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Posted 11 October 2010 - 03:54 AM

I guess it depends if your Vigorous set is enchanted with 30hp/2con.

Hmmmmmmm if that's the case.

What about... S2 set FOC with defense + jewelry with 30 HP/2 CON. With 15 of these you can have 600 extra HP.

I can get close to S1 set's defense with S2 FOC set enchanted with 10-10 xeons. And you know, S1 sets are harder to +, and I'm not much into being an item mall slave. So with S2 FOC I even have the extra crit % (8-9%) and SCAD. If I use S1 set when I level up, and use skill crit xeons instead of HP on those 15 slots on current jewelry pieces I only get 7.5%- can't compare to what FOC set can give. And more importantly the extra SCAD that boosts my critical damage by a quite obvious amount, especially on those with higher/capped resistance. Looks like giving up too much on damage for the survivability, no? http://forums.warppo...tyle_emoticons/default/icon_banghead.gif

I've never tried S1 sets, but I'm deciding if I should level up on my Tempest and I think I can get a S1 VL set if I want. :lol:
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Posted 11 October 2010 - 04:23 AM

Hmmmmmmm if that's the case.

What about... S2 set FOC with defense + jewelry with 30 HP/2 CON. With 15 of these you can have 600 extra HP.

I can get close to S1 set's defense with S2 FOC set enchanted with 10-10 xeons. And you know, S1 sets are harder to +, and I'm not much into being an item mall slave. So with S2 FOC I even have the extra crit % (8-9%) and SCAD. If I use S1 set when I level up, and use skill crit xeons instead of HP on those 15 slots on current jewelry pieces I only get 7.5%- can't compare to what FOC set can give. And more importantly the extra SCAD that boosts my critical damage by a quite obvious amount, especially on those with higher/capped resistance. Looks like giving up too much on damage for the survivability, no? http://forums.warppo...tyle_emoticons/default/icon_banghead.gif

I've never tried S1 sets, but I'm deciding if I should level up on my Tempest and I think I can get a S1 VL set if I want. :lol:


First, why would you level up? :lol:
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Posted 11 October 2010 - 04:25 AM

Errrrr repetitive FOC got boring with one char and I think you said it's going to be 69 bracket. :lol: :lol:
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Posted 11 October 2010 - 04:34 AM

Errrrr repetitive FOC got boring with one char and I think you said it's going to be 69 bracket. :lol: :lol:


Rumors. :(

Hmmmmmmm if that's the case.

What about... S2 set FOC with defense + jewelry with 30 HP/2 CON. With 15 of these you can have 600 extra HP.

I can get close to S1 set's defense with S2 FOC set enchanted with 10-10 xeons. And you know, S1 sets are harder to +, and I'm not much into being an item mall slave. So with S2 FOC I even have the extra crit % (8-9%) and SCAD. If I use S1 set when I level up, and use skill crit xeons instead of HP on those 15 slots on current jewelry pieces I only get 7.5%- can't compare to what FOC set can give. And more importantly the extra SCAD that boosts my critical damage by a quite obvious amount, especially on those with higher/capped resistance. Looks like giving up too much on damage for the survivability, no? http://forums.warppo...tyle_emoticons/default/icon_banghead.gif

I've never tried S1 sets, but I'm deciding if I should level up on my Tempest and I think I can get a S1 VL set if I want. :(


Main problem is that S1 VL was never meant to be a Tempest set; so unless you find by luck 4 pieces 6/6 with 30hp/2con Xeons (:lol:), you would be better off with FoC if you have a nice set.
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Posted 11 October 2010 - 04:41 AM

Never mind then. Should get my evil little elf to 65 first. My turn to stun those helpless little turans harhar. :lol:
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Posted 11 October 2010 - 04:42 AM

Never mind then. Should get my evil little elf to 65 first. My turn to stun those helpless little turans harhar. :lol:


Stunning a Turan should get you the death penalty. :x
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Posted 25 October 2010 - 02:03 AM

More lowbie questions, why is spending DNA points on elec mastery a waste? <_<
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Posted 25 October 2010 - 02:51 AM

More lowbie questions, why is spending DNA points on elec mastery a waste? <_<


who said that D;
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Posted 25 October 2010 - 03:17 AM

Hmmm someone! <_< Say if I'm to level up should I get like 10/5 lesser heal and 10 on % mastery? >.>
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Posted 25 October 2010 - 06:38 AM

>.< read the last page
i meant page 3

Edited by Famous, 25 October 2010 - 06:39 AM.

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Posted 25 October 2010 - 07:05 AM

Hmmm someone! <_< Say if I'm to level up should I get like 10/5 lesser heal and 10 on % mastery? >.>


Okay!

Swift Lesser Heal Lvl 5 is a must have. 5/25

Then your choices are:

  • Strenghtened Lesser Heal.
  • Holy Light Intensification.
  • Magic Weapon Mastery Intensification.
  • Magic Mastery(Elec) Intensification.

I would personally go with Strenghtened Lesser Heal Lvl 10 since Lesser Heal is one of the most important spells for a Tempest. 15/25


Lvl 6 could be enough yus! 11/15


I would need a veteran Tempest to correct me if I'm wrong about that one since I wasn't a Tempest for very long; Magic Mastery(Elec) only increase your skills % base damage, like the Forsaker's Master of Fire skill.

I personally went 7 points in Magic Mastery(Elec) as a Lvl 78 newbie Tempest, kept one point in case for Lvl 81 Magic Mastery(Elec) DNA Lvl 8 then went one point in Holy Light Intensification and one point in Magic Weapon Mastery Intensification.

