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[DylanM40]

Quick question on the leveling. Would it be a good thing to level a character as high as possible before doing a job change? What I'm trying to find is whether or not the base stats and or any of the job skills from the previous job goes with you when you change jobs.

[Drewcifer]

I dont think it matters for first job class max job lvl is 50 I always maxx my job level to get the stat bonus but as far as base level goes I wouldnt want to stay a swordman to lvl 99 or a theif to lvl 99 then try to job change to 2nd class all that would be doing is making lvling that much harder.

[DylanM40]

I dont think it matters for first job class max job lvl is 50 I always maxx my job level to get the stat bonus but as far as base level goes I wouldnt want to stay a swordman to lvl 99 or a theif to lvl 99 then try to job change to 2nd class all that would be doing is making lvling that much harder.

Ok got the job level down. Why not wouldn't that make your character that much stronger? I mean, your stats do transfer right?

[DrAzzy]

Ok got the job level down. Why not wouldn't that make your character that much stronger? I mean, your stats do transfer right?

When you change jobs, your job level goes back to 1, but your base level does not change.
Once you hit the maximum job level for your class, there is no reason not to job-change.

Additionally, as you may know, all jobs give a bonus to some stats based on job level. This bonus is lost upon changing jobs (but generally what you change into gets better bonuses within a few levels).

When you hit 99/50 as second job, you can transcend (you can also change directly to third job, but you end up severely gimped if you do that) and start over as a lvl 1/1 high novice - this time your stats ARE reset - you start with 1 in all stats and 100 points to distribute, and progress to high novice -> high second job (ex, Lord Knight instead of Knight).

[DylanM40]

When you change jobs, your job level goes back to 1, but your base level does not change.
Once you hit the maximum job level for your class, there is no reason not to job-change.

Additionally, as you may know, all jobs give a bonus to some stats based on job level. This bonus is lost upon changing jobs (but generally what you change into gets better bonuses within a few levels).

When you hit 99/50 as second job, you can transcend (you can also change directly to third job, but you end up severely gimped if you do that) and start over as a lvl 1/1 high novice - this time your stats ARE reset - you start with 1 in all stats and 100 points to distribute, and progress to high novice -> high second job (ex, Lord Knight instead of Knight).

Ok If I were to go ahead and go all the way level 99/50 with any of the base jobs I can still transcend to job 2-1 or job 2-2 I don't necessarily have to go 3 right?

[DrAzzy]

Ok If I were to go ahead and go all the way level 99/50 with any of the base jobs I can still transcend to job 2-1 or job 2-2 I don't necessarily have to go 3 right?

It goes:

Novice -> First Job (swordie, etc) -> Second job (2-1/2-2 - knight, etc) -> lvl 99/50 non-trans second job --Transcend--> lvl 1/1 high novice -> High first job -> High (aka Trans ) second job (ex, Lord Knight, etc) -> lvl 99/70 trans second job --> Third job

Once you pick your non-trans second job, when you trans, you must follow the path to the transcendent version of that class (you can't trans as a knight and then become a high wizard or something).

You cannot transcend if you are not a level 99/50 second job character. That means if you get to lvl 99/50 as a first job char (what I assume you mean by base job), you cannot transcend or advance further. Also, getting to 99/50 as a first job char is really hard (since your hp/sp is lower and you won't have access to second job skills), and confers no benefit.


At lvl 99/50 non-trans, you can change to third job instead of transcending - if you do so, you CANNOT ever transcend, and by changing to third job without transing, your char will be weak - so don't change to third job before transing.

Edited by DrAzzy, 20 June 2012 - 11:55 AM.

[Tetsamaru]

There is no reason to ever go 3rd job before Transing. Its funny to even think of that as an option. You miss out on trans skills, the hp/sp boost.

Honestly, the only "Valid" reason to go immediatly to 3rd job is just to have a character for looks and be a giant paper weight.

[DylanM40]

It goes:

Novice -> First Job (swordie, etc) -> Second job (2-1/2-2 - knight, etc) -> lvl 99/50 non-trans second job --Transcend--> lvl 1/1 high novice -> High first job -> High (aka Trans ) second job (ex, Lord Knight, etc) -> lvl 99/70 trans second job --> Third job

Once you pick your non-trans second job, when you trans, you must follow the path to the transcendent version of that class (you can't trans as a knight and then become a high wizard or something).

You cannot transcend if you are not a level 99/50 second job character. That means if you get to lvl 99/50 as a first job char (what I assume you mean by base job), you cannot transcend or advance further. Also, getting to 99/50 as a first job char is really hard (since your hp/sp is lower and you won't have access to second job skills), and confers no benefit.


At lvl 99/50 non-trans, you can change to third job instead of transcending - if you do so, you CANNOT ever transcend, and by changing to third job without transing, your char will be weak - so don't change to third job before transing.

I thought so. The option is there. Your were saying lvl 99. You can't go past lvl 99 in the base jobs?

[DrAzzy]

I thought so. The option is there. Your were saying lvl 99. You can't go past lvl 99 in the base jobs?

"base job" is not a RO term, at least not one in common usage. So when you say that, I don't know what you mean.

There's first job, second job, and trans first, trans second, and third job.

The base level cap is 99 for all except third job. When you change to third job, the base level cap is raised to 150.

(job levels, which reset when you jobchange, cap at 50 for all classes except trans second class, for which the cap is 70).

[DylanM40]

"base job" is not a RO term, at least not one in common usage. So when you say that, I don't know what you mean.

There's first job, second job, and trans first, trans second, and third job.

The base level cap is 99 for all except third job. When you change to third job, the base level cap is raised to 150.

