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#1 Yomihime

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 09:12 AM

As the title said, pls help me to decide (build can still be changed a bit however) ^^

With silentium:
http://irowiki.org/~...BsNkbdnrCgNmucY

With sacrament:
http://irowiki.org/~...BsOkbdsrAafcHcY

Few things about my play style:
-I prefer to do TI with a party but I prefer to grind alone.
-I don't really care about cast time and delay, even though sacra is very useful as long as cast time and delay aren't that annoying it's ok for me.
-I want to be capable to support a TI party alone at least, so it doesn't have to be lv5 HH, lv4 res, lv7 sanc and lv5 sacrament.
-I'd love to be able to grind alone at NI3.
-I don't WoE due to time zone, I'm already asleep even before it starts lol.
-I never solo a MVP before, but I'd love to kick FBH's (I might exaggerate a bit here) ass alone.

Thank you for helping beforehand.

Edited by Yomihime, 25 May 2012 - 10:26 AM.

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 09:30 AM

I have one identical to the sacrament one, you can support with it easilly.

You don't need silentium for anything.
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Posted 25 May 2012 - 09:31 AM

Sacrament is very skill point heavy especially for someone who is not a FULL SUPPORT build. I'd go with Silentium if you're an Adoramus/ME. If you do get Sacrament, you won't have Max High Heal so you can't support as good as a Full Support. :(

Also, Clearance is really, really useful in WoE.

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 09:45 AM

check out ME's cast time

sacrament helps although not necessary, makes supporting a billion times easier.

wtf are you going to use silentium on, serious question. By the time you've silenced things they should be dead.
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Posted 25 May 2012 - 10:01 AM

Sacrament is very skill point heavy especially for someone who is not a FULL SUPPORT build. I'd go with Silentium if you're an Adoramus/ME. If you do get Sacrament, you won't have Max High Heal so you can't support as good as a Full Support. :(

Also, Clearance is really, really useful in WoE.


Oops, forgot to mention that I don't WoE due to time zone lol

check out ME's cast time

sacrament helps although not necessary, makes supporting a billion times easier.

wtf are you going to use silentium on, serious question. By the time you've silenced things they should be dead.


For banshees with crit wound or TI mobs with annoying skill such as KK and her JT and bolt skills.
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Posted 25 May 2012 - 10:03 AM

I'd like to see you silence kathy. It lasts like 0.05 seconds if even that. There's a reason priests don't go into those TIs spamming silence. And that reason is that it doesn't work.

Banshees will cast it on you before you silence them, unless you're casting it over a ledge around a corner. You're better off just casting faster for survival.
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Posted 25 May 2012 - 10:07 AM

I'd like to see you silence kathy. It lasts like 0.05 seconds if even that. There's a reason priests don't go into those TIs spamming silence. And that reason is that it doesn't work.

Banshees will cast it on you before you silence them, unless you're casting it over a ledge around a corner. You're better off just casting faster for survival.


How long does the silence status last anyway? Nobody ever mention it.
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Posted 25 May 2012 - 10:09 AM

It's based on monster stats and your level of lex divina

Kathy is practically immune to it.

So a base time of 50 seconds for your build (Lex D level 5) minus KATHYS RESISTANCE which is huge.

Having high VIT, INT and LUK will reduce amount of time this ailment affects you, as well as chance of being affected.


so for kathy :
Agi Vit Int Dex Luk
78 55 144 209 49


Or banshee :
Agi Vit Int Dex Luk
71 55 143 137 72

Edited by Xellie, 25 May 2012 - 10:14 AM.

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 10:11 AM

Well, if you really have to silence one banshee before she catches you, throw Lex Divina, it's instant cast. Doubt you would get mobbed by Banshees.

The Clearance/Silentium build is more useful at WOE, and only this if you have a partner AB with Sacrament together. For solo, only plan on Silentium if your variable cast time reduction is more than 80%. (so the cast won't take more than one second)

I want a solo build, and this build does not include Sacrament in no way, because I hate wasting skill points (Not talking about Sacra, but the 9999 prereqs). I prefer having Epiclesis 5, High Heal 5 and Clearance 5 if possible.
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Posted 25 May 2012 - 10:16 AM

But those aren't solo skills asayuu, that confuses me.
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Posted 25 May 2012 - 10:24 AM

Hmm... Maybe for solo MVP? Or Clearance does not remove Power-up?

I will try to work on my judgement pieces to get DEX enchants, to get as close as possible to the instant cast. Which is the highest value of DEX a judgement piece can receive?

Edited by asayuu, 25 May 2012 - 10:26 AM.

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 10:25 AM

Can you tank an mvp whilst casting clearence on it in power up? >.< (trying to think what mvp this is relevant too. Doppel? Thanatos? LOD....? Osiris? Drake?) I guess it would work

No idea on judgement set, too fond my my defence to risk using it.

Edited by Xellie, 25 May 2012 - 10:29 AM.

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 10:29 AM

Well yeah, I would like to fight mainly LoD and Dracula. And anything else my build could allow me.
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Posted 25 May 2012 - 10:30 AM

You'll be good with Osi, dark lord, maybe leak? lol. Drake will prob rape you with waterball and Thanatos does actually hurt.

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 10:59 AM

Thanks a lot everyone, but still looking for opinions from others :P
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