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[Bahamut2]

Is the relation between Zeny/KP spent worth the use of Enriched Mighty Hammer?
Right now im a little lost in making the calculations.

I have calculated aprox. zeny spent for upgrading items with HD Ore.
But as mighty hammer uses Enriched Ores (that are like triple the money/KP of HD Ores), i don't know if it really worths. You spend triple money with ores but you get a bit of better percentage and also never breaks (but degrade means you also spend more ores).

Is there any webpage that calculates the new "enriched mighy hammer" formula?
Thanks!

Q1: If item drops to +6, can you reupgrade without closing the window like with the HD ores?
Q2: Is it better to upgrade with normal ores till +6 or +7? (so if it fails you use normal ores again)

Edited by Bahamut2, 25 May 2012 - 11:57 PM.

[Fluffylovr]

enriched works like might hammer, can continue below 7 as long as you dont close chat.

edit// Also, its all in your luck. I got 7-9 in 2 ores before, and 7-9 in 100+ ores before. But average is 20-30 ores. C:

Edited by Fluffylovr, 24 May 2012 - 11:39 PM.

[Kalandros]

Mighty Hammer uses HD Oridecon, HD Elunium, HD Bradium and HD Carnium
Enriched Hammer uses Enriched Oridecon and Enriched Elunium
Make sure the NPC is available before buying from the kafra shop

[Tetsamaru]

You can't get +10 with Enriched Hammer or go beyond +10. So you are going to eventually use Mighty Hammer sooner or later once you finish getting your other equipment to +9.

[DrAzzy]

http://forums.warppo...nriched-hammer/

[majorBoobage]

Ah, my time has come! It's always cheaper and better to use Enriched Hammer.
http://wiki.ragmar.c...efining-Studies
http://wiki.ragmar.c...Refining-System

[DrAzzy]

Ah, my time has come! It's always cheaper and better to use Enriched Hammer.
http://wiki.ragmar.c...efining-Studies
http://wiki.ragmar.c...Refining-System

You've gotten essentially the same results I got for sub-+10 upgrading.

Your numbers are in the loony-zone for above 10 upgrading. This is trivial to solve theoretically, but you chose to do it numerically instead, and your simulation is giving bogus results for +13 and 14.

[majorBoobage]

You've gotten essentially the same results I got for sub-+10 upgrading.

Your numbers are in the loony-zone for above 10 upgrading. This is trivial to solve theoretically, but you chose to do it numerically instead, and your simulation is giving bogus results for +13 and 14.

Jesus... would it make you math nuts happier if I put the predicted average based on a formula in there? This is a simulation. I'm sorry if it doesn't match your numbers, but ask yourself how often the averages actually hold up in-game? That's the whole reason I did a simulation of it. All I did was copy and paste the numbers after running the simulation many a hundred-thousand times.

[Bahamut2]

Im sorry but i wanted to talk about "enriched mighty hammer" not the normal mighty hammer so i changed the tittle.
I mean about the difference of money spent when using HD Ores (10kp) vs enriched Ores (21kp), its like double the price for upgrading!
Does it worht the double price for the more of chance u get? (like 10% more?)

[Pandapoop]

ENRICHED HAMMER > MIGHTY HAMMER to +9.

1. Less variation...
2. Less KP per +9...
3. Gravity wouldn't put it in as a "bonus" now and then if it was the same or worse.

It's roughly 2.5x cheaper to do Enriched Hammer versus Mighty Hammer - leave it at that.

[Bahamut2]

Thanks for clarification, also this page helped a lot: http://wiki.ragmar.c...efining-Studies thas to "majorboobage"
lets hope i can now +9 any of my equips in my RO life lol

[Bahamut2]

Can i open Enriched Oris Boxes while the dialog is open?
Can i buy Enricihed Oris from the shops while the dialog is open?
Can i buy Enriched Oris from the Cash Shop or Kafra Shops while the dialog is open?
Can i trade with someone while the dialog is open? (i tested this and the trade is accepted, but when you click TRADE the dialog of Enriche Hammer autocloses so i think this is not working)

Tt is supposd you could do so with the HD Oris and Mighty Hammer right?

[Maximusss]

You already got the ultimate answer, i don't know why you didn't read that: http://forums.warppo...nriched-hammer/
DrAzzy explained it perfectly
The higher chances make it a lot better in the long run.
Then: You cannot oppen boxes during a dialogue anymore.
Buying: not to sure actually, not the boxes atleast xD.
Trade: nope.

Same goes for HD upgrading.

[Bahamut2]

Thanks!