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#1 CaNehDa

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Posted 21 June 2011 - 12:56 AM

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is that good for a cleric without having his chiv gear yet?

btw- hp is buffed too..

I'm afraid to go higher... I heard cut off for max hp is 36k, and i'm already at 34k+ when i throw on my buffset but its missing one a7...

in 1 week I hope to hit 11k+ deff...

in 1 month my goal is for 12k deff... Trying to hit absolute max deff for cleric..... (I'm unsure of what it is, but if anyone wants to set a goal for me... IE; their own max deff they hit on their cleric; I'd like to try to beat it :o

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Posted 21 June 2011 - 08:52 AM

wew... are you wearing def set??
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Posted 21 June 2011 - 09:07 AM

wew... are you wearing def set??


I'm not telling what I did to accomplish these stats :o


^_^ but.... It's nice tho... Isn't it? :P


I made 2 aurum sheilds 15 yesterday; one with 40mspeed, and one with 75 deff... :D


n thats legendary gear on... btw :D

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Posted 21 June 2011 - 09:12 AM

its not bad but i know clerics with mutch higher def and hp - you use reinf +75def sub right?

i think a mix of high hp high def INT and mspeed is good - the question is what u want to play
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Posted 21 June 2011 - 09:16 AM

legendary gear...

btw.

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I'm pretty sure you need the int for strong heals; But I havn't tested out the whole mix for buffsets... I' have yet to obtain enough zullies to piss into the char...

2.8b more zullies will be going into this char; - and I'll be trying the difference.... :D

My mspeed buff is obviously well, not buffed there :D I still gota get the mspeed passive :D Going to get the evasive passive; and throw a dodge buffset on the char as well... although I think there may be another far more expencive buffset that might be worth my while... I'm just kinda scared to invest in it because its so much zullies :o

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Posted 21 June 2011 - 09:39 AM

You should decide if you want to be a better healer or better tanker. Legendary gear makes your heals stronger, but you will lose a significant amount of survivability compared to using other more defensive gear (chivalrous glorious etc.) If you are harder to kill you can get more heals off and support your party longer.
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Posted 21 June 2011 - 09:51 AM

legendary gear...

btw.

:P

I'm pretty sure you need the int for strong heals; But I havn't tested out the whole mix for buffsets... I' have yet to obtain enough zullies to piss into the char...

2.8b more zullies will be going into this char; - and I'll be trying the difference.... :D

My mspeed buff is obviously well, not buffed there :D I still gota get the mspeed passive :angel: Going to get the evasive passive; and throw a dodge buffset on the char as well... although I think there may be another far more expencive buffset that might be worth my while... I'm just kinda scared to invest in it because its so much zullies :o

just thought id tell you that you are going to be mega guttted when you buy all of your buffset stuff and they get rid of buffsets ! gunna suck for you. so think before you spend maybe dude :D

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Posted 21 June 2011 - 09:55 AM

You should decide if you want to be a better healer or better tanker. Legendary gear makes your heals stronger, but you will lose a significant amount of survivability compared to using other more defensive gear (chivalrous glorious etc.) If you are harder to kill you can get more heals off and support your party longer.



And that's whats making me tare my hair out; because I know I'm going to be pooring billions upon billions; trying out both methods; I've worked on some calculations and this is going to cost me around 6 billion zullies...

*tares out hair*



Guess if you wanna be the best; you gota poor the zullie into it..

I know what I want for a jewlery set tho...

and with the amount of EQ I want for a buffset... I don't think there is enough slots in my inventory... Akram storage coupons what? :o
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Posted 21 June 2011 - 10:19 AM

just thought id tell you that you are going to be mega guttted when you buy all of your buffset stuff and they get rid of buffsets ! gunna suck for you. so think before you spend maybe dude :o

:P



I just wanna say; they can't remove buffsets now that it's been here for so long; and so many people use them;

Why can't they get rid of them?

Besides the obvious of 50% + of their players quiting the game; Their IM sales will dramasticly decrease... Why will their IM sells decrease you might ask? Sit there and think about it. If you can't figure it out; I'll write out the list.




