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#1 Xendras13

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 05:36 PM

OK, so I've got a level 96 Filir, and I'm torn up between which homunculus to choose as Homunculus S. I'm an MVP build, except that I started my Filir when I was a different build, and I've gotten really attached to it, so I don't wanna kill it and start a new one unless completely necessary. My prime choices would be either Eleanor or Dieter, maybe Sera except I'm really iffy about her sprite xD. So my question is, if I turned my Filir into Dieter, would this have any negative impact on ability to help in leveling/ fighting MVPs when it hits 150? I know it'd have low HP/SP, so I'd keep it mostly around for mostly around for Pyroclastic/Granitic Armor/ Volcanic Ash, maybe AOE? Other choice would be Eleanor, but I'm not sure how good she is for leveling/fighting MVPs. Also, I'm probably gonna move towards PVP at endgame. Any help appreciated, thanks.


P.S. My Filir stat's(without buffs) are:

HP: 7831

SP: 677

Atk: 120

MAtk: 306

Hit: 382

Critical: 26

Def: 217

MDef: 157

Flee: 255

ASPD: 184


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#2 DrAzzy

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 08:19 PM

Eleanor is for PVP. Filir->Elly is good except that they level poorly. Not useful at all on mvp though.

A filir -> Dieter will have fine HP/SP what are you talking about? Dieter gets really good hp/sp growth - Anything -> Dieter will end with good hp/sp.
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Posted 26 May 2012 - 11:41 PM

Based on data from my dieter (amistr based) and Filir I would expect that at 150 a filir -> dieter to have around 1.5k less hp than either a vani -> dieter or an amistr -> dieter. If homunculus didn't have a HP cap of 32767 then the difference would be much larger (As my amistr->dieter is expected to reach max hp by level 139).

Assumptions:
HP of 99 Filir - 8529 (My 99 evolved filir)
HP gain when turning from 99 homunculus to 99 dieter - 1656 (MY amistr - > dieter)
HP growth of 412 per level as dieter (average from levelling my 99 dieter to 129)

Therefore if I turned my 99 filir into a dieter then I would expect it to have around 31197 hp at 150.

* Homunculus growth rates can vary. These results are based on a small dataset and may not be typical.
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Posted 27 May 2012 - 01:25 AM

Deiter is almost like the "Vanilmirth" of the Homunculus S.

Almost the most common with Sera following pretty close behind and Deiter gets overall the best stat growths.

Beyeri seems like the "Lif" of the bunch. No one wants him except for the looks.

Edited by Tetsamaru, 27 May 2012 - 01:26 AM.

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#5 Xendras13

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Posted 27 May 2012 - 03:31 AM

I see, thank you for the input, I'd assumed a Filir -> Dieter would have more of an HP gap than as if I'd used a different base. This means that I probably am gonna make a Dieter now. ^^
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Posted 29 May 2012 - 10:07 AM

Huh.... I never thought derpicorn could take the role of lif from eira.... She's so elegant!~
But for mvping Sera is pretty good because of painkiller, and for pvping, I believe Dieter is pretty good because of pyroclastic. Of course, WoE with a primary filir is taken by Eira of course. Dat affection farming, dat 189 aspd. I would assume Eleanor is good for pvp as well. Derpicorn is good at being pretty, except if you consider Eira the prettiest homunculus S.
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Posted 29 May 2012 - 06:55 PM

Huh.... I never thought derpicorn could take the role of lif from eira.... She's so elegant!~
But for mvping Sera is pretty good because of painkiller, and for pvping, I believe Dieter is pretty good because of pyroclastic. Of course, WoE with a primary filir is taken by Eira of course. Dat affection farming, dat 189 aspd. I would assume Eleanor is good for pvp as well. Derpicorn is good at being pretty, except if you consider Eira the prettiest homunculus S.


PvP = Eleanor to break faces / immobilize key players, Dieter to annoy people with volcanic ash.
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#8 Xendras13

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 05:52 PM

Lol, I'm really iffy about female homunculus sprites :p_laugh: Eleanor I kinda don't mind because she's not so... girly, in a stereotypical way, but Eira and especially Sera would make me feel awkward. I liked Beyeri at first, but his only skill I consider useful is safety wall, and I'd take Granitic Armor over that, since safety wall would be tricky to use in an MVP situation. Not that I have anything against Beyeri, just personal preference. I liked Dieter in the end, esp. because of Volcanic Ash. Combine that with Mandragora Howling, and how funny that would be! :p_love:
P.S. Btw, not meaning to offend anyone here, not choosing female sprites is, again, a matter of personal preference.
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