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#1 Aigis

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Posted 03 December 2011 - 02:50 PM

Hi there
i'm changing my elementalist in a druid :3 (as the title said) now since i was a druid before, i should know how to make a build, but! But... i was an All-Doing Druid (Tank-Dps). The classic pve druid that can do everything and not badly. Now with all this skills they said to me to put "gravity up" and "wastewater" cause i use magical jewels too, so i have 2 request:
1)can you help me to make a build pls?
2)i need foc mirona, cause i have ES now, so i'm trading my full +8 foc schutlis (for avenger\ranger 65) or my full set ES (+7\10, elementalist druid 65) or 4 pieces of the monster hunter set (+8 ranger\avenger 65) or 250 carus or whatever all this -_-s (for me are -_-s since i dont have anymore elem or ranger or avenger) for a foc mirona set at least +5.
Can you help me guys? (maybe i should put the second request in the market place, but this is related to my changing in druid, so i put it here too).

P.S EDITED:
this is a build test that i did, give me tips:
http://inmmo.ru/requ...0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0

Edited by Aigis, 03 December 2011 - 03:01 PM.

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#2 Longhorns

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Posted 04 December 2011 - 12:09 AM

1. If you're going druidele, wtf

2. If you're going SS physical druid, wtf.

You didn't put any points into the one skill that makes druids any fun, approach.

I'm lazy, I'll let Ditto tell you where you went wrong.
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#3 Aigis

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Posted 04 December 2011 - 02:03 AM

nope i'm not a druidele, nope i'm not a just a SS druid, yes i'm a druid that do all, semi magical, semi physical, tank, and self-healing :3
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Posted 04 December 2011 - 04:38 AM

indeed, i rly cant understand this build, and not enough time to comment, sorry. maybe i get a chance later.
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Posted 04 December 2011 - 07:34 AM

i'll explain again: i want a build to use both transformations + some usefull skills of the normal mode (not transformed). It should be for pve, but if you want to do a pvp build, you can, i just want some tips :3
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Posted 04 December 2011 - 10:50 AM

I am not Ditto and I play in a style really different from you, so my comments may be unprofessional.
From your build I would conclude that you want to grind with Inferno aa, but spam bleeding, ROB and Storm slash in the process; tank in DG, with some self-heals; pvp like an elementalist, nuking at a distance.
So my comments are the following:
1. The grinding part is fine, but I wouldn't recommend putting 10 points in bleeding as the points can be more useful elsewhere. Also, I would recommend putting a point in double slash, more dps I think.
2. For tanking, I would say max taunt, and put some more points into the many defense buffs you have, unless you can reach decent defense with just your armor.
3. For pvp, I think your build would suck really bad. Only 1 stun, one short distance dash with long CD, and you probably cannot reach 2700+750 defense. Unless you can kill your opponent in the 3s stun provided by storm slash, I think you will be raped pretty hard.
Just my thoughts, Ditto will give you wayyyyy better advice. She's the pro. ;P
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Posted 04 December 2011 - 10:51 AM

I'd like to be not a pvp, better pve for me, it's just for fun :3

What about this? (druid based on pve using everything, both transformations + some battle magician skills)

http://inmmo.ru/requ...0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0

Edited by Aigis, 04 December 2011 - 11:03 AM.

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Posted 04 December 2011 - 11:05 AM

I'd like to be not a pvp, better pve for me, it's just for fun :3

Well, pve builds are not that subtle, so I think yours is fine. Though I would put more points into defence and max one of the forms for either tanking or grinding. However, in my humble opinion, druids are more fun to play pvp-wise. I'd rather use aoe classes like tempest, mystics or defi for grinding and prot for tanking

Edited by Prototipe, 04 December 2011 - 11:18 AM.

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Posted 04 December 2011 - 11:13 AM

I'd like to be not a pvp, better pve for me, it's just for fun :3

What about this? (druid based on pve using everything, both transformations + some battle magician skills)

http://inmmo.ru/requ...0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0

ROB maxed is a must for all of pvp, tanking and grinding. The lv80 stun will be useless in your build since it won't work against bosses, and you probably won't go DG while grinding. Also, MORE DEFENSE! Otherwise, you are fine.
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Posted 04 December 2011 - 12:34 PM

mmm and instead of putting skills points on the defense, can i put dna points on it? :glomp:
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Posted 04 December 2011 - 12:36 PM

Either drop bleeding to one to make room for other skills, or drop PoT. You don't need 9 points, and 5 in bleeding. Also, the build is highly flawed depending on the enchants you are using. You're either going to have 50% SCC/ 20% or so CC, or 50+% CC and very abysmal SCC. You need to decide which is important as enchanting with .30% crit xeons is an extreme waste of time, because of the low crit gain, unless you're going to use [Event Critical Xeons] (The .50s ones) I wouldn't bother trying to do both, and even then with those you'll be better at one aspect (AA or SS) in comparison to the other.

