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[MasterXtrem]

3 warlord voters and 9 aggred on 18 sec aoe silence ... man this is like a troll haven lmao

Lets give wl 18 sec silence and mistic 50% max mana debuff so he still has 50% more to use all skills to kill u .

[MacMad]

the change to MS is actually a boost to none op geared rads

exactly

[linker591]

ITS NERF
CASTER NO NEED ANY NERF
ONLY WHO NEED NERF IS DRUID,SIN,WL
and im not only one who think this,go look all post what all ppl say and stop talk

rawr!!!!! umadbro?
sin doesnt need a nerf...stop qqing

druid needs a cast time on aoe stun
WL need something done about 17 sec aoe hush...kinda OP

otherwise legit nerfs are legit!! MORE POWER TO GRAVITY!

[gimek]

For those that dont have a WL and continue to QQ about the hush, by all means switch it back, I would rather have a 13sec hush with a 35 sec CD then a 18 sec hush with a 1 min CD.

To those QQing about "Male" (melee) vs casters you are talking about endgame full +30 ones, ya I have one, tested zerker i could hit 13k and 9k in foc, it wasnt as fun. You are forgetting one major thing Hell, casters can stand behind walls and out of sight tossing 2 to 3 blind aoes killing while those pesky melee have to get line of sight and pray that charge doesnt superman them halfway across the zone before they can hit you.

[linker591]

For those that dont have a WL and continue to QQ about the hush, by all means switch it back, I would rather have a 13sec hush with a 35 sec CD then a 18 sec hush with a 1 min CD.

it was OP back then its more OP now...and especially with cad/scad fix for melee....its insane...
drop range to 6-7meters change duration to 10 seconds increase success to 87 change cd to 32 seconds and stop it from stacking with the aoe bind

[gimek]

Hush and Root are still Leeroy skills and most dont rush in for the easy kills leaving most wls with 2:1 or 1:1 records in battlefields

Scad fix was useless for WL cause of the mechanics of the character and being a SS.

I think they are trying to make up for taking away the aoe fear that tremor use to be but that would mean they actually care about the game. 90% of WLs you see now never played when they had aoe fear.

[Hell07]

you crit 9k with zerker in foc on caster and you qq for caster 1500-2000 crit?
maybe is best for caster to start play naked and all male class be more happy when kill them with one crit

[Fudd]

MELEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[gimek]

I never QQed about being hit for 2k just stated that fact that those MELEE not Male have to run through all those aoes ticking ever 1 to 2 secs with just 13 to 15k hps on average and still kill the caster.

[Starbucks]

i got caster and melee i tested +30 shammy and +30 zerk on 0 def i crit with zerkie 7000~7500 on +0% rezist i crit ~4k and 0% rezist is hard to have xD and let's not talk about for ex my zerk got 3sec stun 2 sec charges and 17 sec fear my shammy got 1 sec stun >.< or now cuz it's event can have a fear ! But 1 melee u can stop more hard then a caster , cuz 1 caster can be éd hard by 1 WL or 1 Radi with hush ... melee can be semi stopped only with SW and forsaker buff or WL but not fully stoned like hush on a caster...

IMO just make defence more easy to get or make rezist more hard to get , cuz with 1 item u can have all rezist caped except 1 and if your set is 79 you have all caped for exemple...

[Temperion]

Keep QQing caster crybabies! If someone farms me nightmare m-c set and make it +30 I will log in and kill some more casters

[MasterXtrem]

For those that dont have a WL and continue to QQ about the hush, by all means switch it back, I would rather have a 13sec hush with a 35 sec CD then a 18 sec hush with a 1 min CD.

Im sorry wha?
- Terrified Scream
Success Chance 70% ~ 95% -> Success Chance 70% / 73% / 75% / 78% / 80% / 83% / 85% / 88% / 90% / 93%
Effective Radius 6m ~ 10m -> Effective Radius 8m / 8m / 9m / 9m / 10m / 10m / 11m / 11m / 12m / 12m
Max Targets 4 ~ 8 -> Max Targets 5 / 6 / 6 / 7 / 7 / 8 / 8 / 9 / 9 / 10
Duration 8 ~ 12sec -> Duration 8 / 9 / 10 / 11 / 12 / 13 / 14 / 15 / 16 / 17sec

Im 99% sure it was 1 min cd before and after

[otinane]

The problem with WL is the combo .....Root+silence+def debuff even if u +30 caster with 25k HP and cap defence u gonna die b4 durations are over in a mass battle lel.
At least comie FS which 20 secs+ is single target and aint got other aoe CC he can spam.

Atm with cad/scad fix the melee ppl dmg is really good and do what they supposed to do deal high single target dmg thats normal and ok noone should whine about this considering top killing classes in mass battles are still the usuall aoe ppl.
But for WL really the durations on these root and silence is too much if u add the def debuff is overkill...

[otinane]

i got caster and melee i tested +30 shammy and +30 zerk on 0 def i crit with zerkie 7000~7500 on +0% rezist i crit ~4k and 0% rezist is hard to have xD and let's not talk about for ex my zerk got 3sec stun 2 sec charges and 17 sec fear my shammy got 1 sec stun >.< or now cuz it's event can have a fear ! But 1 melee u can stop more hard then a caster , cuz 1 caster can be éd hard by 1 WL or 1 Radi with hush ... melee can be semi stopped only with SW and forsaker buff or WL but not fully stoned like hush on a caster...

IMO just make defence more easy to get or make rezist more hard to get , cuz with 1 item u can have all rezist caped except 1 and if your set is 79 you have all caped for exemple...

With what toon u get most kills and better k/d ratio in bgs?with what toon u grind/farm faster?

