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[orea]

SInce you put everything except those 2 given item I propose to sell this items to us after all the job that I pick was a stat switcher so please let me have stat reset npc. Regarding on HD refines, I propose to sell those in order to refrain breaking those precious slotted items that are super rare

[heyxsean]

No ... just no ...

[stroopwafel]

precious slotted items that are super rare will stay that way because they can break in Classic. Already have enriched on classic that will give a nudge to succeeding an upgrade but can still break, leaving you sulking in a corner like it should imo. Nothing like seeing you precious armor go poof when you try to take it from +7 -> +8 then go out and hunt for a new one plus the ore and zeny again.

I recall reading a full stat reset could come to classic, but won't be in for a while.

[Scott]

HD seems like a bad idea. There were massive controversies with entirely safe refining previously, and Heim said that it wouldn't happen on classic.

As for Stat resets, I'm all up for them, as long as they're limited to say 1 every 3 months.

[Xellie]

Upgrades are a lot more potent in pre-re, they deserve to remain rare

[Karlov]

I messed with my build (went from dagger rogue to bow rogue 60-ish str low dex) but I'm not complaining as it was my fault to begin with. Wait for trans classes and don't mess up your build.

[HitoHakoousa]

Wait for trans? Are the Classic server going to have trans?

And about the upgrades, I think the server should stay classic, how RO was in the early days. Obviously, there are some features that do not break this meaning too much and are good for players, but I still think that HD is not a good option to the server.

[TooLowForZero]

Classic will have trans.

HD is bad, go to Renewal.

+1 to stat resets, you can limit them for all I care.

[UnknownGod]

im against stat resets. it forces people to start their build from the beginning none of this make a battle blacksmith till 99 then stat switch it for perfect forging crap. Plus a lot of the est builds are super slow to level with, but are great when 90+.

So no stat resets, at best let people do the last 10 levels over again in case they put a few wrong points in here and there.

and with no stat resets, people can pay for leeches on their brewers and forgers. so low level people can make a little bit of money.

[Riakuta]

I'm not willing to say "never" on stat resets, I know the x point refund we did through the VAS was done that way because the community was so against a full reset. The problem is they are very time intensive to perform (all by hand) and frankly the GM team has tasks that more than occupy their time without adding a big time sink like that. I would much rather have an automated system do it, which the only system that exists right now is the full reset. The full reset is a relatively easy thing to implement technically, but having to for balance/community reasons is a much harder nut to crack.

Stat Resets might be a future possibility, but HD ores are a function of Renewal and as such should take no part in the Classic Server.

[Tomberry]

Oh god no, Enriched is the limit, we don't have a need to hit +10 in classic, it caps there and it should be hard as hell to get, my old guild leader spent a ridiculous amount trying to get a +9 Scalpel and still failed, thats how it should be, enriched is a good enough boost and when things don't break, the economy goes to crap.

As for stat resets, gtfo, one of the biggest things about pre-renewal was your build, don't screw it over by saying I screwed up and Im too lazy to get a 1/1 reset and pay my dues, plan your build, level with it and if you don't like it remake/reset 1/1, don't start with the renewal attitude of I'll level like this then reset to that when Im done, thats crud.

Edited by Tomberry, 20 July 2012 - 10:57 PM.

[Axeon]

Almost willing to get banned to vocalize how dumb i think your proposal is.

[Velkran]

Stats reset will make this a genuine private server.

[Morlord]

Personally, I would be against a full stat reset.

I read something about a partial stat reset every 3 months or so, where you could relocate about 25 stat points, which would be OK, I guess.
But a full stat reset should never be possible on the Classic server.

It would simply kill the value of certain builds which are hard to raise in level in the first place (i.e. Pure Forger)


And I'm glad that HD Ore's won't be added, too.
The Enriched ones are more than enough.

So many players here have such a weird view of the game and the availablility of certain items.
Rare equipment/cards/whatever are meant to be rare and not common, meaning:
It should take years for certain things to be obtained and/or to reach a high enhancement level.

[Velkran]

The Enriched ones shouldn't even be avaible.

[unpageable]

The mechanics of upgrading is different between pre-renewal and renewal, thus HD would be a bad idea on classic.

[TheSquishy]

I'm really against full stat resets too, but Oda already said it's too hard on GMs to do the manual partial resets.

I could be for a stupid long one time reset quest.
Something on the order of 'making a valk helm' annoying with it's item requirements.
Oh and minimum level of 90.

Edited by TheSquishy, 24 July 2012 - 04:19 PM.

[Aaronnn]

hd = everyone quits

[SirDouglas]

No.

[Ralis]

No.


Economy does not need to be ruined right off the bat, thanks. >_<

[Jaffer]

No HD's ever.

Stat reset would be nice - provide a free one with every major episode update (since this previously required remaking to be able to take advantage of gear, especially at Satan Morroc update). I'd be more for requiring a large zeny cost in game for stat resets otherwise (5-10m for a full reset) to help drain zeny out of the economy - as opposed to a VAS.

[Velkran]

This is part of playing Ragnarok on an official server: people must plan their builds from lv 1 to max lv, counting on future updates (if they want to play them). Stats reset will still be the worst idea ever implemented.

[click2respawn]

Edited by click2respawn, 31 July 2012 - 12:06 PM.

[loveSummer]

-1 hd refine

+1 for the ability to stat restart after a major update (SM), but only once per character.

[rodinn]

No stat reset, we all know the last patch, so plan your build for that.