You can't really just say "I'm going to be the best of both", if that's the case many classes would attempt to go hybrid(Which is ultimately flawed. As for the points in DG, those are not needed too because the bonuses from DG aren't that detrimental to tanking. Also, if you're not going to choose one route or the other, you should probably drop wastewater, because it's rather pointless to have if it doesn't crit. The points in wastewater should be in gravity up. And if you want to go pure magic DPS based, you should rather go Druidele, because your build tries to be a traditional druid build, yet it doesn't really do that, the only difference COULD be the points in swift arm, which some SS druids take, and others don't take. If you can decide what armor set to use after FOC set, and which style you'd rather excel in then I can actually help you make a much more rounded build, but until then I can't.
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Posted 04 December 2011 - 12:57 PM

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Posted 04 December 2011 - 01:02 PM

Either drop bleeding to one to make room for other skills, or drop PoT. You don't need 9 points, and 5 in bleeding. Also, the build is highly flawed depending on the enchants you are using. You're either going to have 50% SCC/ 20% or so CC, or 50+% CC and very abysmal SCC. You need to decide which is important as enchanting with .30% crit xeons is an extreme waste of time, because of the low crit gain, unless you're going to use [Event Critical Xeons] (The .50s ones) I wouldn't bother trying to do both, and even then with those you'll be better at one aspect (AA or SS) in comparison to the other.

You can't really just say "I'm going to be the best of both", if that's the case many classes would attempt to go hybrid(Which is ultimately flawed. As for the points in DG, those are not needed too because the bonuses from DG aren't that detrimental to tanking. Also, if you're not going to choose one route or the other, you should probably drop wastewater, because it's rather pointless to have if it doesn't crit. The points in wastewater should be in gravity up. And if you want to go pure magic DPS based, you should rather go Druidele, because your build tries to be a traditional druid build, yet it doesn't really do that, the only difference COULD be the points in swift arm, which some SS druids take, and others don't take. If you can decide what armor set to use after FOC set, and which style you'd rather excel in then I can actually help you make a much more rounded build, but until then I can't.

There you go! Follow her words like the Bible!

Edited by Prototipe, 04 December 2011 - 01:03 PM.

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Posted 04 December 2011 - 01:05 PM

There you go! Follow her words like the Bible!


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Posted 04 December 2011 - 01:23 PM

mmm and instead of putting skills points on the defense, can i put dna points on it? :glomp:

Well, maxing the DNA's of POT and Armor Mastery is a must. You could do that first then add points to the defense buffs until you reach or exceed 2700 def, since you won't go pvp.
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Posted 04 December 2011 - 01:46 PM

http://inmmo.ru/requ...0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
What about this?

i'll use like 2 pieces of ever s1 + 4 of foc mirona. Then i'll pass to fascination set.

I really dont want to drop to 1 wastewater, cause i think that is good, and i'll try to get 50% of CC + somethin up of the SCC, i had a druid before, so i knew that you could do everything, but now...it's all changed...

@for SYRE :D she is in a college far from me, i'll call her to say "hi" from you :P

Edited by Aigis, 04 December 2011 - 01:58 PM.

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 02:43 AM

@for SYRE :D she is in a college far from me, i'll call her to say "hi" from you :P


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Posted 05 December 2011 - 05:00 AM

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I did it :3 she said "yeah, say hi from me too and don't try to catch another girl sevy! Kiss".
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Posted 05 December 2011 - 05:07 AM

http://inmmo.ru/requiem/db/calc?s=100#85,0,1,1,0,1,1,0,0,1,1,1,0,0,0,10,1,2,10,4,1,1,10,1,1,9,0,10,1,4,0,6,10,0,1,5,0,1,0,5,2,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
What about this?

i'll use like 2 pieces of ever s1 + 4 of foc mirona. Then i'll pass to fascination set.

I really dont want to drop to 1 wastewater, cause i think that is good, and i'll try to get 50% of CC + somethin up of the SCC, i had a druid before, so i knew that you could do everything, but now...it's all changed...

@for SYRE :D she is in a college far from me, i'll call her to say "hi" from you :P


If you mean s1 fascination ( lvl 70), good luck finding it.

And if u mean s2 fascination (lv 72), Tht means u can remove storm slash and prob bleeding

Also if ur AA druid using lv 72 s2, then remove raging strike, absorbing energy, RT, RW, wastewater. If u rly want a dot, get hydraclorid throw since its aoe. Points u gain u can spend on DG heal if ur scrit will be high or maybe wave of healing.

Oh and scrit/scad build is generally better for druids, even pve. If you have bette scrit / magic dmg stuff your heals do a LOT better than compared to AA build.

Oh and if u have crappy mp recovery, skip the inferno / dash and get vilovy. Cuz travelling using only dashes for long distances takes a lot of mp/ mp rec.
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Posted 05 December 2011 - 07:31 AM



If you mean s1 fascination ( lvl 70), good luck finding it.

And if u mean s2 fascination (lv 72), Tht means u can remove storm slash and prob bleeding

Also if ur AA druid using lv 72 s2, then remove raging strike, absorbing energy, RT, RW, wastewater. If u rly want a dot, get hydraclorid throw since its aoe. Points u gain u can spend on DG heal if ur scrit will be high or maybe wave of healing.

Oh and scrit/scad build is generally better for druids, even pve. If you have bette scrit / magic dmg stuff your heals do a LOT better than compared to AA build.

Oh and if u have crappy mp recovery, skip the inferno / dash and get vilovy. Cuz travelling using only dashes for long distances takes a lot of mp/ mp rec.

Sigh, I can only dash so far...without spamming pots.
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Posted 05 December 2011 - 03:30 PM

I did it :3 she said "yeah, say hi from me too and don't try to catch another girl sevy! Kiss".
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yea thanks, as a reward you win my carus pride set! yey!
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