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#1 p4r4d0x999

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Posted 17 May 2012 - 07:21 AM

Bug is that Cold Heart description lists a Aspd +3 effect that it doesn't actually give; see last posts -Azzy

I wanna ask about this combo,

Rogue`s Treasure + Cold Heart

1st let see the description
Posted Image Rogue's Treasure An exclusive ring for the Thief and Ninja class.
  • If the user's base Str is 90 or higher:
    • Hit +10
    • Flee +10
  • If the user's base Agi is 90 or higher:
    • Atk +10
    • Crit +10
  • Set bonus with Cold Heart:
    • Increases physical damage against [Medium] size targets by 8%.
    • Every two upgrades to the weapon gives Aspd +1%.
  • Set bonus with Black Cat:
    • Increases physical damage against [Large] size targets by 8%.
    • For every two upgrades to the weapon:
    • Aspd +1%
    • Reduces the variable cast time of skills by 1%.
Posted Image Cold Heart A little something that Assassins should have. There're a number of rumors regarding the blood stain at the end of the blade.
  • Set bonus with Rogue's Treasure:
  • Increases physical damage against [Medium] size targets by 8%.
  • Every two upgrades to the weapon gives Aspd +1%.
So, i read this description in irowiki, and i im using the combo atm. Cold heart will gives extra aspd each 2 upgrades from weapon. I am using this combo since my weapon is +4, now my weapon is +9 but my aspd doesnt change.
I even tried it with knife +10 but nothing happened.

Is it bugged, if no please give me an explanation. Thank you :thx:

Edited by DrAzzy, 21 May 2012 - 07:53 AM.

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#2 DrAzzy

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Posted 17 May 2012 - 12:46 PM

What is your aspd with and without it?

+% aspd effects are depressingly small in renewal - it's not inconcievable that +3% wouldn't change the aspd number :-(

Note that the "+% aspd" effects actually increase the speed at which you attack by the stated percentage, not your aspd substat. They work by reducing the swing delay (the time between attacks). Aspd is calculated as 200-(swing delay), where swing delay is expressed in frames (1 frame = 1/50th of a second).

So at 180 aspd, you might not see a +3% aspd difference, because of the

That said, it's also entirely possible that it doesn't work at all, and I wouldn't be surprised if it only looked at the right-hand weapon or most recently equipped weapon, or something like that

Edited by DrAzzy, 17 May 2012 - 01:46 PM.

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Posted 17 May 2012 - 12:49 PM

Its ASPD +1% NOT ASPD +1. There's a huge difference lol. Most likely the item is working correctly its just that the %s don't add that much more ASPD.
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Posted 17 May 2012 - 12:51 PM

I'm just wondering if the bonus stacks with dual dagger, having 2 +10 weapons will give you 10% increase aspd?
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Posted 18 May 2012 - 01:40 PM

What is your aspd with and without it?

+% aspd effects are depressingly small in renewal - it's not inconcievable that +3% wouldn't change the aspd number :-(

Note that the "+% aspd" effects actually increase the speed at which you attack by the stated percentage, not your aspd substat. They work by reducing the swing delay (the time between attacks). Aspd is calculated as 200-(swing delay), where swing delay is expressed in frames (1 frame = 1/50th of a second).

So at 180 aspd, you might not see a +3% aspd difference, because of the

That said, it's also entirely possible that it doesn't work at all, and I wouldn't be surprised if it only looked at the right-hand weapon or most recently equipped weapon, or something like that

Its ASPD +1% NOT ASPD +1. There's a huge difference lol. Most likely the item is working correctly its just that the %s don't add that much more ASPD.


Thank you for the explanation... well my friend explained to me, the different between using cold heart and without it.

I also tried changing weapon,
I am using RT + cold heart w/o weapon > ASPD 183
Then i use +9 KvM > ASPD still 183
Even with +10 knife ASPD also the same. > ASPD 183

Sorry for the trouble
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Posted 18 May 2012 - 02:06 PM

Its ASPD +1% NOT ASPD +1. There's a huge difference lol. Most likely the item is working correctly its just that the %s don't add that much more ASPD.


And u could find any Cold Heart in game, the description i game says Aspd+3
Its a little bit different. Look it up please. Anway thank you
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Posted 18 May 2012 - 05:41 PM

And u could find any Cold Heart in game, the description i game says Aspd+3
Its a little bit different. Look it up please. Anway thank you

Don't always believe what the game tells you. Many translations are incorrect in-game. Look at the database, it says every two upgrades give +1%. And in your case that seems to be what happened. Got it? Good.
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Posted 18 May 2012 - 09:27 PM

Don't always believe what the game tells you. Many translations are incorrect in-game. Look at the database, it says every two upgrades give +1%. And in your case that seems to be what happened. Got it? Good.


Ah got it :thx:

Sorry if this bother u, thanks... I am just curious :p_laugh:
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Posted 19 May 2012 - 01:21 PM

So - is the description inaccurate? I don't have any handy to check. If the desc is wrong, we should report that as a bug!
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Posted 20 May 2012 - 11:56 AM

Posted Image

There, on the item description in game. Thank you ~

Edited by p4r4d0x999, 20 May 2012 - 11:57 AM.

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 07:51 AM

Yup, that desc should be fixed.

Edited by DrAzzy, 21 May 2012 - 07:53 AM.

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 08:03 AM

thanks for the help /no1 :thx:
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Posted 21 May 2012 - 08:12 AM

could we change the real effect accroding to items description, instead of changing the description :P
+3 aspd :rice:
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