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[raeodor]

Curious if they stack?

Also I want to run a couple formulas by you guys about the drops with modifiers.
regular bubble gum gives 100% which would make drop chances double. So if a card drop is .02% regular bubble gum would make it .04%? so would WE bubble gum, which has 200% increased drop rate make it .06%?
Also with vip which gives 50% increased makes normal card drops .03% does the modifiers also make it .06% and .09%? or is the 50% after the modifiers?

[michaeleeli]

i originally thought it was like that too, but i was wrong. you can test % drop using iro databse, go to settings and change vip/novip or bubble gum/HE bubb

Seems like normal bubble gum only adds 50% of the base drop rate, so 0.02% ->0.03%.
During double drops where 0.02%->0.04%, normal buble gum would make it 0.04%->0.05%. Only HE bubble gum will make it 0.06%.

Dunno you can go check http://db.irowiki.org/db/settings/ and test it there

And I believe normal and HE don't stack

[zefram]

vip adds +%50 after modifiers,so its only +0.01 actually.dont know if gums stack or not thogh.

[Senkasa]

VIP Bonus and HEGums do stack, yes. But a regular bubble gum and HE bubble gum will not stack because the HE Bubble Gum will override the normal bubble gum in terms of increased drop rate.

Vip essentially adds 50% extra to the drop rate. Which makes the drop rate with VIP 50% more since an HE Gum is 200% or 2x it would be additive to 3.5 I believe. For something like a card if you took .02 times 3.5 you'd end up with a final drop rate of .07

My math could be wrong but I think that's the gist of it... or it's PROBABLY wrong, crunching number in my head hasn't exactly been a fun thing

After redoing math seems like I am wrong. I dont know how I got 3.5 but when comparing with a DB it should be 2.5 additive to get the final drop rate I believe...

Edited by Senkasa, 02 June 2012 - 02:23 PM.

[Ralis]

Regular Gum:

(Drop% * 2) + (Drop% * 0.5)

HE Gum:

(Drop% * 3) + (Drop% * 0.5)

Second part gets added for VIP.

Drops with Gum / HE Gum cap at 90%.

During a double drops event with HE Gum

((Drop% * 2) * 3) + (Drop% * 0.5)

So if you have a card at a .02% rate and use HE Gum with VIP and no drop event:

(.02 * 3) + (.02 * 0.5)

.06 + .01 = .07% chance.

[Kenichi]

ooo

[Senkasa]

Regular Gum:

(Drop% * 2) + (Drop% * 0.5)

HE Gum:

(Drop% * 3) + (Drop% * 0.5)

Second part gets added for VIP.

Drops with Gum / HE Gum cap at 90%.

During a double drops event with HE Gum

((Drop% * 2) * 3) + (Drop% * 0.5)

So if you have a card at a .02% rate and use HE Gum with VIP and no drop event:

(.02 * 3) + (.02 * 0.5)

.06 + .01 = .07% chance.

So wait... my first calculation, as rough as it was; is correct with .07 chance?

[Zander]

This might not be relevant but in my own experience regular gum works better for me ^^.. Using HE gum never give me any luck

[raeodor]

This might not be relevant but in my own experience regular gum works better for me ^^.. Using HE gum never give me any luck

Just did for me =)

[michaeleeli]

Regular Gum:

(Drop% * 2) + (Drop% * 0.5)

HE Gum:

(Drop% * 3) + (Drop% * 0.5)

Second part gets added for VIP.

Drops with Gum / HE Gum cap at 90%.

During a double drops event with HE Gum

((Drop% * 2) * 3) + (Drop% * 0.5)

So if you have a card at a .02% rate and use HE Gum with VIP and no drop event:

(.02 * 3) + (.02 * 0.5)

.06 + .01 = .07% chance.

Are you sure about this? Iro database shows otherwise, where
HE Gum + VIP with no drop event = 0.05%
Reason is because both VIP and Gums affect base drop rate, where both stacks additively. So a vip is +0.01%, and an HE gum is +0.02%, therefore giving 0.05%.

I might be all-out wrong though, because I'm assuming iro database is giving the correct math.

[raeodor]

I thought it worked like this. card % .02, HE is 200% normal bubble gum = 100%(which is also known as double) o therefore 200% would be triple taking card drop to .06% then adding vip (depending if its 50% extra of the normal .02% or .06% ) which would take up another .03% if its .06% making the total .09%. If its before then its .02%+.01%(VIP) = .03% then add HE making it also .09%.
either way, 2 rare cards just today.


edit : make that 3 =)

Edited by raeodor, 02 June 2012 - 08:59 PM.

[Ralis]

Are you sure about this? Iro database shows otherwise, where
HE Gum + VIP with no drop event = 0.05%
Reason is because both VIP and Gums affect base drop rate, where both stacks additively. So a vip is +0.01%, and an HE gum is +0.02%, therefore giving 0.05%.

I might be all-out wrong though, because I'm assuming iro database is giving the correct math.

HE Gum is 3x the rate, though. Bubble Gum is 2x... So HE Gum should be an additional +.04%.

[HEllBOY2536]

Regular Gum:

(Drop% * 2) + (Drop% * 0.5)

HE Gum:

(Drop% * 3) + (Drop% * 0.5)

Second part gets added for VIP.

Drops with Gum / HE Gum cap at 90%.

During a double drops event with HE Gum

((Drop% * 2) * 3) + (Drop% * 0.5)

So if you have a card at a .02% rate and use HE Gum with VIP and no drop event:

(.02 * 3) + (.02 * 0.5)

.06 + .01 = .07% chance.

 

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[mrricebox]

And the reason for this necro was???

[fuyukikun]

to call out thread necromancer polices