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[CapetaDoMal]

Hello there!

I saw many atesains sealing their souls to have about 1,2k CON. But as far as I know, this is good if you want to craft gems, but if you want to craft Shields, Masks, Acc, Weapons, etc. those things that need SEN, CON is needed only to have a good %....right?

Based on this I'm making two artesains: 1 with Max CON to craft GEM, Alchemy and PAT, and other with MAX SEN, to craft Mask, Acc, and others stuffs....

So my question is: How much CON (around) I need to get a good % (90~100) in lvl 200 itens? I think about 600 CON, in lvl 220, so I can got around 500 SEN (I donk know if it is possible, just thinking).

Thx for your attention.

Afonso Lage.

[GrungyPhReaK]

So I have both artisan builds and here is my theory.

crafting is broken


Here is why I say this

My level 183 Artisan crafts gems and jewelry
Con all the way (not sure if i started putting sen on her yet)

I do decent gem wise with saphire gear ( I have made many 7's

When I put on the Sen gear I get decent stats for the little bit of sen


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My level 160 Artisan is a sen Arty making reinforced, Backshields and Masks

I have done this religiously keeping the sen at my level and the rest con

I get decent stats as well. Probably the same as my con Arty



Hope this helps

[CapetaDoMal]

Well, with my lvl 140 atesain, I got 200 SEN & 290 CON. I Would like to have more base SEN them CON, but I dont know if i'll have % to craft the last itens....

[PeppermintDream]

I have two 220 artisans, but didn't do much if any crafting on them until they were max level (it has been raised a few times, so I had to go back to offensive build a couple times on my oldest one, the CON arti, to max level).

I've found that it's much easier to use all offensive skills until you reach the level when you begin to craft, but I realize that not everyone wants to buy skill reset books and that it is possible to have a decent success rate at lower than level 200, but I'm not at all familiar with how successful you might be.

Sounds like Grungy is doing pretty well with his method. I wish I could offer more advice, but haven't experimented with crafting at lower levels. I'd THINK you'd be fine if you make sure your percentage of success is 80%+, but others may have had lots of successes with lower success rates. Maybe some other people will share what they've experienced. Best of luck with both of your artisans. They are a lot of fun, but make sure you have LOADS of storage space available, especially when you have both a CON and a SEN arti! I have mine on different accounts, which works out pretty well for me!

Edit: I think I'd be pretty cautious making a SEN arti with not enough CON, because CON is what gives you better success rates.

Edited by PeppermintDream, 28 June 2012 - 05:36 PM.

[GrungyPhReaK]

Very True PeppermintDream. I was also a parked at level 21 and level 100 Artisans before the "Great Big Bang"

The one thing I saw about the Sen I could somewhat agree and disagree. The "Dealer" class in general both arty and bourg have the great help from the mercenary help which as long as you have full con gear you may be able to experiment with the amount of sen for crafting.

But before a long time ago I remember reading a topic that either Leonis or another Gm responded to and said that Con played a big part in the success in crafting so if you do not have enough you could fail a lot more than succeed with the great stats.

And if that is true you may be in the future using your 100mil zulie or money out of pocket for the reset books.

[PeppermintDream]

Thanks for input again, Grungy. I'm curious how much CON/SEN people have on their SEN crafters. Mine has a fairly high amount of CON (don't remember specifics right now).

I don't have much experience with the summons. I used the Terror Knight briefly starting at about 200 and until I reset at 220. I wasn't too impressed. From what I've seen in game though, the hunters look like they're very effective. I've seen a lot of people use them in the Marsh and do really well.

Would love to hear experiences with using them at lower levels from you and from others who have used them a lot!

[ShadowF0X]

Yep Hunters ( the archer summons ) are excellent for farming characters ( lvl 50 / lvl 70 / lvl 100 ), from what info i've "acquired", summons levels obv increase as you increase the skill level, see below for more details:

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Spoiler

Merc Hunter Lvl 1:
Summons Lvl: 20
HP: 1257
AP: 53
Aspd: 100

Merc Hunter Lvl 2:
Summons Lvl: 30
HP: 1507
AP: 64
Apsd: 102

Merc Hunter Lvl 3:
Summons Lvl: 40
HP: 1507
AP: 79
Aspd: 104

Merc Hunter Lvl 4:
Summons Lvl: 50
HP: 1632
AP: 96
Aspd: 106

Merc Hunter Lvl 5:
Summons Lvl: 60
HP: 1757
AP: 113
Aspd: 108

So as you can see, Summons levels also increase as the Skill to summon them is increased, hence why if you click on summon at level 40 and your summon is maxxed it will appear with a purple name, an added bonus is if you buff them, you don't even need to do any work, I hope they Never change this...Ever!

Hunters are an indispensable asset to any Dealer / Bourg or even Arti who wants to level or Farm.

Edited by ShadowF0X, 30 June 2012 - 06:40 AM.

[CapetaDoMal]

I'm at lvl 160 with my Art and I use Terror Knight. IMO they are better then Hunters cuz they stay for longer then Hunter. I'm killing Eudy at lvl 160 with them and it last about 10~15 min, the Hunters at least 5min.

[ShadowF0X]

This is because the TK has considerably more HP than the Merc Hunter

[CapetaDoMal]

I think they got 10k+

[ShadowF0X]

I think they got 10k+

Terror Knight ( Skill Lvl 5 ):
Summon Lvl: 100
HP: 8481
AP: 1905
DEF: 6552
Aspd: 108

Edited by ShadowF0X, 30 June 2012 - 07:40 AM.

[GrungyPhReaK]

Yeah I used the Terror Knight and the other Mercenaries before using the hunters and when I did my reset on stats those were the first to go. I upped all my passive skills and than those hunters before doing any crafting skills.

I would say my outcome is having my higher level artisan in orlo killing purples with no problem. But I DO spawn a lot of hunters because they die very frequently.