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#101 Phish

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Posted 24 June 2011 - 01:21 PM

The solution was actually very, very, very simple.

They should've given a free spin to every ALREADY EXISTING account, instead of giving a free spin to the new accounts that were made after the update. As Coffee said, that's not rocket science.

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I agree, but it looks like they wanted to get the new players hooked as well.

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#102 LadyPsyber

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Posted 24 June 2011 - 05:58 PM

I think I'm just saying it for my own personal satisfaction :)

No but for real now. If it would require me to dance naked on the street while wearing a pointed hat that sais 'Idiot' and singing a parody on the national anthem, just to have LadyPsyber remove herself from this forum for good? I'd kneel and beg for the opportunity.


Excuse me? You were a troll before you and your moderator title removed, you were just a little less obvious about it. All that's changed is you're now obnoxious about it. You should do a reality check geddeh...there are many people who didn't like you before due to your inability to stay impartial in your moderating/trolling...keep up your own personal attacks and uncontrollable trolling at your own peril.

As for me leaving the forums?? I was playing this game/chatting in the Rose forums LONG before you were here. My acid chatting has been going almost as long. No matter how much you like or do not like me, I work to make this game better/make the gm's/cm's and dev's accountable. That is much more than many people like you do. I don't shy away from calling it the way I see it and that WILL NEVER change. If you don't like what I have to say, do the mature thing and ignore it.

Confusing my issues with the game with your personal attacks is immature and dilutes my attempts at getting the mostly tame/sheeply attitudes of too many people to be more active/raise their low expectations. Those people accept any old thing the gm's/cm's and dev's throw at them without attempting to raise the bar in customer service/support. The more people who respond to negative changes, the bigger the chance they will be fixed or dealt with that BENEFITS the community. I *REFUSE* to sit by and accept anything less than what is possible. I do not expect perfection but I do expect many things which are often ignored or passed by in favor of the nonstop proliferation of item mall crap. The level of what the game is at vs where it could be is MUCH too low. I understand that there are limited resources however the way those resources are being deployed are quite obviously driving the game into the ground.

Many many players have left in the last little while which obviously has forced the dev's to concentrate on a whole string of desperate attempts at grabbing cash at the detriment to the game/the story line of the game. Gambling spins? Zack Pirate outfits with 50% more xp/out fits giving out extra drops and xp, im-boxes...all desperate attempts at grabbing quick cash. An example of how these are damaging the game are the item mall stores in front of storage. You can't buy a whole lot of things like stat resets because people are blasting all their money into all of the cash grab items. You can't find anyone selling item mall points, or xp medals/reroll hammers etc because all that money is going into the desperate things. You might not see this as a problem however it is a problem for people who cannot afford to directly spend money on the item mall. For years they have exchanged in game zulie with people who have the real money to spend on the item mall. They rely on others to do it so the net result is really the same thing...item mall sales occur. This is only one example of many.

The latest round of stuff has modified the game in a massive negative way for many users because it has totally changed many dynamics much too quickly. Change is expected however it needs to be slow and measured. Wild things blasted into the game makes things unstable and difficult to deal with. The net result of that is people quitting and I can tell you without any question that many many people have quit/are not actively playing...raw materials available for crafting have slowed to a FRACTION of what they were even a couple months ago. I am totally freaked out because I have *NEVER* seen it this bad....well maybe when the p2p fiasco almost folded the game.

Go ahead, keep being the silly little company boy and keep swallowing their less than reasonable content. For me and many others, it's unacceptable and I WILL NEVER sit by and let it occur without calling the responsible people out.

I demand accountability and/or better attempts at pleasing customers and if you can't understand that or handle my passion for the game, then perhaps YOU should quit the forums.
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#103 LordAlbion

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Posted 24 June 2011 - 06:37 PM

Jeez...plz make the items giftable at least...my cleric is aching for the robe I got on ANOTHER long time account (as in not created solely for the spin)....
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Posted 24 June 2011 - 06:57 PM

Excuse me? You were a troll before you and your moderator title removed, you were just a little less obvious about it. All that's changed is you're now obnoxious about it. You should do a reality check geddeh...there are many people who didn't like you before due to your inability to stay impartial in your moderating/trolling...keep up your own personal attacks and uncontrollable trolling at your own peril.

