11 replies to this topic

[Kalandros]

Just as Mufflers from Sohees have had adjustement, please do so for ALL the popular equipment drops.
Sohee had .06% drop for Mufflers - Argiopes have the same for boots, you rarely see boots on the market, you see plenty of +7 muffs~

come on, adjust for all, not just for one item~

Edited by Kalandros, 31 July 2012 - 08:18 PM.

[Dragonhope]

I thought this was due to less rogue bots hunting Argiopes?

[Balthi]

Sohee Muffler [1] drops were adjusted in response to chronic complaints concerning what was perceived to be unusually low drop rates.

None of these other monsters have received the same complaints, so I wouldn't expect any sort of adjustment to be made.

Also, as this is a proposition, and not a topic concerning any issue or technical aspect of the game, this thread probably is better suited to the Prop/Sugg. forum.

[Rathyl]

Part of the reason for the Muffler drop buff was also likely due to their comparison to Shoes(.15% off Munaks). These 2 items are generally more in demand because of the fact that those items can be worn by any non Novice class, generally meaning they are what get mass overupgraded and can be hard to find at times.

As for things like Boots, as you mentioned, and Manteaus, those are more of niche items, and far smaller in demand, hence why it was likely only the one gear drop adjustment. For a lot of people, 1 defense is not worth giving up the ability to put that items on half of their characters.

[Kalandros]

Sohee Muffler [1] drops were adjusted in response to chronic complaints concerning what was perceived to be unusually low drop rates.

None of these other monsters have received the same complaints, so I wouldn't expect any sort of adjustment to be made.

Also, as this is a proposition, and not a topic concerning any issue or technical aspect of the game, this thread probably is better suited to the Prop/Sugg. forum.

4 hours of argiopes, 0 boots, plenty of angelings.

I think all the basic equipment drops should have an equal drop rate ]:

Edited by Kalandros, 31 July 2012 - 08:03 AM.

[ZarethKnyght]

If you're talking about Muffler, it's equal comparison would be Shoes. Which seems to have a decent drop rate. Comparing Boots would have to compare to Manteau. Which have a lower drop chance. It's only obvious that the better/stronger something is, the rarer it should be no?

[Heimdallr]

We'll look at this for next maintenance on the 2nd. There is ALOT of gear that may or may not be considered "basic", my definition may not match your own, so I want time to do this carefully.

[jas8907]

Apparently muffler[1] is supposed to drop from disguise as well, but I have yet to be able to find one from them.

[Kalandros]

.03% off disguise .06% off sohee is the basic drop rate (sohees had an adjustment upward, its .1% now I think? Heim would know, I forget where the change was posted)

This is what I consider the "Basic gears" that erryone wants to upgrade depending on their class
Hood, Muffler, Manteau
Sandals, Shoes, Boots
Guard, Buckler, Shield

So far you rarely see Shield, Manteau and Boots, which are the ones Knights/Saders/Rogues/Sins/Smiths/Alchemists (minus the Shield for non-swordsman class) go for normally - meanwhile every other class gets a whole lot of their mufflers and shoes and guards and bucklers o;

Shield a bit more often seen than the other 2 because of botland at cornutus/thara frogs - Manteaus from Wraiths (wraith deads arent readily available - should change the Helion Revenant Map to be like Renewals ;p lots of shining plants some dead wraiths, wraiths and wind ghosts!) and Boots from Argiope those last 2 aren't as popular spots. Could change Baph jr. drop rate of Boots into Boots [1] with lower drop rate ;p or add it along with non-slotted boots to keep the rage factor.

edited the title for the "Basic" part, as adjusting [ALL] was a bit confusing since its not exactly what I want ;P

Anyway, all these gears will slowly become "hand-me-downs" once Transcending is available and we have the tougher dungeons opened up~ So it'd be nice if Knights didnt have to use muffs, shoes and bucklers until trans due to lock of manteau, shields and boots

Edited by Kalandros, 31 July 2012 - 08:21 PM.

[sadekOB]

I personally do not think drop rates should be adjusted, there is a reason the drop rates are low, and that is so not everyone is running around with the same gear. As more people gain higher levels in the server and can kill stronger monsters, you'll see these gears show up in the market more often.

If you can find a manteau, don't adjust drop rates, either wait or settle for hood [1] which you can find regularly. At least that's my take on the matter.

[Kalandros]

Well so far its just the boots, I've vended for over 2k bug legs from Argiopes and still not a single pair of boots - and unlike Sohees, its not botted much or at all.
]:

The few Wraith Dead added helps for Manteaus at least.

Edited by Kalandros, 01 August 2012 - 05:43 PM.

[FullSmile]

Well so far its just the boots, I've vended for over 2k bug legs from Argiopes and still not a single pair of boots - and unlike Sohees, its not botted much or at all.
]:

The few Wraith Dead added helps for Manteaus at least.

I've NPC'd well over 5k blue hairs from Kobolds, and have yet to see a single gladius or card.
Sometimes you have to chalk it up to bad luck.