[Dess]

hmm agree with Druid and Warlord cuz of much CC, but Rad even more OP ? Not every Rad is op geared, keep that in mind ;P

they could reduce some dmg and push instead the heals so rads will miss some dps but wont loose heals,
but would make lvling even harder.
its hard / expensive to get 2 UJC for lvling as Temp and then change back to Rad later, atleast for new player
i lvled my Rad to 82 w/o being temp before - kinda hard work if u can go only 1by1

+ if going solo against Rad in pvp for sure its hard, but theres alot of CC to avoid Rads from healing

Rad is good as it is atm, but i wouldnt mind changing / removing Hush - Sleep or Hush but both is a bit too much imo

but: Moderate Party Heal should have 30m range with DNA , not 30m radius, u can heal the target anyway at 30m , but need to remove target for it everytime is a bit annoying

True, not many rads are +30. But a free playing rad can get 50% skill crit and 5K heals with not much problem, 2k heals when not criting. Now if you stay at 30M away from your targuet that means that the one hitting him its even more far so he cant hit the rad. So the same now with teams. 1 rad can heal a team outside the range of ppl hiting that team, guess wich team will win?? So yeah, as i see it 1 rad can unbalance any match if the other team has none, so i would call rads OP, even when our dmg ts not big and single target. Why you think ppl try to bring down rads firsts?? Cos they are scared of our pew pews??
And thats to no mention sleep/hush combo in wich you can completely block a caster....

Edited by Dess, 19 June 2012 - 07:59 AM.

[Starbucks]

With what toon u get most kills and better k/d ratio in bgs?with what toon u grind/farm faster?

zerk is more easy in foc (just charge stun aa and get kills) , mystic in foc depends vs who i play (i need to hope in the other team is not a sin like nipp or vinc, and even if i got heals , they dosen't help much + with charge is more easy to escape ) in union more easy to hit lowbies with aoe xDD

Farm ? xD u must be kidding ? No thanks !

Edited by Starbucks, 19 June 2012 - 08:28 AM.

[otinane]

True, not many rads are +30. But a free playing rad can get 50% skill crit and 5K heals with not much problem, 2k heals when not criting. Now if you stay at 30M away from your targuet that means that the one hitting him its even more far so he cant hit the rad. So the same now with teams. 1 rad can heal a team outside the range of ppl hiting that team, guess wich team will win?? So yeah, as i see it 1 rad can unbalance any match if the other team has none, so i would call rads OP, even when our dmg ts not big and single target. Why you think ppl try to bring down rads firsts?? Cos they are scared of our pew pews??
And thats to no mention sleep/hush combo in wich you can completely block a caster....

yes thats excactly the problem...honest way game is and how pve is nerfing heals would be very bad but in pvp the heals especially if good gear(not even talking for +30 ones just average good gear) the heals are abit much and not talking about amount of healing but range as well.
If radi can play and game is high populated talking about 10vs10 and more the team with radi is gonna be too imba or if game is low populated and enemy team not have some +30 CC class it gonna be impossible kill i mean u dmg some1 for 7-8 hits and radi comes and 2 secs he full hp ;/

Its really hard balance this class tho coz its most wanted for raids and ppl would QQ alot if sth happened to heals.

[xhasutx]

poll??leave alone Avenger class like before..or give buff that really help venger class (class based skill)..Avenger lack of buff..not nerf about skill Monster Revival..lolz..only 1 buff that really help so far "Detecting Trap".ress is useless..(if for PvP).n how come para trap got nerf to??lolz..unbelievable..

[linker591]

yes thats excactly the problem...honest way game is and how pve is nerfing heals would be very bad but in pvp the heals especially if good gear(not even talking for +30 ones just average good gear) the heals are abit much and not talking about amount of healing but range as well.
If radi can play and game is high populated talking about 10vs10 and more the team with radi is gonna be too imba or if game is low populated and enemy team not have some +30 CC class it gonna be impossible kill i mean u dmg some1 for 7-8 hits and radi comes and 2 secs he full hp ;/

Its really hard balance this class tho coz its most wanted for raids and ppl would QQ alot if sth happened to heals.

toss 1 WL into the mesh and the rad becomes useless
or a good commie who knows to just rad first
or a decent sin who doesnt mind suiciding into the rad to take him out

being a rad paints a gigantic target on your back...lol...

[blackninja]

I played raid in lvl 69 FoC and EVERYONE was always after me. Good damn thing I had mana shield on all the time lol.

[linker591]

I played raid in lvl 69 FoC and EVERYONE was always after me. Good damn thing I had mana shield on all the time lol.

ms does nothing vs sins...my first thing when i see a rad is scud + soccer kick

[blackninja]

Yeah I learned that as a prot, lucky for me there where no sins that day... although using lots of those worthless stat buffs mobs drop you can really piss off a sin.

[Sasuke21]

Keep QQing caster crybabies! If someone farms me nightmare m-c set and make it +30 I will log in and kill some more casters

why m-c ? nighmare mm is con cad, thats what i use on zerk atm and i think is best set so far

[xSweetDreamsx]

I understand rad can be a pain for all when we can actually heal but you have to look at the bigger picture (at least for hammy) there arent many rads who go to battlefields and the ones that do are well geared, others dont go because it is simply to hard when every1 is targeting you, we are silenced by wl, by SR and by commies who will all target us first, a +30 sin (or less) vs a +30 rad, rad can do nothing soon as soccer kick hits its game over, also when u got a big ugly zerk +30 coming for u 1st u also cant do much, all i rad can do is try support there team and stand far back as they can, rads not as easy as ppl think on battles.

[Sasuke21]

...., also when u got a big ugly zerk +30 coming for u ......

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