But yea; I have yet to get my "main" set; I've just obtained the buffsets... but... I'll get there :D

And if they do infact remove buffsets; that would make at least 3 bill worth of zullies in EQ useless to me; that isn't useless to someone else.

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What I'm worried about most - is new gear coming out; making all my gear obsolete

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Posted 22 June 2011 - 02:14 AM

how can u get 34k+ on a cleric??? pure strength? i got mine with 0 str.. wearing full rein gears and cliffs a7... a7 on chest and weap too i get like 26-27k hp.. buffed
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Posted 23 June 2011 - 08:35 AM

My opinion on this that your def and hp seem fairly reasonable without chivs.
Are you using a magic tool or a shield?

I'm well aware that 12k+ def is defiantly possible, but I'm not sure exactly how much HP you could have with it.
Finding the correct balance has been always a pain.

I tend to find 10k def is more than enough with around 25k+ HP, you wouldn't want to lower your INT too much where you heal only say 5k HP as to 8k.

However if all that is legendary gears, it looks like a decent build, I'm not too fond of the mspd though :o
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Posted 23 June 2011 - 10:14 AM

My opinion on this that your def and hp seem fairly reasonable without chivs.
Are you using a magic tool or a shield?

+15 sheild, I got 2- one with 40mspeed; one with 75 deff... And my recent desire is to obtain a +15 sheild with 20 int substat :X (if thats possible)




I'm well aware that 12k+ def is defiantly possible, but I'm not sure exactly how much HP you could have with it.
Finding the correct balance has been always a pain.


I tend to find 10k def is more than enough with around 25k+ HP, you wouldn't want to lower your INT too much where you heal only say 5k HP as to 8k.

From my experience; obtaining your HP souly from buffset; and switching to ur main gear is best; all you really need as a cleric IMO is over 20k HP You may say 25k HP but... I dunno :X Maybe your right; I should try with more :X

The balancing thats driving me mad is trying to figure out how much INT I should have vrs how much Deff I should have - this is the question that will cost me billions upon billions, and several people attacking me at once to figure this out...



However if all that is legendary gears, it looks like a decent build, I'm not too fond of the mspd though :o


I wanted to show off a little - not brag too much; Note the Dodge isn't buffed either ;)




The main jewlery sets i'll be trying after I finish the gear;

Nature Force set x3; one PO7, one Aries stones, one T7's

Oro set(one RO ring..); already got the PO7; going to try Aries stones, and T7's

and obviously the mix of wands too...

But I dunno if I'm willing to poor that much zullies into trying these mix of sets at 900m for a unslotted full nature force set :X

I'm thinking the aries stones in an oro set or nature force set will be my main option - but who knows... I might try something else and like it more :X

Edited by CaNehDa, 23 June 2011 - 10:48 AM.

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Posted 23 June 2011 - 11:06 AM

Good stats, but good luck escaping the swarms of stuns,sleeps, and mutes with that movement speed :o
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Posted 23 June 2011 - 03:48 PM

Good stats, but good luck escaping the swarms of stuns,sleeps, and mutes with that movement speed :o

i get the mspeed bonus at end of month; I've got decent mspeed gear for my cleric; needs better mspeed gear... but... I'm trying to focus on being able to take a hit; and stand there while I get mobbed by several people... ;)
Like I said before here; I didn't bother showing off my mspeed with the mspeed buff, as without the mspeed passive... it's kinda not worth bragging about :X
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Posted 24 June 2011 - 02:52 AM

This is solely my opinion, but I much prefer a Magic Tool over a shield.
The reason is because of the additional block rate % and passives. I think an Orb of Abyss gives you a max of 39.2% block and 50% more def or so?
So a Magic Tool with 140 def will give about 210 def. (not including def/mdef passives).
This makes it possible to get the 400 base INT, but you do lose maybe 200-300 def or so, but gain like 300 mdef.

I'm not sure if you should try this option and see what works best for you.

How about trying 500 INT or so as a starting point?
During wars there's a chance of being muted anyway so INT doesn't need to be that high and you'll perhaps need to pot a few times.

From my experience, going too much def kind of makes it worse, just because of some nasty skills like a burn or poison that cuts through the HP. (especially when muted).

Defiantly a Good Luck on the progress of the build.
Looks so time consuming.
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