As for me leaving the forums?? I was playing this game/chatting in the Rose forums LONG before you were here. My acid chatting has been going almost as long. No matter how much you like or do not like me, I work to make this game better/make the gm's/cm's and dev's accountable. That is much more than many people like you do. I don't shy away from calling it the way I see it and that WILL NEVER change. If you don't like what I have to say, do the mature thing and ignore it.

Confusing my issues with the game with your personal attacks is immature and dilutes my attempts at getting the mostly tame/sheeply attitudes of too many people to be more active/raise their low expectations. Those people accept any old thing the gm's/cm's and dev's throw at them without attempting to raise the bar in customer service/support. The more people who respond to negative changes, the bigger the chance they will be fixed or dealt with that BENEFITS the community. I *REFUSE* to sit by and accept anything less than what is possible. I do not expect perfection but I do expect many things which are often ignored or passed by in favor of the nonstop proliferation of item mall crap. The level of what the game is at vs where it could be is MUCH too low. I understand that there are limited resources however the way those resources are being deployed are quite obviously driving the game into the ground.

Many many players have left in the last little while which obviously has forced the dev's to concentrate on a whole string of desperate attempts at grabbing cash at the detriment to the game/the story line of the game. Gambling spins? Zack Pirate outfits with 50% more xp/out fits giving out extra drops and xp, im-boxes...all desperate attempts at grabbing quick cash. An example of how these are damaging the game are the item mall stores in front of storage. You can't buy a whole lot of things like stat resets because people are blasting all their money into all of the cash grab items. You can't find anyone selling item mall points, or xp medals/reroll hammers etc because all that money is going into the desperate things. You might not see this as a problem however it is a problem for people who cannot afford to directly spend money on the item mall. For years they have exchanged in game zulie with people who have the real money to spend on the item mall. They rely on others to do it so the net result is really the same thing...item mall sales occur. This is only one example of many.

The latest round of stuff has modified the game in a massive negative way for many users because it has totally changed many dynamics much too quickly. Change is expected however it needs to be slow and measured. Wild things blasted into the game makes things unstable and difficult to deal with. The net result of that is people quitting and I can tell you without any question that many many people have quit/are not actively playing...raw materials available for crafting have slowed to a FRACTION of what they were even a couple months ago. I am totally freaked out because I have *NEVER* seen it this bad....well maybe when the p2p fiasco almost folded the game.

Go ahead, keep being the silly little company boy and keep swallowing their less than reasonable content. For me and many others, it's unacceptable and I WILL NEVER sit by and let it occur without calling the responsible people out.

I demand accountability and/or better attempts at pleasing customers and if you can't understand that or handle my passion for the game, then perhaps YOU should quit the forums.

One again, I think you hit the snail on it's head.
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#105 bluehell

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Posted 25 June 2011 - 09:38 AM

That is what I call a serious problem of narcissism. I am laughing my ass of here because you clearly think you're making a difference while alot if not most people just rather see you shut up.

Dude ladypsyber would probobly pone you as a community manager. If i had to choose between you and her, it would be her every time. Want to know why? Because she has strong feelings towards things, good suggestions to make the game better. She doesnt care about her rep, all you do is edit/delete everything that you dont like. And pin all of your topics that you think are fantastic. She at least contributes to things when she rages, you just rant on about nothing. Though i do miss the times when you and tankjr would rage on every topic with each other, i think it was always you and him, ranting on about absolutely nothing, thank god your not like that anymore. But I'd like to see some more of her thoughts and suggestions on things, they are actually very good. And i think a lot of people would rather see you just shut up.
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#106 gEddeh

