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#51 SirSlayer

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 05:51 PM

If it came down to requesting/accepting a battle to pvp/war each other, I would never pvp in this game again. I hate games that you have to "request/accept" a battle.
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Posted 03 July 2012 - 10:00 PM

Once you enter into a PvP Zone, you accept the fact that you might get PK'ed.

Simple as that.

If you keep getting killed, move to a different zone. Luna or Goblin Caves, take your pick. :p_idea:

I like this statement. Soon you will see one group of full time pker in ruin or DOD. Remember your words, don't kick our ass or warning us.
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Posted 03 July 2012 - 11:14 PM

I suggest doing what luciolle suggested. They are PvP Zones so them coming to you and killing you isn't something we ban users for in a PvP Zone.

True thats what PvP zones are made for, but still if they keep persisting killing every single party so many times, thats just not normal thats a way of harresment.

If you ask them to stop and they keep persisting their killing they mostly will insult you or what ever, what you can do is Screenshot their insults and submit a ticket for harresment and for being insulted, they most likely will give a warning or 1-3day ban as i experienced these alot of times.

Edited by djilano, 03 July 2012 - 11:17 PM.

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 01:56 AM

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harassment

(either harris-meant or huh-rass-meant) n. the act of systematic and/or continued unwanted and annoying actions of one party or a group, including threats and demands. The purposes may vary, including racial prejudice, personal malice, an attempt to force someone to quit a job or grant sexual favors, apply illegal pressure to collect a bill, or merely gain sadistic pleasure from making someone fearful or anxious. Such activities may be the basis for a lawsuit if due to discrimination based on race or sex, a violation on the statutory limitations on collection agencies, involve revenge by an ex-spouse, or be shown to be a form of blackmail ("I'll stop bothering you, if you'll go to bed with me"). The victim may file a petition for a "stay away" (restraining) order, intended to prevent contact by the offensive party. A systematic pattern of harassment by an employee against another worker may subject the employer to a lawsuit for failure to protect the worker"



google harassment if you want to know what is appropriate or not.


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Posted 04 July 2012 - 02:09 AM

Has everyone forgot about the Gorge of Silence???

You can go there at about level 70 ish and stay till 100 easily, there are some nice spots to level at, if you don't mind the ever so slightly grinding that GoS may offer from time to time, Bask in the sunshine of glory, underneath a 2 ton rock of pure retardedness, slay the golems, pick up some loot, but overall enjoy the ever flowing exp that the rock men of GoS have to offer.
( I love how this sounds like an advert ).
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Posted 04 July 2012 - 02:33 AM

+1 cuse you made me wonna go kick a worm dragon in the gooch while eatin an ice cream sandwich.
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Posted 04 July 2012 - 02:45 AM

"

harassment

(either harris-meant or huh-rass-meant) n. the act of systematic and/or continued unwanted and annoying actions of one party or a group, including threats and demands. The purposes may vary, including racial prejudice, personal malice, an attempt to force someone to quit a job or grant sexual favors, apply illegal pressure to collect a bill, or merely gain sadistic pleasure from making someone fearful or anxious. Such activities may be the basis for a lawsuit if due to discrimination based on race or sex, a violation on the statutory limitations on collection agencies, involve revenge by an ex-spouse, or be shown to be a form of blackmail ("I'll stop bothering you, if you'll go to bed with me"). The victim may file a petition for a "stay away" (restraining) order, intended to prevent contact by the offensive party. A systematic pattern of harassment by an employee against another worker may subject the employer to a lawsuit for failure to protect the worker"



google harassment if you want to know what is appropriate or not.


Not sure where you're going with this definition.. I feel like by you posting this, and all your other posts on the forums you are deliberately harassing everyone here(community and Rose Dev team alike). I think you should be banned for this harassment. See what I did there?


Harassment is such a vague term, it can be applied to just about anything--oh my beloved semantics. Pking can be and is form of harassment, however its a form of acceptable harassment in this case. It makes the game go round. If they are insulting you, or otherwise saying inappropriate things, yes I suggest screen shotting said things and probably reporting them. But not just for the act of pking alone.

If you insist on leveling in a pk area, see if you can bring protection with you, or make a friend with someone you know you can call for help when you level. I, personally, like to level with good friends and clannies now--That way I know if someone pks us, they are going to have to hide out for the rest of the day. ;)
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Posted 04 July 2012 - 03:24 AM

That's just the legal definition of harassment, have no intention of taking actions myself unless it was a racial matter. you can kindly not post if you can't understand that. but you're entitled to feel whatever way you want on the matter.

on a side note,there is no such thing as acceptable harassment, ask any employer or HR representative.

