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#701 Usurper

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Posted 09 August 2017 - 09:20 AM

When equipping a +15 C.Mace, does the element still matter? because CC element depends on your equipped cannon ball and AB is fixed neutral, so I guess any element is okay?


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Posted 09 August 2017 - 10:09 AM

Cannonball element takes priority over weapon element. It would only affect the damage when you are using Neutral ones.
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Posted 09 August 2017 - 10:38 AM

So the crimson mace is fhe best weap for gene at +15?
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Posted 09 August 2017 - 10:40 AM

surpassed by kvm on the aplicable scenarios, some 2h weapons like HF, or Robot Arm if using Megingjards. Other than that, has the most damage.


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Posted 09 August 2017 - 10:59 AM

I see. Seems like is best to go with neutral crimson mace otherwise might end up with wrong element if using neutral cannon balls.

Edited by MoyuZ777, 09 August 2017 - 11:00 AM.

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Posted 09 August 2017 - 11:02 AM

Well we only have Holy. Shadow and Ghost elemental Cannon Balls, so if you're up against an Earth property monster I guess a Fire C. Mace would be better since you don't have to use Converters and just equip the Neutral Cannon Ball.


Edited by Usurper, 09 August 2017 - 11:05 AM.

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Posted 09 August 2017 - 11:13 AM

Yes, against earth it will be beneficial but it may cause issues for all around use as you cannot endow a weapon with neutral property.
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Posted 10 August 2017 - 04:56 AM

I am not really sure what am I missing but the +15 C. Mace Neutral uncarded using neutral cannon balls is hitting less than my +9 erde ea9 x2 AS. About 5-7k difference in damage. Even though the mace is uncarded I was expecting more dmg than the erde.

So my dilemma now is, being such a high ticket weap, but want to use for general pvm, Should I card it with AS cards? Or is there something better out there?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated
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Posted 10 August 2017 - 05:09 AM

Mine's still uncarded, waiting for white knight card T_T Doing just fine with a thana hammer still.

 

Your erde has EA19 lol, Dont expect it to do less dmg than a clean crimson.

 

For PVM, I hope you 1-2 shot almost all the mobs, and for those that you can't, they are probably boss flagged, which AK yields a much better damage.


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Posted 10 August 2017 - 05:20 AM

You saw it on ropd? Lol just curious.

Anyway, I might sell it and just get like a +13-14 thana hammer instead or hurricane fury, or something else. I am still leveling, hitting big bells for about 30k is super nice and fast leveling.

Instances are a breeze too(at least ogh and hazy) If I get a hurricane fury my damage should be better. Still don't have menblatt, so I am pretty excited about getting that too.
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Posted 10 August 2017 - 05:35 AM

No lol, you just said it in the post above. Given the price of a +13 thana, you're better off getting a +15 crimson mace.

 

Hurricane Fury has pretty limited use, unless you have someone to tank for you most of the time.

 

Time to move on, farm better instances like clab


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Posted 10 August 2017 - 05:50 AM

Clab? Man I have to get up to speed. I was away for a few months and there is soooo much new stuff lol
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Posted 10 August 2017 - 06:45 AM

Central Lab has been here for more than a year now  :hmm:


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Posted 10 August 2017 - 08:32 AM

Wow, I guess I was away for a whole year then. Life was just busy. Going to start exploring new instances.

I got the mace already. It's uncarded at the moment.
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Posted 27 November 2017 - 02:45 PM

Yes, against earth it will be beneficial but it may cause issues for all around use as you cannot endow a weapon with neutral property.


yes I'm thinking of this before if i cant use neutral converters(if the server has it) so basically i can use an element to counter the negative effect for example im fighting fire monsters and water monsters in TI and i have equip fire crimson(say it is my only weapon at +15) so i use earth converters will it do 100% damage on all the said monsters element? or depending on monsters element level?
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Posted 07 December 2017 - 10:53 AM

Umm what is the best weapon among these three alternatives for Cart Cannon?

