Meh, so what is everyone's biggest gripe with this proposal? I think I am seeing 2 things, even though I try to argue with them...
1) It's still too easy to get an extremely fast cast time. And I mean .. you are serious right? I am trying to emphasize the stats and gears and buffs that are needed to really bring cast times down, so you really think casting certain skills is still too fast?
2) Special archer skills should have no cast time or a cast formula that that makes getting instant cast relatively easy?
Is this correct, or is there anything else?
Also, Jaye, when you bring the difference between what cast times were meant for 2nd jobs and 3rd jobs, I may see what you mean.
The thing is, it is ARGUABLE, that even with the new renewal system, a wizard way before the time of trans classes would most likely have a cast time only slightly faster than a warlock with sacraments and high dex/int, cast gears.
A wizard with 131 dex (no other buffs but bless) would get a stormgust off in 1.9 seconds. A warlock with nearly the max of int and dex and the sacraments buffs would probably cast stormgust anywhere from 1.7 - 2 seconds.
Then you take warlock skills, for instance. From what I hear from players who actually played and tested, marsh of abyss has no cast time. The AoE stone curse has no cast time. Neither does white imprison. ..... Soul expansion has a short cast time, and earth strain is probably takes about as long to cast as lv 10 JT. I mean, really.
This is only one tree, but still, there seem to be a ton of 3rd job skills that are probably more useful now but have instant or much shorter cast times than other 2nd job skills... If anything, not sure if this helps my point or not, but what I am saying is, I just don't see this correlation between needing to change cast time formula and then designing a bunch of skills with this formula in mind that don't particularly seem as screwed over by it as previous skills... I have no idea why it seems the more advanced and useful skills seem to have way shorter cast times than the previous 2nd class skills....
Still, I am not buying that all these archer skills were meant to have "instant" cast. Probably really fast, but instant cast, always, as an inalienable right? Not really.
Don't believe me? Take arrow repel. You get this skill as an archer. And you won't have anywhere near 150 dex at the time. Or blitz beat? Typically this skill was also useful for builds that got luk, int, and more agi, so of course the dex on these builds would obviously be lacking.
But as for arrow vulcan or FAS, I just don' think it's fair they are instant cast. No, I don't want to make the cast incredibly stupid and gimpy, just not instant. FAS, well... it pwns mobs. Nuff said. Arrow vulcan, however, even if it has a .4 sec cast time... if you want to complain that DS could do nearly the same damage, try having a priest follow you and lex before you attack and notice the difference.
Edited by LethalJokeChar, 20 September 2010 - 10:37 AM.