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#26 StyxNL

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 08:20 PM

Problem with homunculus is that it's not designed for pre-trans. Implementing it so early on in the server is quite imbalanced.


The current situaton is quite imbalanced also.
According ROPD Alchemist Class is way behind, there are already weapons ingame that were not present in the Classic Episodes.
OAB+Steel arrows were not there for instance.
Homunculus is in basic also a weapon.
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#27 Hrishi

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 08:22 PM

The current situaton is quite imbalanced also.
According ROPD Alchemist Class is way behind, there are already weapons ingame that were not present in the Classic Episodes.
OAB+Steel arrows were not there for instance.
Homunculus is in basic also a weapon.


The damage a good vanilmirth can throw out in pre-trans WoE would be quite broken. Homunculus never existed in pre-trans WoE.
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#28 Dragonhope

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 08:27 PM

I don't remember trans being around when I was trying to level an Alchemist before. But I vaguely remember it was being spoken about. I was never big on Alchemists so don't trust my memory :P
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#29 StyxNL

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 08:34 PM

The damage a good vanilmirth can throw out in pre-trans WoE would be quite broken. Homunculus never existed in pre-trans WoE.


As I said some weapons as OAB never excisted either and there many other things present that shouldn't be present Pre-trans.
I pressume that Homunculus will be implemented as Demi-Human, keep in mind that it will take quite some time to lvl a good Vanilmirth.
I see the problem but the current situation is not good either. WOE end of august? That is out of the question for alchemist class in the current situation.
Only a leeched one from a good guild will be usefull by then.
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Posted 02 August 2012 - 07:17 AM

Heim, could you answer my Question regarding Chiv please? Will it stay this way forever or will the map eventually be changed to the 13.2 spawn?


Still waiting for an answer q.q
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Posted 02 August 2012 - 07:26 AM

They wouldn't adjust all maps if they want to change it to 13.2.

Wait for the geffenia adjustment, maybe there will be a good Abyknight map.(without holys)
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Posted 02 August 2012 - 07:29 AM

It was originally implemented post-trans.

I understand that but at that time we had TKMs too leech pure woe builds, its kinda hard to lvl a 9x vit/dex sword with 20 str ja? People have to make PVM builds to lvl to a WOE ready lvl but then their stats are -_-ed cause they had to lvl effectively. It should be in before woe I dont mind spending the 20 bucks or w/e it is later on if it means I can level faster now.
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Posted 02 August 2012 - 08:17 AM

I understand that but at that time we had TKMs too leech pure woe builds, its kinda hard to lvl a 9x vit/dex sword with 20 str ja? People have to make PVM builds to lvl to a WOE ready lvl but then their stats are -_-ed cause they had to lvl effectively. It should be in before woe I dont mind spending the 20 bucks or w/e it is later on if it means I can level faster now.


He is talking about homunculus, not stat resets. As far as we know, stat resets will not ever exist. There have been no posts saying that it is going to be put in at any specific time.

Edited by Hrishi, 02 August 2012 - 08:21 AM.

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Posted 02 August 2012 - 10:44 AM

Problem with homunculus is that it's not designed for pre-trans. Implementing it so early on in the server is quite imbalanced.

We have Food, ALL SKILLS UPDATED, RECALL, RENTAL, Geffenia and other s* and u think homunculus is imbalanced?

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Edited by Sagarinha, 02 August 2012 - 10:47 AM.

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Posted 02 August 2012 - 11:09 AM

Yes it's imbalanced. Going by your logic extended classes should also be available pre-trans because we have "Food, ALL SKILLS UPDATED, RECALL, RENTAL, Geffenia and other s*" already and it would be completely fine.
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Posted 02 August 2012 - 11:27 AM

Yes it's imbalanced. Going by your logic extended classes should also be available pre-trans because we have "Food, ALL SKILLS UPDATED, RECALL, RENTAL, Geffenia and other s*" already and it would be completely fine.

I wont be surprise.

