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[Joaco]

Well I currently have 2 150 suras and 1 at 101, I use the first two for doing ET runs, Bapho runs and MvPing. They have the same build, but I'm going to reset one to GoH for WoE and use the other two for ET and MvP.
The build they have is:
Str 110
Agi 3
Vit 93
Int 102
Dex 80
Luk 35

Skills: Gfist 5 of course, GT Revit 5, GT Convert 5, RB 5 and Earthshacker 5, CC 5 and well, the rest all sura needs

Equip:
Costume Cake Hat

+12 Turkey with Carat card
BFG with Incubus
Pirate Dagger
Brynhild
+12 Carga with 2 AK cards
+7 Valky Shield with Thara Frog card/+4 Valkyrja's Shield with Alice card
+9 Nidhoggur's Shadow Garb
Variant Shoes
D.Ring with Phen
D.Ring uncarded

Pet: Incubus

I hit a little less than 2m with lex of course and all the buffs and foods, but no Gypsy Kiss nor Battle Chant. (this was without the pet nor the costume)
I just want to know how can improve those stats to hit harder, I know I wasted 2 points on Int and those 3 points on Agi lol.
I was thinking on put some more Str, 120, but.. I don't know if it's that much damage, probably it'd be better if I use a Meg, but can't afford one D:! So, not sure about STR.. 120 str/int, 80 dex and rest luk should be the best for better damage but, damn low HP and the hardest MvP's would rape my ass so bad lol.
Or maybe 110 str/int, 80 dex, 60 vit/luk sounds good.
I'm going to reset stats anyway, but I want to know what are the perfect stats a GFist Sura.

Thanks.

Edited by Joaco, 18 March 2013 - 02:55 PM.

[RoyalHeritage]

MVP built doesnt need agi or Dex, trim it down to 40 just cause it adds attack with every 3 points the rest should be luk since luk takes 2 points intially and +attack every 5 points =).

Str/vit/int are your major friends.

[Joaco]

Well yeah, I know that build doesn't need agi but, it was the only stat I could put lol But 40 dex? That's damn low, the cast time sux so bad. What stats will you put for a full gfist sura? I mean with exact numbers. Str 100? 110? or 120? and so on.

[kiefer]

You don't need to cast g-fist that fast to get the MVP, just use earthshaker+strawberry before you fist the MVP so you get loot priority. This way you can use the excess stats to add more on str int or luck

[Baturiano]

drop dex and focus on str in and vit, make sure vit is 95 at the minimum

[Joaco]

Hmm, the thing is, I do ET runs and the way we kill valky and ifrit is leaving them at entrance, lex and GFist, no tanks, just me g.fisting them so I gotta cast it as fast as I can so they don't rape me. I know sacrament/secrament reduces a lot of the cast time, when it's lvl 5 but idk.. 40 dex seems to be crap lol. anyways, I was thinking something like this then: STR 110, INT 110, VIT 95, DEX 41, LUK 56. What do you guys think? Or tell me your builds and I'll try to make another one based on that.

[Baturiano]

Fire armor doesnt allow you to tank him long enough to fist?

Those stats look good

Edited by Baturiano, 22 December 2012 - 01:46 AM.

[RoyalHeritage]

Gfist is fixed cast time , the 40 dex is just to bring your attack portion up, other than that it has no further purpose, and 56 Luk is too much( even over here luk is too increase your attack) bring it down to 30 and get the vit's up.

Also Ifrit is super easy( it does EQ when it hp reaches 2.7mil at 15sec interval, at that point just need the AB to be out of screen while the bomber bombs and gets ress'd, takes hardly a min to get it down), just saying no offence and valk you can clear it in 7sec's if the bomber AB n Tanker are good.

[Baturiano]

also pain killer is a blessing literally like an MS status with no skill penalty

[Joaco]

Lol. Well we don't use bombers in our ET's. And we rape Ifrit easily, the problem is with Valkyrie when I don't have Brynhild I hit 1,4m to her, so when I gotta hit the 3rd hit she's in fury state, the sorc gotta dispell her and then lex, but yesterday she hit me 18k ea. normal attack x.x
When I have Brynhild it's super easy because she dies of two G.Fists and no fury state
And yeah, painkiller is great, I'm currently leveling my sera to get it as soon as I can. About the stats hmm, I lose 10 points of ATK if I drop that LUK to 30. And just to let you know you're right, LUK increases more ATK than DEX 'cause from 40 to 80 I just get 9 of ATK D:!
I could go STR and INT 110, DEX 40, LUK 40, VIT 100 and I have some more stats to put.. Or STR and INT 110, DEX 40, LUK 34, VIT 105. I preffer the other one since 105 of vit is just 1k more of HP, also I get more ATK from LUK.

[RoyalHeritage]

i always prefer HP over ~+-5 attack, with a Bryn i can push it up to 50k

[Joaco]

Well, that's a good idea for tanking with ms or when you're soloing and you gotta tank the mvp after you gfisted the mvp. But I don't really solo atm, just ms tank at ET's lol. Another build I just made: STR 120 INT 110 VIT 84 DEX 40 LUK 30. and 8 points left. With this build if I get a meg (I gotta stop dreaming about this D:!) I won't have to reset again lol. But yeah, 10 more STR is a good amount of ATK, some people may think 120 is a waste but I'm not sure about that. Does it really worth to max STR if I don't own/have access to a meg?
Edit: or maybe put 120 INT instead...

Edited by Joaco, 25 December 2012 - 02:52 PM.

[RoyalHeritage]

that will allow you to attend more higher gfist damage, but then u'll be having quite a low hp, if you were hitting like 30k with 100 vit, u'll be losing like 6k hp nearly for just +10 attack bonus, that's really up to you though whether you want to give in or no

[kissme13]

for woe, is turkey or ceb better?

[RoyalHeritage]

if its +12, CEB will do more damage on GOH while Turkey will do more damage on Gfist. Also CEB adds to 16% more physical defense.

[Viri]

Maestro turkey most likely does more damage on GOH if you're current hp is the same to compare(15k/max for example)

[RoyalHeritage]

nah i tested it, +12CEB does more compared to the +12 Turkey on GOH both on full health.

[Viri]

Yes both on full health it would but if you did them both at say 35k hp or something the turkey would win out.

[Joaco]

Sorry but this thread is not about WoE nor GoH build. It's about MvPing with a Guillotine Fist build lol. And I don't think I have to change my gear (the only things I could change are the refinement of the Nid and a better shield, and a card on that D.Ring maybe lol)

[kissme13]

Just wondering if it's okay to use GoH build for mvp

Edited by kissme13, 27 December 2012 - 11:19 PM.

[kiefer]

Why not? It's almost an identical build.

Edited by kiefer, 27 December 2012 - 11:35 PM.

[Joaco]

Yeah, I think it's possible, but no big damage and you gotta waste a lot of sp items and constantly zening. Never tested it but it could work.
But focus on the main topic please, if you want to know something that it isn't about this thread, just create a new one please, like I did.

[kissme13]

Sorry.

[Healingslave]

hmm dont items that encourage other items to drop screw with the mvp drop tables ? well thats what i was told .

[kissme13]

nid garb or HBP or.. will be a better choice? Thanks!