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#76 Zurn

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 08:55 PM

They should stay there till they are removed by you then you just can't put things back.
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Posted 23 November 2011 - 09:06 PM

They should stay there till they are removed by you then you just can't put things back.


Thanks. So those collected "haven't" rare items could keep there until market demand with good price. :P
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Posted 24 November 2011 - 08:19 AM

i still have chars where i can use premium.. and some chars ( from same account) i cant :P

about the TRIAL .. is it needed that my account is added to warpportal ?
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Posted 24 November 2011 - 08:33 AM

From the Rose website...

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Lets see, if 600 points works out to about $6 for 30 days. At that rate, especially if people have multiple accoutns (I can see the bean counters at Gravity rubbing their hands together), it works out to more money per month for sure than back in the days of P2P Rose.

Personally, I'd rather go back to the P2P days and just let me play the game, unmolested, where I have access to EVERYTHING as it was. I could buy 6 months at time in those days, and it worked out to about $9.50/month for my account. Obviously I wouldn't be paying for all my accounts, but I can see Gravity is continuing to take things away, and then offer some things back via premium account. As my wife pointed out, with the new system of paying for content, Gravity could stand to make more money from each player potentially, than many addicted to your most famous MMO out there - no names need to be given.

I just feel like the old players seem to read nothing but more bad news as the weeks and months roll by. It's almost as if Gravity needs to ban and get rid of all the old players because they remember how it used to be and have a reference point to the fun game we remember, not the game where they keep wrecking things like the drops, or taking things away from us, like character slots, only to make us pay to get them back in new accounts. *sigh* The Carly Simon song is not true here - these are not the good ol days.

It used to be this game was such that bargain hunters like me and my wife would enjoy the game on a budget - as I mentioned $9.50/month was fair at the time to me to pay (6 months at a time). I realize gravity needs to turn a profit, they aren't a charity. But it's how they are trying to make the money, which historically has unfortinately been to degrade our gear, weapons, and trash our characters. Any old fashioned person would have been horrified that a business can be run this way, where they take your money and then the warranty on your product is to make it worse and worse, and you have to keep paying for worse service. Has the world gone mad?

I don't expect the trend to change, nor the game to get better. There is a pattern here, unless someone else steps in to run this game, I am not optimistic about the future.


Edited by CoffeeMuse, 24 November 2011 - 08:53 AM.

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Posted 24 November 2011 - 10:09 AM

Be careful how much "gloom and doom" you express...

This situation can be traced back to the beginning of "Rose Evolution"

Many features of iRose were withdrawn

Then, in the midst of this desert, an oasis was offered

How about an Item Mall?

People were asked to "vote" with no other real option

The game we used to know is being repeatedly (sorry, I don't know what other term to use) "raped"

But this is just frustration speaking...
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Posted 24 November 2011 - 11:18 AM

If I placed some stuff inside premium tab, what will happened to those item if premium account expired?



As stated, it will sit there until you remove it. But, you will not be able to place anything else in those storage slots.

speaking of this, my Premium storage stuffs isn't working. Oh noes. D:

FYI: Yes I got the Premium stuffs already. $6 for ROSE is just fine for me with the little bonuses. For example, the storage to be unlocked alone is 400 IM Points/Month. Then to use a Medal for an hour is 150 Points for a 50% boost.. but now with the Premium you get a smaller boost that lasts nonstop. Oh, and as I always say, a boost in drops is always a thumbs up in my book. So, have a Item Mall costume on, Premium Account, and it balances out if you are someone who uses these services in the Item Mall. As for the free daily bonus stuff.. now it becomes worthwhile (depending on what it would be). The only negative thing is the limit of free characters now going down to 3, which, is a number you see on most free games. for a Premium account to have 8 is kinda.. a lot.

