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#1 iDanii

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 12:00 PM

I think it would be nice. like a 2 weeks rental pet that loots your stuff and put them in your inventory. I would spend alot buying it. I really hate to loot stuffs. It makes my click finger hurts so much and i have to stop playing because of that :S

What do you think?

Edited by iDanii, 17 December 2012 - 12:03 PM.

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#2 DaltonTrigger

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 12:29 PM

No.
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Posted 17 December 2012 - 12:33 PM

Why?
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Posted 17 December 2012 - 12:36 PM

Every MMO I've seen with an auto-looting pet quicky makes it so that the rest of the players who don't buy it are screwed. While I have to choose between killing mobs rapidly for exp or picking up loot for cash (and by the way, manual looting is a slow process due to lag) the person with the auto-looting pet just gets to kep killing and killing without a second thought, gaining exp and money twice as fast as I can. You can already see how cheap it is when people have auto-loot scripts.
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#5 iDanii

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 12:41 PM

People that can afford BMs lvles 150% faster than you do if you dont buy. Pleople that buy rental stuffs, kafra headgears, lucky boxes, and anything in kafra shop can do some stuffs better and faster than you do if you dont buy. To have autoloot and someone not-having it is not worse than to have a rwh, well chewed, dress hat, koneko, more weight, more exp that not- having them.
You're always gonna have things harder and slower than ppl who buys kp stuffs. And you can still buy it for zeny and get even more with it.
In my opinion, If that's the reason, you're just wrong.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 12:53 PM

If the pet ignores loot priority, then no. It would only make alot of people rage at mvp loots being looted by the pet.
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Posted 17 December 2012 - 12:56 PM

If the pet ignores loot priority, then no. It would only make alot of people rage at mvp loots being looted by the pet.


it should be like to have autoloot. Autoloot loots what the monster u kill drops, not what is in the floor.
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Posted 17 December 2012 - 01:14 PM

I thought the pet works like how the in-game monsters loot, it would be broken if it's like what you said it should work. The person who does the first hit and do atleast 30% damage on a monster gets to have the right to loot it's dropped item on the first few seconds before the item becomes free for all. Auto loot conflicts the idea of loot priority in the game, it would only promote kill stealing.
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Posted 17 December 2012 - 01:31 PM

I thought the pet works like how the in-game monsters loot, it would be broken if it's like what you said it should work. The person who does the first hit and do atleast 30% damage on a monster gets to have the right to loot it's dropped item on the first few seconds before the item becomes free for all. Auto loot conflicts the idea of loot priority in the game, it would only promote kill stealing.


Autoloot respects loot priority as manual loot does. if you're who got the right of pick items first autoloot is gonna pick them, if someone else got the right, you won't autoloot them even if the other person doesn't pick them, if the other doesnt pick it and you want it you need to pick it manually. It's really simple. Its not something I made. It's a ragnarok command made by gravity.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 01:49 PM

Although it could be very convenient as you said it should, having auto-loot in-game will only make the skill greed pointless.
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Posted 17 December 2012 - 03:38 PM

I doubt it. With greed you can go to a map where people do not loot and get everything they leave there. For example Wizzards are not gonna use the autoloot because they can't carry so much, and if they kill the mob the rest of the party couldn't autoloot anyways because of loot priority. So greed is as useful as before. And dont forget that greed is not that good when you're lvling as BS, i have a blacksmith and i can't always greed because of SP

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 07:51 AM

Or instead of the pet, heroic backpack. Greed skill for all.
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Posted 18 December 2012 - 09:07 AM

I like the concept.

I dissent with Dalton - it would not force people to use it by making it too slow to level without it because they'd have to pick up loot. We already have greed from the backpacks, and I still don't find it worth my time to greed up the loots. Besides, not picking up common crap drops is not a significant handicap, I mean, I rarely grabbed crap drops, and even when I did, I rarely NPC them (that's how I got 3 account storages full, even with multiple storage alts on each one), and look how I turned out!

In fact, this could be implemented with existing facilities if we're willing to let it look ugly - just have a pet enable autocast of greed while attacking. Or enable use of greed.

However - I do not support this for a different reason. Autoloot leads to people picking up large quantities of crap loots that get sold to NPCs, creating more zeny. And the pets would likely be used on TI maps and other places where the loot npcs for a relatively large amount. Thus, autoloot is inflationary. iRO already has a serious inflation problem that needs to be addressed, and adding zeny to the economy isn't the way to do that.
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