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Posted 25 June 2011 - 08:04 PM

Dude ladypsyber would probobly pone you as a community manager. If i had to choose between you and her, it would be her every time. Want to know why? Because she has strong feelings towards things, good suggestions to make the game better. She doesnt care about her rep, all you do is edit/delete everything that you dont like. And pin all of your topics that you think are fantastic. She at least contributes to things when she rages, you just rant on about nothing. Though i do miss the times when you and tankjr would rage on every topic with each other, i think it was always you and him, ranting on about absolutely nothing, thank god your not like that anymore. But I'd like to see some more of her thoughts and suggestions on things, they are actually very good. And i think a lot of people would rather see you just shut up.

I find this post very funny, and I'll explain you why:

If I would've just edited and delete 'post I don't like', would you really think Zeppelin or any other Community Manager wouldn't have stopped me? Also there is only 1 topic I've pinned that was made by me, and that was the List of Proposals & Suggestions. I thought of this idea because I thought it would improve the interest of the Game Developers, and proved because Zeppelin actually posted in that thread telling he would pass on the list to the Devs. The only other topics I've pinned where DayNine's 'Complete Stat Bonus Chart, DayNine's 'Hairstyle Preview' and Rawrzz 'Official List of Quest and Guides', all 3 greatly welcomed by the community.

Next to that I do never, and I repeat never rant about anything except the behavior of the two people you mentioned. Not because of their idea's but because they can't seem to talk normally without actually insulting someone, calling them idiots or something alike. If you can find a negative post about something in which I actually ranted besides the behavior of these two people, please show me and I'll take back everything I said.

The third thing I would like to point out is that some people still think I 'troll' the forums. Let me tell you this: on a daily base my average posting count since I became a Moderator is about 3 to 4 posts a day. I cannot say I've never made a useless post during this time but it seems people are stuck in the past. I know that I was incredibly annoying before I became a Moderator and I even made a topic in which I apologized for my behavior back then (which was appreciated by alot of people).

Also I'd like to add a list thing to this case. I totally do not mind that LadyPsyber speaks out her thoughts. But she should just stop saying this game sucks, is not competitive, not interesting for anyone and completely focusing on Item Mall while I still see her selling Item Mall stuff on a daily base next to the Junon Storage. She should also stop insulting the Devs. Do you really think the Devs actually listen to her if she calls them idiots each time? I know I wouldn't.

Please stop living in the past and throw away any prejudices you've got against me. If you want to critisize me about things I do wrong, please come with examples that are not 6 months old.
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#107 LadyPsyber

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Posted 25 June 2011 - 10:32 PM

Also I'd like to add a list thing to this case. I totally do not mind that LadyPsyber speaks out her thoughts. But she should just stop saying this game sucks, is not competitive, not interesting for anyone and completely focusing on Item Mall while I still see her selling Item Mall stuff on a daily base next to the Junon Storage. She should also stop insulting the Devs. Do you really think the Devs actually listen to her if she calls them idiots each time? I know I wouldn't.


Selling WHAT item mall stuff? My SONS store hasn't bought/sold more than like 2 hair coupons in WEEKS now....and my sons store isn't the only one...every single one of the stores is missing the kind of item mall stuff that many people need to function. Why is it like this? The devs keep pounding dumb item mall collections and desperate items that destabilize the game like mass plutos and venurunes so nobody spends money on anything else. He might make a small profit off it but he enjoys providing for people much more.

Doesn't mean anything to you however there are MANY people suffering due to the lack of item mall stuff they actually NEED.
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#108 bluehell

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Posted 26 June 2011 - 05:23 AM

I find this post very funny, and I'll explain you why:

If I would've just edited and delete 'post I don't like', would you really think Zeppelin or any other Community Manager wouldn't have stopped me? Also there is only 1 topic I've pinned that was made by me, and that was the List of Proposals & Suggestions. I thought of this idea because I thought it would improve the interest of the Game Developers, and proved because Zeppelin actually posted in that thread telling he would pass on the list to the Devs. The only other topics I've pinned where DayNine's 'Complete Stat Bonus Chart, DayNine's 'Hairstyle Preview' and Rawrzz 'Official List of Quest and Guides', all 3 greatly welcomed by the community.