 

1. +15 Crimson Mace(2 x Archer Skeleton Cards)

2. +15 Erde(2 x Archer Skeleton Cards + EA 10)
3. +9 Twin Edge of Naght Sieger(3 x Archer Skeleton Cards)

 

I use a +15 Crimson Mace with 2 x AK cards against bosses and MVPs, it works nicely but is somehow weak against normal mobs. So I am thinking about buying a weapon specifically designed for clearing normal mobs, will switch weapon when bosses/MVPs show up.


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Posted 07 December 2017 - 10:59 AM

If you can acquire +12-14 Robot's Arm with 2 AK cards. that's better for all around mobs/mvps. dealing 200k cc with Pyroclastic+omw is decent with this.


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Posted 07 December 2017 - 09:20 PM

Umm what is the best weapon among these three alternatives for Cart Cannon?

 

1. +15 Crimson Mace(2 x Archer Skeleton Cards)

2. +15 Erde(2 x Archer Skeleton Cards + EA 10)
3. +9 Twin Edge of Naght Sieger(3 x Archer Skeleton Cards)

 

I use a +15 Crimson Mace with 2 x AK cards against bosses and MVPs, it works nicely but is somehow weak against normal mobs. So I am thinking about buying a weapon specifically designed for clearing normal mobs, will switch weapon when bosses/MVPs show up.

 

What mobs are you suffering with? Personally I use 2AK crimson for almost everything and Glorious for demihumans. 

The only time I switch and have a specialized weapon is for Seyrens in ET.


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Posted 08 December 2017 - 11:11 AM

What mobs are you suffering with? Personally I use 2AK crimson for almost everything and Glorious for demihumans. 

The only time I switch and have a specialized weapon is for Seyrens in ET.

 

Well I cant say I am suffering against the mobs, I can kill them just it seems to take me more CCs than the other Genes I know of. My gears currently are:

 

+7 Cylinder Hairband(clean)

+9 Medical Scrub(clean)

+15 Double Liberation Crimson Mace Holy

+12 Cranial Immune Shield

+9 Fallen Angel Wing of Shoooter

+9 Temporal DEX Boots(slotted and clean)

2 x Sapphire Wrist of Mad Berserker

 

My Gene is at lv.151 and the stats are: STR 100, VIT 80, INT 100, DEX 114. I just got Tengu Set a day ago but it seems my STR aint good enough to capitalize the benefit of Tengu Set yet. Do you think my DPS will get better once my STR and DEX are 120? And how do you think I can improve the gears above?

 


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Posted 08 December 2017 - 11:58 AM

If you intend to use Tengu Set to level, you're better off prioritizing 120 STR over DEX (and even INT!), and using STR boots over DEX ones.


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Posted 08 December 2017 - 12:30 PM

Yeah I noticed some Genes are wearing Temporal STR boots instead of Temporal Dex Boots, so I wonder which one is better for Cart Cannon, or is there a break-even point.


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Posted 08 December 2017 - 12:34 PM

For CC, STR boots is better even with Mob Scarf. For AB DEX Boots >>>>> STR Boots.


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Posted 08 December 2017 - 12:36 PM

I see. So Temporal STR Boots is the best for CC damage? Is EA4 or FS7 better as enchant?


Edited by LordYggdrasill, 08 December 2017 - 12:40 PM.

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Posted 10 December 2017 - 08:54 AM

I've read through the thread and I need a little help. I am making a mvp weapon but am torn between a neutral and holy crimson mace. I do not play a lot due to work and other things  so it would just be for OGH, some ET, and whatever else i can do in the time I have. I am also not very rich so i can't make two weapons yet. I am leaning towards a neutral since i can just use holy cannonballs. thoughts? Right now i just use a thanatos hammer. 


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Posted 10 December 2017 - 09:19 AM

 

go with neutral


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