January 3rd, 2012 maintenance

I over this level in microeconomics but thanks. And your attrition rate is a postulate based on feelings. (people never quit for real)


But the real problem for the server and the whole RO community is here: please, Fix Sakray: I reseted my stats on Valkyrie last tuesday and I can't go on sakray for testing!

Edited by Sabaton, 06 January 2012 - 09:28 AM.

er i think that the price drop is good for new players like me to get equips to have decent gears to woe.i mean if those prices are so high we would not be able to afford those stuff but with this i m able to get 2 nid and slot stuff inside the garment.

like last 3 months nid garb was like 99 mil how on earth i get 99 million to begin with.it is a long process to get 99 mil and by the time i get 99 mil maybe the prices increased because of the demand was higher then before.this would certainly alienate newer players like me. dun u guys like new players

it is not good news to older players but it is certainly good news for newer players.

and if there are so many nid why not use those time and do mora quest or hunt gr or hunt other stuff then nid then sell?

New players being able to afford end game equipments easily is a bad things. It'll mean that the demand will die even faster. :/

i think the main point everyone are talking is veteran players don't like getting owned by the new players in pvp and woe with their *once expensive turn cheap* equips

i think the main point everyone are talking is veteran players don't like getting owned by the new players in pvp and woe with their *once expensive turn cheap* equips

If equips are not worth the hazzle people will stop hunting them, and I'll laugh when newbies will have a even harder time trying to get the equips later on. We're not crying cause "we're getting owned by equips in WoE/PVP" I don't care about those, I care about the economy unlike you and a whole bunch of other people that just care about themselves.

This doesn't just include end game equips, it includes ALL equips. New players now a days (mostly the lazy kind)are forced to buy KP to gain some money cause they can't sell the gears they find as they level, which was a better way to gain money back in the old days (least for me it was). Not all new players can afford KP to sell, so you see "defender of the newbies" you're actually causing more harm to your "fellow comrads" than good.

You have to see the big picture before you do stuff...
And making money isn't hard... You make it sound like making 99m is SOOO hard, oh please. Learn how to make money, I've NEVER, and a repeat NEVER sold any KP for zeny and I have all my gears(even back when the equips were "OH SO EXPENSIVE IMPOSSIBLE TO GET!"). Even now with this screwed up economy I have found ways to make zeny, so don't give me that "Oh it's so hard for us new players". I just want things to get better, and have a stable economy again, and not just for me, but for everyone. And the only way I see that is to have gears breaking again. Or who knows... But gears have GOT to GO!

Edited by iiNote, 06 January 2012 - 11:56 AM.

er what do u think of a stable economy? nid going back up to 90mil and above? diabolus robes going back up to 150 mil ++ inflation is what we call a stable economy? and if it is cheap, newbie can just sell loots to the npc and get moneys until like 30 mil then we can buy it so i think i m not like harming those newbies

and if i remember correctly oda said that he is trying to deflate the economy so that new players can get their equips easier which a lot of u agree

and btw if people stop hunting them then the equips prices will inflate again so dun u think by that time people will hunt it again?

and btw i m not exactly new just trying to help the poor *and make myself poorer*

er what do u think of a stable economy? nid going back up to 90mil and above? diabolus robes going back up to 150 mil ++ inflation is what we call a stable economy? and if it is cheap, newbie can just sell loots to the npc and get moneys until like 30 mil then we can buy it so i think i m not like harming those newbies

and if i remember correctly oda said that he is trying to deflate the economy so that new players can get their equips easier which a lot of u agree

and btw if people stop hunting them then the equips prices will inflate again so dun u think by that time people will hunt it again?

and btw i m not exactly new just trying to help the poor *and make myself poorer*

Yes, that was a stable economy because IT WOULD SELL MORE back then even though it was "OH SO EXPENSIVE", WHY? cause you needed more to upgrade to your desired level! There was risk! If things don't sell then what economy do you have?

Why do you think they made gears break before?

Those are end gear, they are MEANT to be harder to get. And 150m is not hard to get. You can still save money and reach that amount. Now you barely have to save anything since you can get everything so easily. What we're getting is a spoiled community. That's why you see people just whinning about the game being "harder". I don't hunt any of this End game content so don't go saying I'm getting hurt by this. It's a big portion of the economy what is getting hurt.

HD Ores are good, enriched ores are good, it's safe certs etc what's killing the gear portion of the economy. Higher success chance is fine. As long as there is some portion or risk and loss the whole thing is FINE! I don't see why they can't just keep the ores with a bonus % of success instead of keeping the broken "no risk have your high refined item".

It's okay to have it as a rare event maybe once a year, but not so many times like we've been having it lately.

People will still buy those ores.

Anyways, I've had so many talks on this forums about this issue and always there are some "Robin Hood wannabes" who think everything is okay, it's all fine. So I'll just leave it here. Since I know nothing will change until the gear portion of the economy is dead, and the only gear that will sell is KP gear. I'll see you then talking the way I'm talking now. Just wait and you'll see. Peace.

Edited by iiNote, 06 January 2012 - 01:13 PM.

dude why are u so pissed this is just a discussion not an argument and the thing why i say that it is better for new players is because i have seen it all with my eyes

last time ragnarok we can only vend up to a max of 10 mil and now we can vend up to 100mil

lets compare last time aoa and lets say a gr card or gtb or those high end stuff

aoa last time was around 1 mil and a gr card is like 200mil

then now in this 100 mil world aoa is around 300k and a gr card is like 3-4b if this keep on inflating then those gr card will be like 10b and aoa will still be 300k and those loots pricing are still the same

is all because those rich people does not buy aoa anymore and those rich people buying higher end stuff higher money curculating on top and below those money not circulating which lead to newer players still being poor and the richer players will be richer if u get the idea

and i know why u pissed also because u are those guys using zeny to buy kp and with the price dropping and not the kp prices u are all qqing :X

dun think about yourself think about other new players

thats why oda wants to shorten this gap

^ you don't understand. gm is trying to make it easier for new players, but way too easy. first time i play this game i had the same thought. but now that im hunting my own zenny (i often spend kp with my own irl money, not zenny), i can feel how hard it is for veterans to make money now. new players are getting it too easy. us people that spend time on this game more by hunting doesn't earn . 30m is nothing for veterans, we ain't gonna go hunting 30m items for 100 times to collect stuff like god items that are easily worth 10b+

you're only thinking about yourself, he's right. we understand new players wanting to gain things easier, but at the moment it is TOO easy.