missed out on the homunuculus reset when it was offered when the Homunuculus S were introduced. Should I kill my Filir and start over?

My poor Jinx, I love him so.

[Kalandros]

Only if its the evolved filir, if its the basic then you should be fine.

[DrAzzy]

If it's not evolved, or if it was evolved after the Homun S update, it's okay.

If it was evolved before that, it's hp/sp are gimped (tell us the hp/sp and level to be sure) and you need to remake it.

[JuJuRue]

I evolved him a LONG time before renual had been implemented.

He's level 85 with 5228 HP and 397 SP.

Dang... I guess I have to go say my goodbyes now.

[robrod]

If it was evolved before that, it's hp/sp are gimped (tell us the hp/sp and level to be sure) and you need to remake it.

Is there any proof for this at all?

I changed my "pre-R" Vani into a Dieter recently (well, weeks ago, but still I missed that Patch/fix/reset all people are talking about) and if the stat growth of my lvl 120 Dieter keeps going like now, I will hit 30k HP (just as all other 150 Dieters so far) as well my stats will be much better then what was posted so far (actually some of my stats are already better).

Getting 444* HP avg. per lvl up for the last 20 Levels.

If there is something like a HP/SP/stat gap between "old" and "remade" homuns, then it is marginal. But (speaking for Dieter at least), all we want are the HomunS skills anyway so why care.

* fixed values, also, 2k more HP falls under the marginal rule

Edited by robrod, 14 May 2012 - 11:19 AM.

[Realus]

Is there any proof for this at all?

I changed my "pre-R" Vani into a Dieter recently (well, weeks ago, but still I missed that Patch/fix/reset all people are talking about) and if the stat growth of my lvl 120 Dieter keeps going like now, I will hit 30k HP (just as all other 150 Dieters so far) as well my stats will be much better then what was posted so far (actually some of my stats are already better).

Getting 333 HP avg. per lvl up for the last 20 Levels.

If there is something like a HP/SP/stat gap between "old" and "remade" homuns, then it is marginal. But (speaking for Dieter at least), all we want are the HomunS skills anyway so why care.

Other people reported that their Dieter's hit the HP cap, and went many levels without gaining any more HP.
So if you hit the cap at 150, that's only proof of Dieter's godly HP growth, not pre-renewal homunculus not having bad HP/SP values.

Besides, you say 333 HP per level... and he only has 30 levels to go.
That's +9990 HP, on top of it's current 16811.... that means it will have around 26801~ HP at 150 if it's growth remains constant.
That's quite some way from the cap of 32k~ or whatnot.

Now, on for some proof? I'm too lazy to crop and upload pictures... so you'll just have to take my word for it, but...

HP/SP of my friend's 99, Pre-Renewal-Evolved Vani: 9061 / 304
HP/SP of my 99, Post-Renewal-Evolved Vani: 14309 / 995

You may choose to believe that my vani magically got a good growth, and has over 5k HP (160%), and close to more than 700 SP (330%) then my friend's vani.
Or you can just take it as proof to Post-Renewal-Evolved homunculus have better HP/SP than Pre-Renewal-Evolved.

[Tetsamaru]

If will have to chime in as well.
Pre-renewal Homunculus that are evolved DO get gimped hp and sp.
Vanilmirth pre-renewal 8904 hp and 365 SP compared to 13188hp and 811 SP

This is on the same Alchemist. That was his stats for my little sister's Vanilmirth in pre-renewal. She reseted with the Homunculus Intamacy event.

[robrod]

Did she 150 her pre-R "gimped" one before deleting it? It's the stats at level 150 I'm curious, not the 99 stats right after changing. They doesn't matter at all when the growth make up for it and we will end up all the same, except you plan to live with a <150 homun lol...

Need comparison of pre-Renewal 150 vs post-Renewal 150, so nope, a 99 vs another 99 is no proof for me right now, thank you tho. Figured there's not enough input at the moment.

[olbaid]

Unlike players, the HP/SP of a homunculus is not based on the stats and has its own growth. So even if the gimped homun hits the stat cap, it will not be able to make up the missing HP/SP.