I see people going "boo-hoo" on this idea but don't think of it as buying ROSE for a monthly service, but more like buying a value meal at a fast food store. Sure you could just get the burger, or you could pay a little more and get the drink and fries for cheaper then getting it seperately. thats what I see here.
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Posted 24 November 2011 - 11:36 AM

I've got nothing wrong with increasing the max character creation on premium accounts to 8, but not too crazy about lowering the standard accounts to 3. I mean, sure you can still create a new account free of charge and make new chars on that, but if they take away this what else will they remove from 'free to play' in the future?
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#83 Eleria

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Posted 24 November 2011 - 12:24 PM

Just a stupid question. It says the premium account gives 120% exp and 130% drops. Why do I get triple exp and triple drops? Or did I just missed an double exp/drop announcement?
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Posted 24 November 2011 - 12:41 PM

yea its double drop + exp event, its was annouced ingame
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Posted 24 November 2011 - 12:42 PM

U missed the +50 drop/xp being turned on ontop of the premium account trial period.
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Posted 24 November 2011 - 02:09 PM

hmm my account did work for premium storage and add exp when the first updated to 370.

but now the storage I can not use and exp seems like normal...

Is it bag? Calanor I'm sorry I am not sure how to PM you in game so write in here

in the game should i just write "Calanor hello my account not working for premium account. like this?

I try this but not work... please fix my account thank you.

Oh in additional, I open the account in 7th of Oct 2011.
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Posted 24 November 2011 - 02:30 PM

be happy that u can play, i cannot login since 8 hours lol
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Posted 24 November 2011 - 02:48 PM

sorry i relog few times that problem fixed, that is â?? working now.

but still can not create 8 characters. only 5 max.
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Posted 24 November 2011 - 03:40 PM

sorry i relog few times that problem fixed, that is �?? working now.

but still can not create 8 characters. only 5 max.

If you read that part isn't complete yet they had a problem with it and need to fix it for the next patch.
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Posted 25 November 2011 - 04:49 AM

So now energy will be taken to make Premium Quests instead of quests for all. And energy to update other premium things, I just don't like the idea about premium accounts. I assume you will be making areas for premium soon as well, even dungeons that are for premium - I do believe I've seen that on your other games (do tell if I'm mistaking).
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Posted 26 November 2011 - 12:40 AM

After reading these 4 pages Its a little hard to track what IS and IS NOT working on the premium service. It WOULD be nice if Cal would Edit the first post to indicate a list of what DOES and DOES NOT work at the moment.

a few notes:

1. Notice that it only works half arsed for now, and MIGHT have some things fixed on TUES but not all, so we do NOT have a functional example during the 'free 10 day trial' And for those things that wont be fixed by tues maint, o boy, awsome! they must be making sure we CANT make the extra 3 toons per acct and WONT be getting any 'free daily items".


2. If it works this well... why would i pay for this service? And YES i do expect any major maintenance to be full of bugs, with repeated server starts. But they arent even puting in fixed when they are ready, but waiting for the maintenance. And im not holding my breath that things will be up and running fully by tuesday from the sound of it.

3. Supposedly Cal indicated that they 'FIXED" where only some toons on some accts would get premium service, and fixed where half the active accts received premium service where other active accounts (during specified time period) were not getting the premium trial. I can confirm this is NOT correct. ALL of my accounts were active thru most of october, and all did spend several days doing the halloween event, yet not all my accounts have this service. Some toons can access premium storage, and some can't. And as indicated by others Sometimes the premium service is working, and later on, for same account it is NOT working. So yes, its a holiday weekend, not expecting a full staff working on it. but they do seem to have time to post adds for holiday / black friday sales. LOL>>

Maybe, once this is working properly i will consider utilizing the service, upon occasion, for what ever account i am utilizing that month. But i would probably wait till they add more premium services before utilizing this. (dungeons, that are PVM, etc)
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Posted 26 November 2011 - 11:34 AM

Can we have additional gameplay after this please?

f/e another planet, 3th jobclasses or what so ever,

or is there still to little income generated to hire new designers and really "finish" the game, which you have been working on for ages now.... 7 planets :unsure:

Maybe it's time to attract new players to ROSE because it's losing some every day.. (not me, yet <_< ) instead of selling crap stuff to the current community ..

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Posted 26 November 2011 - 02:08 PM

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How can you advertise this while it isnt working.
I bought premium for 30 days, the free trail isn't working for me.
With the purchase i thought it would work,i was wrong.
Offcouse i made a ticket for this....
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Posted 26 November 2011 - 04:03 PM

I hope this game is not going back to P2P because i will not pay for it.
Since they are not releasing any new content.

