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#1 Metaleux

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Posted 04 October 2010 - 11:24 PM

Ok i know they must be good money income as it is, but with the recent changes made to stuns success rate and duration it is impossible to beat even the weakest player if he has some (may be exagerated, but not much).

And I don't think they would be forbidden from the COTT if they were fine right ?

What I propose is making them like the red potions, meaning insant heal and very fast cooldown (not shared).

IMO they would still be very usefull for the ones who use them, but obviously they could no longer take on a group of 50 people like it is the case at the moment, which does not seem normal to me.
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Posted 05 October 2010 - 05:30 AM

Agreed. Plus one if you also agree that sometimes the faction that has the most jelly bean users win ..
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Posted 05 October 2010 - 07:49 AM

what will happen to the ego of those users then :p_devil:
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Posted 05 October 2010 - 10:00 AM

Like who? *winks* lol
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Posted 05 October 2010 - 09:41 PM

what will happen to the ego of those users then :p_devil:


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Posted 05 October 2010 - 10:12 PM

Maybe like 5 jellies maximum in one round then a 1 second cooldown will appear then thats the only time you can spam another 5 more.. Like Meta said, so 1 person cant tank tons of ppl.

Edited by Soda, 05 October 2010 - 10:12 PM.

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Posted 07 October 2010 - 10:11 AM

what will happen to the ego of those users then :angry:


haha they will all be good boys. but i doubt they'd change it.

Like who? *winks* lol


haha "giggles". remember how fast they responded to my jellies thread. one of them kept making a post on the thread as response n kept deleting and reposting since everyone flamed lmao

Edited by tENLAVUU, 07 October 2010 - 10:18 AM.

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Posted 07 October 2010 - 03:29 PM

item mall will never have cooldown because we pay for it :angry:
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Posted 07 October 2010 - 03:50 PM

item mall will never have cooldown because we pay for it :angry:


Most ridiculous logic I've ever heard.



You can't buy as many item mall passives and stack them because you pay for it, you can't buy as many item mall buffs and use them at once because you pay for it, you can't put as many venarunes per refine attempt because you pay for it.


Just because you pay for it doesn't mean you should be able to use an unlimited amount of jellybeans at once.
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Posted 07 October 2010 - 03:51 PM

QQthread
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Posted 07 October 2010 - 04:13 PM

consume is not same concept anyway they will stand at 0 cooldown cause they made vault of money with jellybeam and if they put a cooldown he gonna start lose customer is all about money
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Posted 07 October 2010 - 04:38 PM

Quit making these kinds of QQs about jellies anymore ...

Its a waste of time , seriously , They will never do anything that decreases their income .
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Posted 07 October 2010 - 04:56 PM

They could always decrease the cost and the amount healed. They will still make money while making these pots less overpowered at the same time.

Edited by Phish, 07 October 2010 - 04:58 PM.

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Posted 07 October 2010 - 05:42 PM

They could always decrease the cost and the amount healed. They will still make money while making these pots less overpowered at the same time.


Wow i see no doubts on that , developers should make that happen ! Posted Image
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Posted 08 October 2010 - 12:49 AM

consume is not same concept anyway they will stand at 0 cooldown cause they made vault of money with jellybeam and if they put a cooldown he gonna start lose customer is all about money


Who knows, maybe one morning they will wake up with some common sense and do it, just like they "fixed" the pluto problem.

About the QQ, it's just a proposition, I use pots myself at times and I don't mind being OP, it's just what I think would be better really.
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Posted 10 October 2010 - 10:08 AM

If you think they're making loads of money off Jellies, you're wrong. Whether you accept it or not, Rose Online is a business and there are bills to be paid. Office space in Marina del Rey isn't cheap :angry:

They make a lot more money on other items, trust that. I don't think they'd lose a dime. The people that use IM don't use it for just jellies, there are many users who don't use IM. If the jellies had a cool down, a bunch of you would still buy them... And if you stopped buying jellies you would still be buying other items from IM. The IM was thriving long before Jellies ever came to be... For years in fact :(

Insta-pots are a stupid idea. Idk why people spend their money on them but that's on you, not me. i don't pot at all in UW and it works out just fine.
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Posted 11 October 2010 - 12:52 AM

If you think they're making loads of money off Jellies, you're wrong. Whether you accept it or not, Rose Online is a business and there are bills to be paid. Office space in Marina del Rey isn't cheap :lol:

They make a lot more money on other items, trust that. I don't think they'd lose a dime. The people that use IM don't use it for just jellies, there are many users who don't use IM. If the jellies had a cool down, a bunch of you would still buy them... And if you stopped buying jellies you would still be buying other items from IM. The IM was thriving long before Jellies ever came to be... For years in fact :lol:

Insta-pots are a stupid idea. Idk why people spend their money on them but that's on you, not me. i don't pot at all in UW and it works out just fine.