Edited by Feuer, 04 July 2012 - 03:29 AM.

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 04:00 AM

That's just the legal definition of harassment, have no intention of taking actions myself unless it was a racial matter. you can kindly not post if you can't understand that. but you're entitled to feel whatever way you want on the matter.

on a side note,there is no such thing as acceptable harassment, ask any employer or HR representative.


The above is out of context with the original post and discussion, which was the guy was being pk'd in a PVP area and considered it harrassment, BUT Shazamo has already addressed that - basically saying it is not. As far as most of us are concerned, that settles it. I'm not sure why all the other stuff including office behavior needs to be brought up here, it would be better discussed in the OT section of the forums as it has little to do with RoseOnline.

Edited by CoffeeMuse, 04 July 2012 - 04:11 AM.

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 04:01 AM

That's just the legal definition of harassment, have no intention of taking actions myself unless it was a racial matter. you can kindly not post if you can't understand that. but you're entitled to feel whatever way you want on the matter.

on a side note,there is no such thing as acceptable harassment, ask any employer or HR representative.


It is often said in football that a player is harrassing another for the ball, basically tackling them a lot. This *could* be termed an acceptable form of harrassment. If players in a PVP area enjoy scaring newbies and making DoD a dangerous place by killing them - this could be seen to fit the definition, and we accept it in game because it makes things interesting. However, the devs don't see this as harrassment, in the sense that they use the word.

Your replies at this point are so snotty it's hard to take anything you say seriously, "google harrasment...", I sincerely doubt that you behave this way in person. The point is that the usage of the word, like most other words is subject to use in non-legal arenas, it's used in games and playful situations as well as serious legal situations. Having such a black and white view of language is your issue, and your attitude towards other people on this forum is condescending and unnecessary.

Edited by FormerlyEternal, 04 July 2012 - 04:03 AM.

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 04:35 AM

You're looking entirely into it, all i said was from a legal standpoint, that was the definition of harassment. If he really felt like he was being harassed, there are avenues for him to go to and seek information. Calling me condescending for provided a standard definition of a word is what is being taken out of context here. No idea why you're calling me snotty or saying I have an attitude. It's information.
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Posted 04 July 2012 - 05:07 AM

why not implement a Bounty Hunter Quest :D
whenever a Pker Kills more player repeatedly in a PVP zone, his name will turn into red
and automatically announces his name and location all over the place as a "Wanted Player",
he cant leave the PVP area for a certain time or based on how many players he slayed..
letting his item or gear a chance to drop when he gets killed by a "Bounty Hunter"

Just a suggestion , making it a lil bit interesting..
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Posted 04 July 2012 - 05:13 AM

You're looking entirely into it, all i said was from a legal standpoint, that was the definition of harassment. If he really felt like he was being harassed, there are avenues for him to go to and seek information. Calling me condescending for provided a standard definition of a word is what is being taken out of context here. No idea why you're calling me snotty or saying I have an attitude. It's information.


There's no such thing as being condescending when you're just "providing information", of course.
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Posted 04 July 2012 - 06:22 PM

why not implement a Bounty Hunter Quest :D
whenever a Pker Kills more player repeatedly in a PVP zone, his name will turn into red
and automatically announces his name and location all over the place as a "Wanted Player",
he cant leave the PVP area for a certain time or based on how many players he slayed..
letting his item or gear a chance to drop when he gets killed by a "Bounty Hunter"

Just a suggestion , making it a lil bit interesting..


That would make me go and pk all day :P
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Posted 04 July 2012 - 09:40 PM

why not implement a Bounty Hunter Quest :D
whenever a Pker Kills more player repeatedly in a PVP zone, his name will turn into red
and automatically announces his name and location all over the place as a "Wanted Player",
he cant leave the PVP area for a certain time or based on how many players he slayed..
letting his item or gear a chance to drop when he gets killed by a "Bounty Hunter"

Just a suggestion , making it a lil bit interesting..


think its a bit harsh letting his gears or items drop as a reward for killing him. like what most people said, it is a pvp after all. i like your idea and think that it could very well make this game a bit more livelier but maybe reward people with honor or valor pts or some other thing instead of making the pker pay for it. im sure you would rage quit if that happened to you yea?
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Posted 04 July 2012 - 09:43 PM

that or people would be smart and PK with dropped blue gears.
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Posted 04 July 2012 - 10:04 PM

Lol I'd PK with an alternative Visitor Look whilst wearing my main as a costume just to "rub it in" :P