They keep adding things wich cause more bugs than the game had before.
i would not spend my money on the small amount of % drop and exp rate. i mean cmon 20% .
We already get +505 for free ^^ so why pay for the small amoutn of %.

In my opinion: "Bad idea!"
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Posted 26 November 2011 - 08:51 PM

I hope this game is not going back to P2P because i will not pay for it.


Gotta love people that can read:

We are a Free to Play game. We are not moving back to a Pay to Play platform. Naughty explained the benefits of the Premium Account, but if you have any other questions please let us know.


Although I do wish that when you paid for something, they would give you what you paid for... I didn't get the free trial nor am I getting what I decided to pay for... chargeback much (if not fixed soon, this is my next option)???

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Posted 27 November 2011 - 02:36 AM

Gotta love people that can read:



Although I do wish that when you paid for something, they would give you what you paid for... I didn't get the free trial nor am I getting what I decided to pay for... chargeback much (if not fixed soon, this is my next option)???

O couldnt find that comment sorry.
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Posted 27 November 2011 - 01:50 PM

I hope this game is not going back to P2P because i will not pay for it.
Since they are not releasing any new content.

They keep adding things wich cause more bugs than the game had before.
i would not spend my money on the small amount of % drop and exp rate. i mean cmon 20% .
We already get +505 for free ^^ so why pay for the small amoutn of %.

In my opinion: "Bad idea!"


To be fair, in the olden days of P2P, we paid, they updated the game. But, if they went too long without updates, and yes, that did happen, then people would drop out and wait - fair enough.

I don't know, maybe they make more money now with the F2P model where many people buy very little IM stuff, and then you have a few nut cases who spend hundred or even thousands (like that one woman admitted her boyfriend had spent $6,000 for example) vs everyone who plays paying $12+ per account per month.

One thing I do know is they have been making the game worse "in my humble opinion" during the past 2+ years than it was in the 3 years prior, even when the game went through long periods of virtually no development, AT LEAST it wasn't getting made worse!


I know the PR folks at Gravity like to say this game is free to play and you can enjoy the game without paying, but I think that is becoming less and less true as time is going by. Why? It is because if you don't pay, the gaming experience is being "thinned" down systematically.

For example, the drops have been screwed around with to the point they are thinned down vs over a year ago, and in high level maps, poo like we used to get in the lowest maps drop. I honestly don't know what they were thinking when they edited the drop tables early this year and put things like leg bones and back bones in high level maps? What, now they are going to fix the drops "hopefully" and then come in like knights on shining armors as hero's? They never should have done that in the first place.

A new example is they are going to remove 2 character slots from new accounts, and possibly older accounts? Here we go again, if you don't pay, they are going to take things away from what we used to have. Who's bright idea was that? Whats next, and why should I worry? What are they going to take away from me next?

I honestly would rather have the game we had 3 years ago after they fixed the crafting and revamped the battle system and go back to an HONEST pay to play model, and none of this ethically dodgy gambling poo in the game. Now theyhave "lucky" this and "lucky" that. "Lucky" is just a sugar coated euphamism for "it's all going to end in tears" for the majority. The only one lucky is the one running the "casino". Looking at things more plainly, it's like calling good evil and evil good.

Edited by CoffeeMuse, 27 November 2011 - 03:29 PM.

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#98 Maxxie

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 03:36 AM

I hope this is working today, with 8 chars on 1 account their is more gameplay and fun.

But it is sad after every update their are problems .


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Posted 28 November 2011 - 05:18 AM

Things just doesn't look good especially those who are not going to pay...
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Posted 28 November 2011 - 01:43 PM

For Narose Developers : If u r not ready to release Premium Service, pls dund release it now. I have bought Premium Service for 1 of my account. But till now I didnt get free premium storage access / make 8 characters. So I will waste 600 WP energy for nothing. Dund only say will fix soon....Im very dissapointed with this one feature.

Edited by Eleonorra, 28 November 2011 - 07:15 PM.

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