86 replies to this topic

[Aujo]

man.... this is so not fair... we got weaker aoe for killing pvm and our mvp status is gone... so whats a sura for lol =/ *grumbles* haha

[kasshin]

PVP / WoE, and tanking.

But yeah, if you can one shot or do more than half the MVP's HP, you should still get MVP.

[Joaco]

Okay. so I guess it doesn't worth it to max str without megs. So what do you guys think of this one:
Str 110
Int 110
Vit 100
Dex 40
Luk 48

or

Str 110
Int 110
Vit 90
Dex 40
Luk 64

If I ever get megs I would be able to afford a reset lol! So it's okay with resetting again later if megs are in my hands *-*

Give me feedback please

[nixophilic88]

the only suggestion I would like to make is, replace your turkey with LOTD helm. At +12 it will definitely give you better gfist damage than turkey

[Joaco]

Wasn't it bugged? Or it's only bugged when Acid Bombing? Cause I heard that..
What do you think about those stats I posted on the last page?

[nixophilic88]

Would go with your second build but will sacrifice a little luk for 95 vit. Btw, I thought the bug was rectified?

[Joaco]

I know it's without equip and tested on the calculator that doesn't work well but here's the difference between 90 vit 64 luk and 95 vit 56 luk


HP 27485
HIT 393
ATK 184

HP 28190
HIT 390
ATK 181

I don't think it worths those 1-2k more HP, I'm pretty sure I'll go for the first one, but thanks for telling me your thoughts!
About the hat, well I don't really know. I'll make a thread and ask for it. But I was told that for more G.Fist damage it's SP>ATK.

[nixophilic88]

The 95 vit is about stun immunity. At, job 50 you get +5 vit bonus. So, your vit becomes 95+5=100 giving you stun immunity. You'll see most of the veterans go for 95 vit for the same reason.

For LOTD helm, if it is working perfectly, it beats turkey.

[Joaco]

Are you sure about the headgear? Cause the LOTD helm uses both, upper and mid. LOTD helm vs +12 Turkey (carat) + BFG (incubus).17% more damage agaisnt boss at +10 vs +12% MaxHP/SP, +2 STR, +300 MaxSP. I think the combo beats the LOTD helm. Unless the hat is +12 and with a Seyren card on it. Then I don't know which hat should beat which.
About the stats, if the only good thing about vit 100 is having stun immunity I think I'll pass since mvp's dont stun me cause I just hit and run or die (in the case of valky). I was thinking on reducing more vit, and 4 builds came to my mind. 1 with more luk, other with more int, other with more str and the last one with highest str and int.
Just base stats:

str 110
int 110
vit 70
dex 40
luk 85

str 110
int 120
vit 70
dex 40
luk 54

str 120
int 110
vit 70
dex 40
luk 54

str 120
int 120
vit 65
dex 40
luk 1


I'm only doing ET runs, but if I camp or mvp outside the instance I'd hit and wing, in case it stuns, if I can't 1 shot the mvp.

Edited by Joaco, 27 April 2013 - 08:00 AM.

[nixophilic88]

Are you sure about the headgear? Cause the LOTD helm uses both, upper and mid. LOTD helm vs +12 Turkey (carat) + BFG (incubus).17% more damage agaisnt boss at +10 vs +12% MaxHP/SP, +2 STR, +300 MaxSP. I think the combo beats the LOTD helm. Unless the hat is +12 and with a Seyren card on it. Then I don't know which hat should beat which.
About the stats, if the only good thing about vit 100 is having stun immunity I think I'll pass since mvp's dont stun me cause I just hit and run or die (in the case of valky). I was thinking on reducing more vit, and 4 builds came to my mind. 1 with more luk, other with more int, other with more str and the last one with highest str and int.
Just base stats:

str 110
int 110
vit 70
dex 40
luk 85

str 110
int 120
vit 70
dex 40
luk 54

str 120
int 110
vit 70
dex 40
luk 54

str 120
int 120
vit 65
dex 40
luk 1


I'm only doing ET runs, but if I camp or mvp outside the instance I'd hit and wing, in case it stuns, if I can't 1 shot the mvp.

I may be wrong about this, cuz losing 10% sp is really a big deal. On top of that, there appears to be a bug present. So I would suggest to use Turkey atm.

On another note, Im not really a fan of low vit char. sacrificing luk/vit or both for damage boost may make things tricky for u. If u fail to survive until ur gfist goes off, ur added damage will be useless.

[Joaco]

I know but the cast time of G.Fist is fixed, so it can only be reduced with strings and secrament. I mean, I always have secrament when I'm killing the hard mvps during ET. So yeah, maybe less hp would be kinda paintful, but the time I spend casting the skill will be the same as now. I got killed when I hit Valky, but not while doing it, just after I hit it. Sometimes she uses AoE skills and that rapes me, yeah, but that's not a matter of hp, cause if she uses Earthquake, Thunderstorm, Holy Cross or Sonic Blow, I'll die with 65 vit and with 100 vit too, that's what I mean XD

[RoyalHeritage]

Sacrament Yes, Strings No. Turkey Yes, FEW Yes, LOTD No.