(job levels, which reset when you jobchange, cap at 50 for all classes except trans second class, for which the cap is 70).

Sorry, reason I call it a "Base Job" is because its the foundation for all the other jobs.

[ValheruWolf]

Then technically the only base Job is Novice. First job change has 6 main jobs that split into 2 forks afterwards and then the extended classes.

You cannot go past level 99 unless you are third job... period.

1. So Novice, hit 10/10 in novice grounds.

2. go change to a job. level to job 40-50 depending on preference,

3. change to second job, hit 99/50 on your second job.

• At this point if you want to you can go third class. but you use access to a lot of skills that you would gain from transcending so recommendation is transcend. (Extended classes differ, note after)

4. High novice. You get to skip novice training grounds so you should hit job level 10 around base level 3-4 at this point you become a "High (first job class)" If you were a Mage, you will become a High Mage. You cannot become a different class, ie. High Thief. If you want to play High Thief you need to do a Thief to Rogue or Assassin to transcend. Mage > High Mage, Thief > High Thief, Swordsmand > High Swordsman. etc.

5. As a High First class you generally want to level to job level 50 to get the most skill points possible, Become second job of the one you were before So crusader becomes a Paladin, which is just another name for High Crusader. You get a few extra skills and your new max job level is 70 for "High (Second class)"

6. After job 70 base level 99 you get the option to continue onto third class. You keep your previous skills. So if you become a third class without transcending you will not gain the extra skills of your lower class when you become a third class.

• Example. Archer becomes a hunter. Hunter transcended is a Sniper that has a skill called Wind Walk, which boost movement speed and flee for the party. If you become a Sniper then become a ranger you will have this skill provided you used skill points for it. If you go from a hunter to a Ranger You will not have access to this skill as a Hunter does not get Wind Walk)

If you take a "First Class job" Such as Swordsman, Archer, Thief, Mage, Merchant, or Acolyte and raise it to 99/50 without becoming second job. The only thing you can do it become a second job, You cannot transcend as a first class. So you will change to your second job of choice and be level 99/1 and need to level your job level to level 50 before you can do the quest to become a high novice. The ONLY time you base level and skills reset is becoming a level 1/1 High novice. Otherwise you keep all your stats and skills when you become the next class.

If you wish you become a Swordsman level 99/50 as a challenge feel free, as it is possible, but for just leveling and trying to advance in the game this will hamper your progress as it becomes more difficult without the access to the stronger skills you get as a second class and you will not be able to advance without becoming a second job anyways

• Extended Classes

For transcending Most extended classes cannot transcend. They usually cap out at level 99/job level and at that point the character is fully leveled. There are some exceptions and I would suggest reading up on the jobs you are interested in on http://irowiki.org/wiki/Classes for more information.

[dudetheman]

I found this thread seeking one answer. Is there any reason to go from 1st job lvl 40 (the level you can job change) to 1st job lvl 50? I am assuming all it nets you is more skill points? I am also assuming those skill points are pointless in the long run if you trans?

Ex. I have a job lvl 40 thief. Is there any reason to level him to a job lvl 50 thief before job changing?

[DylanM40]

I found this thread seeking one answer. Is there any reason to go from 1st job lvl 40 (the level you can job change) to 1st job lvl 50? I am assuming all it nets you is more skill points? I am also assuming those skill points are pointless in the long run if you trans?

Ex. I have a job lvl 40 thief. Is there any reason to level him to a job lvl 50 thief before job changing?

I don't think it does but I do believe any Base Level skill points you do get does transfer. Then again I might be wrong on that one.

[DrAzzy]

I found this thread seeking one answer. Is there any reason to go from 1st job lvl 40 (the level you can job change) to 1st job lvl 50? I am assuming all it nets you is more skill points? I am also assuming those skill points are pointless in the long run if you trans?

Ex. I have a job lvl 40 thief. Is there any reason to level him to a job lvl 50 thief before job changing?

All it gets you is more skill points to use on thief skills.

You cannot carry them over for second job. Thief doesn't need to go past 40 (though high thief should ofc go job 50)

[dudetheman]

All it gets you is more skill points to use on thief skills.

You cannot carry them over for second job. Thief doesn't need to go past 40 (though high thief should ofc go job 50)

Awesome. Thanx for the info.

[EvilLoynis]

Awesome. Thanx for the info.

Also just wanted to add that some Second class Job Changes let you either skip certain parts to make it shorter AND/OR give better reward items at the end of the job change.

For example:
Mage>Wizard - Job 50 lets you skip an item collection part. Not to mention Job 50 should be a must for ALL Mage Jobs.
Mage>Sage - Job 50 saves you the 70k entrance fee which is good if it's your first char.

Swordsman > Knight - J50 lets u skip an item collection part
Swrd>Crusader - LOL J50 gets you 6 more White Potions ROFL


Before you start a job change be sure to check irowiki.org to see what going to Job 50 will get you or if you get to skip parts.

[DylanM40]

Also just wanted to add that some Second class Job Changes let you either skip certain parts to make it shorter AND/OR give better reward items at the end of the job change.

For example:
Mage>Wizard - Job 50 lets you skip an item collection part. Not to mention Job 50 should be a must for ALL Mage Jobs.
Mage>Sage - Job 50 saves you the 70k entrance fee which is good if it's your first char.

Swordsman > Knight - J50 lets u skip an item collection part
Swrd>Crusader - LOL J50 gets you 6 more White Potions ROFL


Before you start a job change be sure to check irowiki.org to see what going to Job 50 will get you or if you get to skip parts.

Thats some nice information to know.