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[crustman]

I wonder which one has damage output between Crazy weed lv 10 and Thorn wall lv 5.

[CeruleanGamer]

Your question seems confusing. Are you asking which stat those skills rely on? Or which one does more damage.

It's ATK. So things like Bloodied Shackle Ball and Megingjard will increase their damage. Using a high damage weapon that also bypasses defenses like Glorious Morning Star is a great weapon for it.

As for which one is stronger, Thorn Wall obviously because it does multiple hits in WoE due to targets not being knocked back when hit by it.

Edited by CeruleanGamer, 09 August 2012 - 11:21 AM.

[Kadelia]

With a +12 glorious morningstar and +12 cat ear beret, and an MVP/WoE build, Crazy Vines does maybe ~15k per hit before reductions. Its random how often a person is gonna get hit. Its pretty unreliable for damage. Thorn wall does about 400 per hit at 50 hits/second.

In woe, both are reduced 40% so they aren't that lethal.

[crustman]

sorry about the confusion, but you just answer my question.
thanks

Your question seems confusing. Are you asking which stat those skills rely on? Or which one does more damage.

It's ATK. So things like Bloodied Shackle Ball and Megingjard will increase their damage. Using a high damage weapon that also bypasses defenses like Glorious Morning Star is a great weapon for it.

As for which one is stronger, Thorn Wall obviously because it does multiple hits in WoE due to targets not being knocked back when hit by it.

[Chipotle]

Neither Acid Bomb > All d'oh!

[Tofu]

Acid bomb is pretty laughable.

Thorn wall can be deadly to classes that don't have any non interruptable fire attacks, or advanced movement skills (backslide, frontslide, snap, etc).

[Rafa07]

you can use crazy vines and ab at the same time thats gives alot of damage, but crazy vine is a expensive skill but is very usefull to remove ground skils like songs/pneuma/manhole/quagmire. thorn wall its a skill to hit-lock other players its fun to use with a elemental sword since you gonna be spammig skill on them xD

[CeruleanGamer]

I kill so many people with Thorn Wall as long as I follow it up with Acid bomb+Hell plant. Unless you play a tank class, can snap/backslide out of it, stack over 70% demi reduct, or own a Deviling, the damage is just pretty hard to outpot.

Edited by CeruleanGamer, 09 August 2012 - 01:00 PM.

[kiefer]

Crazy vines, hell plant and thorn wall are still earth element right?

[Tofu]

Hell plant is forced neutral

[Kadelia]

I thorn wall people then acid bomb them or hell plant them while they are tanking thorn wall. That's pretty much how gene kills w/o godlies. Crazy vines isn't even on the table for killing people.