Holy Light DNA Lvl 1 = 27
Holy Light DNA Lvl 10 = 62

I personally don't think that DNA is worth more than one point since you get almost 50% of the DNA already with a single point. >>

Magic Weapon Mastery Lvl 1 = 12
Lvl 2 = 13
Lvl 5 = 19
Lvl 6 = 31
Lvl 10 =45

Here again 1 point is pretty good since you get over 25% of the DNA with it. It's a waste until you go for at least Lvl 6 since there's a massive increase from Lvl 5 to Lvl 6.


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Swift Lesser Heal Lvl 5
Strenghtened Lesser Heal Lvl 6-10 (Squishy tempest low hp shouldn't need more than Lvl 6 I guess o.o)

Then depending on your level, max Magic Mastery(Elec) % DNA, pour the rest of the points in Magic Weapon Mastery if you can get Lvl 6 at least and Lvl 1 Holy Light at least; if not, pour the rest in Holy Light DNA. ~

I'll let Mooi correct me xD



gah max dna for lesser streng is :(
well maybe just my temp but i can heal more then i have hp with just lvl6 dna on streng lesser



My current DNAs wih my tempest:

Swift Lesser Heal - 5
Strengthened Lesser Heal - 6 (big jump in HP recovery from lvl 5 to lvl 6)
Ligthning Mastery Intensification - 7 (I have it at lvl 6 at my lvl 77, but I'll ad one point at lvl 78)
Magic Weapon mastery Intensification - 6 (lvl 5 is +19, but lvl 6 is +31)
Holy Ligth Intensification - 1 (spare point, but +27 damage per tick isn't bad)


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Posted 25 October 2010 - 08:41 PM

Hmmm so I probably remember wrongly...should have been told 10 points on lesser heal DNA is a waste <.<

But yea I'll figure it out again if I level up. I still want lesser heal DNA max. I'm a DPS+healer and will always be.
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Posted 03 November 2010 - 09:03 AM

anyway we are going to re-DNA, cause new DNAs are inserted, hope we have good thinkers on the house who would help us through... :(
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Posted 03 November 2010 - 09:53 AM

anyway we are going to re-DNA, cause new DNAs are inserted, hope we have good thinkers on the house who would help us through... :(


There's nothing to think about. :D

Extended LR and HL DNAs to a certain point depending on your playstyle then the rest in LH/maybe a point in MM and HLI.

Edited by Loyalty1, 03 November 2010 - 10:06 AM.

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Posted 03 November 2010 - 10:34 AM

fast reply. thanks sir, ma'am


Swift Lesser Heal - 5
Strengthened Lesser Heal - 6 (big jump in HP recovery from lvl 5 to lvl 6)
Ligthning Mastery Intensification - 7 (I have it at lvl 6 at my lvl 77, but I'll ad one point at lvl 78)
Magic Weapon mastery Intensification - 6 (lvl 5 is +19, but lvl 6 is +31)
Holy Ligth Intensification - 1 (spare point, but +27 damage per tick isn't bad)

i think i may follow this, Lanni's DNA
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Posted 03 November 2010 - 10:44 AM

Not viable post-dna patch.
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Posted 03 November 2010 - 12:32 PM

not viable?


is extending AoE skills means more damage output for that skills as well? is the per pulse damage going to be extended or just effect. hmmm,
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Posted 03 November 2010 - 12:44 PM

Extending the duration of the AoEs will not only make them active until the skill can be used again but, it'll basically double and even triple the damage output since the duration is increasing.
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Posted 03 November 2010 - 01:23 PM

fast reply. thanks sir, ma'am


Swift Lesser Heal - 5
Strengthened Lesser Heal - 6 (big jump in HP recovery from lvl 5 to lvl 6)
Ligthning Mastery Intensification - 7 (I have it at lvl 6 at my lvl 77, but I'll ad one point at lvl 78)
Magic Weapon mastery Intensification - 6 (lvl 5 is +19, but lvl 6 is +31)
Holy Ligth Intensification - 1 (spare point, but +27 damage per tick isn't bad)

i think i may follow this, Lanni's DNA


now i get it why this is no longer viable

Edited by Aristocrat, 03 November 2010 - 03:27 PM.

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Posted 03 November 2010 - 01:35 PM

now i get it why this is viable


It's viable now, until next week.
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Posted 04 November 2010 - 01:11 PM

baahh extent time of aoe dont know yet :s

need see how hard ST mobs are
atm everything dies in the 10 sec LR for pve ofc

for pvp ofc a 20 sec aoe slow can be :P:P:o
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Posted 04 November 2010 - 01:34 PM

baahh extent time of aoe dont know yet :s

need see how hard ST mobs are
atm everything dies in the 10 sec LR for pve ofc

for pvp ofc a 20 sec aoe slow can be :):P:o


It'll depends of the gear level mostly pve wise since some Tempys kill everything in 1 round of aoes :P
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Posted 04 November 2010 - 09:54 PM

oh dear lord...
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Posted 04 November 2010 - 11:23 PM

oh dear lord...


fuuuuuuuuuuuu

also most people can dash out of lr, so they never get hit by more than 2 or 3 tics...might go for full defense/resist gear and will be able to sruvive 2 not 1 hits from god's of requiem
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Posted 05 November 2010 - 10:50 AM

You mean most melee can and all caster except soul hunter can heal out of it.
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