Next to that I do never, and I repeat never rant about anything except the behavior of the two people you mentioned. Not because of their idea's but because they can't seem to talk normally without actually insulting someone, calling them idiots or something alike. If you can find a negative post about something in which I actually ranted besides the behavior of these two people, please show me and I'll take back everything I said.

The third thing I would like to point out is that some people still think I 'troll' the forums. Let me tell you this: on a daily base my average posting count since I became a Moderator is about 3 to 4 posts a day. I cannot say I've never made a useless post during this time but it seems people are stuck in the past. I know that I was incredibly annoying before I became a Moderator and I even made a topic in which I apologized for my behavior back then (which was appreciated by alot of people).

Also I'd like to add a list thing to this case. I totally do not mind that LadyPsyber speaks out her thoughts. But she should just stop saying this game sucks, is not competitive, not interesting for anyone and completely focusing on Item Mall while I still see her selling Item Mall stuff on a daily base next to the Junon Storage. She should also stop insulting the Devs. Do you really think the Devs actually listen to her if she calls them idiots each time? I know I wouldn't.

Please stop living in the past and throw away any prejudices you've got against me. If you want to critisize me about things I do wrong, please come with examples that are not 6 months old.

I do not care what you think, what you say, because im not going to fight on with you and snoop down to your level. Take a look at my post. It has recieved 5 +1's, and 1 -1, which was from you. I think more people agree with my post, apposed to yours. gEddeh, your glory days are over, I think its time for you to give up in this fight, because right now your getting your azz kicked by ladypsyber.
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#109 gEddeh

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Posted 26 June 2011 - 05:40 AM

I do not care what you think, what you say, because im not going to fight on with you and snoop down to your level. Take a look at my post. It has recieved 5 +1's, and 1 -1, which was from you. I think more people agree with my post, apposed to yours. gEddeh, your glory days are over, I think its time for you to give up in this fight, because right now your getting your azz kicked by ladypsyber.

Excuse me? You already 'snooped down to my level' by joining this pointless conversation and by reacting on one of my posts, accusing me of things that belong to the past. Sorry to confront you with that harsh truth. Next time prepare yourself and come with good arguements if you want to play with the big boys okay? I'm not obliged to have to listen to lesser mortals like you.

Edited by gEddeh, 26 June 2011 - 01:39 PM.

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#110 Lybis

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Posted 26 June 2011 - 05:44 AM

You guys make me laugh -_- If there's no entertainment in game, I just need to check the forums :)
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#111 bluehell

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Posted 26 June 2011 - 05:56 AM

Excuse me? You already 'snooped down to my level' by joining this pointless conversation and by reacting on one of my posts, accusing me of things that belong to the past. Sorry to confront you with that harsh truth. Next time prepare yourself and come with good arguements if you want to play with the big boys okay? I'm not obliged to have to listen to lesser mortals like you.

/endflame

Coming from an older guy with the size of an mnm fighting with a 13 year old kid and woman. Dude you cant beat a woman in a fight of words, it just doesnt work, no man ever wins a fight against a woman unless its physical, your kinda trying to fight ladypsyber in her expertise.

/endflame wtf ever that is. lesser mortals? im 13 and im probobly 10x smarter and less self-centered than you.
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#112 LordAlbion

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Posted 26 June 2011 - 11:44 AM

im 13 and im probobly 10x smarter and less self-centered than you.


not hard based on what I've read by him

Edited by LordAlbion, 26 June 2011 - 11:44 AM.

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#113 gEddeh

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Posted 26 June 2011 - 12:25 PM

Let's get back on topic. We're drifting off.
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