Afterwall, our "classic" isnt a real classic server.
If u guys rly wanted to make something Classic, i'm sure u could do. 'cause its simple. But, real classic doesnt make much money. right? ^_^

Anw, just dont use imbalanced to explain somethin u dont want to implement.

Edited by Sagarinha, 02 August 2012 - 11:29 AM.

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Posted 02 August 2012 - 11:57 AM

  • August 2 : Treasure Ship and Clock tower, Louyang enters



Just a quick question, Has Lou been added in or was a maintenance not done for that today?
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Posted 02 August 2012 - 12:27 PM

tl;dr for all the people whining about homunculus not being in game

Chemists aren't supposed to be an easy class to level.

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Posted 02 August 2012 - 12:34 PM

Just a quick question, Has Lou been added in or was a maintenance not done for that today?

It's still August second here, and in the US where Gravity is based. The maintenence is scheduled for 5 PM PST, so Louyang should be implemented about 30-60 minutes after that.
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Posted 02 August 2012 - 02:55 PM

tl;dr for all the people whining about homunculus not being in game

Chemists aren't supposed to be an easy class to level.


It is not really about Homunculus, which came with 10.2 after trans.
As the current schedule is now. No alchemist will be lvl 99 when trans will be implemented.
Unless they are leeched and you can expect the leading groups will do that.
That could lead to the situation that only the leading groups will have Creators and AD ready or at least a majority for quite some time.

It is slightly more then just hard to level.
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Posted 02 August 2012 - 05:00 PM

It is not really about Homunculus, which came with 10.2 after trans.
As the current schedule is now. No alchemist will be lvl 99 when trans will be implemented.
Unless they are leeched and you can expect the leading groups will do that.
That could lead to the situation that only the leading groups will have Creators and AD ready or at least a majority for quite some time.

It is slightly more then just hard to level.

Not really. I can make over 2m/hour solo with no BM. Stop complaining about not having homunculus. I 99ed 2 alchemists and leveled a friends from 93-99 before they came out on Loki. Do the work or make a different character.
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Posted 02 August 2012 - 05:32 PM

Not really. I can make over 2m/hour solo with no BM. Stop complaining about not having homunculus. I 99ed 2 alchemists and leveled a friends from 93-99 before they came out on Loki. Do the work or make a different character.


Same.. cept when i 99'd as an alchemist i didn't have to deal with anolians eating my limbs, oh well i guess back to leveling off of a lvl 5x mob to 99 isn't so bad ¬_¬
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Posted 02 August 2012 - 05:57 PM

Not really. I can make over 2m/hour solo with no BM. Stop complaining about not having homunculus. I 99ed 2 alchemists and leveled a friends from 93-99 before they came out on Loki. Do the work or make a different character.


I don't complain about Homunculus.
But whatever, you have an opinion and then facts don't matter anymore.
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Posted 02 August 2012 - 07:28 PM

At the current state, orcsdun02 is not a viable map to AFK level due to Orc Lord MVP's natural spawn.
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Posted 02 August 2012 - 09:49 PM

I'm interested in when in all that updated the TaeKwon kid/Master/Soul Linker will be added (though wanting my cute Lif bad as well). Want to play a Taekwon master where most of his area/attunement based skills are actual useful.

Edited by StarDruid, 02 August 2012 - 10:27 PM.

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#46 Hrishi

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Posted 02 August 2012 - 09:50 PM

Probably along with the trans update.
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Posted 02 August 2012 - 10:00 PM

At the current state, orcsdun02 is not a viable map to AFK level due to Orc Lord MVP's natural spawn.


There are not enough alchemists present to make that work, don't even think about it.
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Posted 03 August 2012 - 02:27 AM

I don't complain about Homunculus.
But whatever, you have an opinion and then facts don't matter anymore.


You mentioned a weird word. What's this fact thing you're talking about? I thought everyone was just posting their opinions?
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#49 StyxNL

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Posted 03 August 2012 - 12:15 PM

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Posted 03 August 2012 - 12:48 PM

again, that doesn't mean much, because a guild will want 5 wizzies rather than 5 alchems. They will want 1 or 2... max.
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