It's not about IM, I know ppl buy other items then jellys but like u said, Insta-pots are a stupid idea, so why not change it to be less stupid :(
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Posted 11 October 2010 - 06:35 AM

At least the use of pots keeps some of the wars interesting. If it were not for some of the players potting and using blessings during the really lopsided wars we would have nothing to do at all. Actually, without them I would bet the wars would not go (unless forced of course). I use pots when I am trying to keep my party memebers healed, if it will make a difference like attacking the side crystal. If those who use pots want to waste their money on pots and blessings it is theirs to waste. If you can't take them down by yourself go in a pack. Just don't wander out alone in UW unless you are strong enough or match them usting pots and blessings.

The suggestions to make cool down longer, less effect, whatever, have been made so many times. Until they change UW people will pot, spawn kill, spam skill glitch you, kill a-_-, afk, Trose people, etc. We complain, give suggestions, etc but until the Developers are ready or have time to work on UW they are what they are.
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Posted 11 October 2010 - 11:03 AM

What about when the team with the advantage (more players) also has all (or simply more) of the potters? Think about wars outside of UW too....

Edited by BrownBear, 11 October 2010 - 02:52 PM.

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Posted 11 October 2010 - 01:01 PM

UW went on just fine without insta-pots.. We used to UW all the time years ago long before jelly's.
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Posted 11 October 2010 - 01:48 PM

What about when the team with the advantage (more players) also has all (or simply more) the potters? Think about wars outside of UW too....


Yeah some people will use pots (and auras) even when they are on the side with the advantage.
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Posted 25 October 2010 - 03:21 PM

Lets bring this up again.
Give a fkin timer to jelly use, for uw pots i gues its fine let ppl waste those to get 1 point back but this use of jellys getting out of its league, Ppl are unkillable, u cant do <_< cause its so fkin unbalanced and noone cares to join the losing side accept for a few ppl who are trying hard to get even a point.
Stop thinking about ur income for a second here and go look how it infects the game, currently now it ruined all the fun of a union war cause ppl cant stand to get killed while they already playing on a side which easaly wins. It ruined war!
Plus it will stop jelly potting pkers 2 when they are actualy can be killed!
Do something about this and bring back the experience of gameplay!

Flame me if u must but this is how i think about it. But using them to be immortal is just weak in my opinion.
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#23 Phish

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Posted 25 October 2010 - 04:00 PM

Lets bring this up again.
Give a fkin timer to jelly use, for uw pots i gues its fine let ppl waste those to get 1 point back but this use of jellys getting out of its league, Ppl are unkillable, u cant do <_< cause its so fkin unbalanced and noone cares to join the losing side accept for a few ppl who are trying hard to get even a point.
Stop thinking about ur income for a second here and go look how it infects the game, currently now it ruined all the fun of a union war cause ppl cant stand to get killed while they already playing on a side which easaly wins. It ruined war!
Plus it will stop jelly potting pkers 2 when they are actualy can be killed!
Do something about this and bring back the experience of gameplay!

Flame me if u must but this is how i think about it. But using them to be immortal is just weak in my opinion.



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Alot of people aren't even using jellybeans.... A cooldown would only make a difference if it actually works.

Edited by Phish, 25 October 2010 - 04:02 PM.

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Posted 25 October 2010 - 05:57 PM

honestly I have noticed a lot of people using the jellies and the arua's on opposing sides where they ALREADY have the advantage and this is added just to be OP. Which i know is annoying for many. Over the weekend I did 3 Uw's in the same day and a few of them were at odd times so there were pretty few numbers.. this seems to be the case for most of the uw's i attend unfortunately lol :/

But I get in a 1 v 1 or 2 v 1 situation and the person I'm spamming skills on isn't dead after 50k damage has been dealt. So I can kinda understand what some people are saying. To the point where my only option is to run or be killed because unlike most people, I do not pot in UW - never have. Not really my style. But if I'm dealing high damage hits constantly for 1 or 2 minutes (by that time I've prolly got 30+ skills in if not more) and the guy isn't dead what do you do lol? It kinda defeats the purpose of UW...

Because with the IM the sky is the limit so however many people can get a hand on daddy's credit card dictates who fairs best in IM. I supposed I am somewhat biased because I am from the Non-IM, P2P days.. Where everyone was on a much more level playing field. Now a lot of aspects in the game are who will buy the most zulie or IM, or both. I guess I'm just senile.
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