Hasn't this thread gone on long enough? :wall:
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 12:53 AM

You can call it harrassment but u can also call it intimidation or bullying. Move to another area why the hell should i move when they are the bad guys. Rose management approves of harrassment bullying and intimidation its that obvious from their statements well goodluck with that attitude seems to just encourage people to be even more nasty than usual.
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 01:02 AM

You can call it harrassment but u can also call it intimidation or bullying.
I call it...well...Dying would be a good word...There are other area's you can level at.
Move to another area why the hell should i move when they are the bad guys.
There's no such thing as "bad guys" in this kind of situation, only those who survive, and those who don't, If your not gonna move to another area, then your inadvertently killing your own character by staying there o.O
Rose management approves of harrassment bullying and intimidation its that obvious from their statements well goodluck with that attitude seems to just encourage people to be even more nasty than usual.
Lol whut?, Rose doesn't condone harassment, as shaz quite rightly stated "They are PvP Zones so them coming to you and killing you isn't something we ban users for in a PvP Zone.", No one's forcing you to go to DoD to level up.
On a side note: Your not the 1st person to be killed in DoD by a higher level character then the one your leveling.


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Posted 05 July 2012 - 02:47 AM

Seriously.... BULZ and VAGOS There is nothing to gain from pking noobs all day long. Why not make play time hell for Kyoudai, Judgement and EBK who afk all day in Tg
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 03:03 AM

Seriously.... BULZ and VAGOS There is nothing to gain from pking noobs all day long. Why not make play time hell for Kyoudai, Judgement and EBK who afk all day in Tg



Sadly for you they already tried, kept dying and subsequently decided to keep attacking people they stand more of a chance against, low levels.
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 12:44 PM

Both my Champ and Raider can take out a Vago on a lucky day, and both are only is the mid 170's. thats a 45 level difference from max.. they're supa weakness
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 01:20 PM

Well, I have my fair share of pk's from them. BUT that is also what makes rose unique in a way, like buffsetting does. So if you're gonna cry and complain about getting pked, go to a different game. Because the devs aren't gonna change it. Am I on their side? No, I just want to state that getting pked isn't a big deal. You and your party can easily go to a different spot to level thats not a pvp zone.
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 06:44 PM

I don't mean to jump in here... but did I just read someone say "harrassment is a vague term"? LOL. Harrassment isn't a vague term, people that think that way say that to get out of things they do that are crappy. Harrassment is a very direct term, it implies one who is disturbing, pestering, and/or troubling another person repeatedly when it is obvious the person being "harrassed" doesn't want it to happen. If harassment is such a "vague" term, which I think the word you were looking for is "broad term" which in fact it isn't that either, I could say you harrass the staff constantly with your everyday bickering of clerics and how they don't suite your playing style when in fact you should just evolve with the game and give suggestions.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm all for pking people just for the fun of it. It is a pvp zone, that is what they are for, to pk anyone for any reason you feel necessary, even if that only means just to get your own personal kicks out of it. If I go in and pk someone in dod repeatedly for my own enjoyment, then that is my choice, and just like it is your choice to enter a pvp zone or not. Is it harrassment for me to do such a thing? SURE IT IS! By every sense of the definition it is harrassment, but that is what PVP is, you don't pk someone as a friendly gesture or to make friends, or to imply a good deed. You are pking someone to get a rise out of them, to be selfish and test out your own build, to be selfish and do it cause it makes you laugh, PVP zones aren't meant for babies who want everything handed to them. If you don't like PVP or being pk'd, simply do not enter a pvp zone.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 06:51 PM

Seriously.... BULZ and VAGOS There is nothing to gain from pking noobs all day long. Why not make play time hell for Kyoudai, Judgement and EBK who afk all day in Tg


Now I'm not defending these two people personally. But I don't understand where you mean "there is nothing to gain from pking noobs all day long". Why does everything you do in life have to have a gain to enjoy doing it? What gain does a kid get from sliding down a sliding board, or a riding a rollercoaster, or what gain does a person get from playing a video game in general? Nothing, other than SELF SATISFACTION. If it makes them feel good about themselves, if it makes them laugh, if it makes them have a good time playing ROSE, then what is the problem here? If others that are being pk'd don't like it, simply don't level in DOD. Better yet, level somewhere else, get geared and use the initiative to get geared faster that THEY just gave you by pking you, and go back and pk them. Whether you are a collecter, vendor, pker, clan leader, pvm, Game Arena only player, whatever you consider yourself, we all do what we do for the same reason, for self satisfaction.

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