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How to report bots... -effectively-
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Posted 22 July 2012 - 10:14 AM
byalan 2 is hilarious. If the GM's are going through ticket by ticket, 1 bot by 1 bot, they're doing it wrong. They could goto wolves, byalan, hodes, other popular bot maps, and nail a bunch of bots super fast. But apparently that's not how things are done.
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Posted 22 July 2012 - 04:57 PM
Just report the map
report the map?anndddd nothing happens.....
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Posted 22 July 2012 - 09:03 PM
i reported bots in the pyramids a few weeks ago, and they were gone 2 days later. i've been back down there recently and the bots haven't been back, so i'm pretty sure GMs are working on banning bots.
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Posted 23 July 2012 - 04:09 AM
hum I reported some 2nd Cls bots with rly nice scripts. I used the link from the first post. 2 days later I got pm from Oda that they are banned.
Maybe its better to wait till the botters buy magical stones and bann them after jobchange.
Maybe its better to wait till the botters buy magical stones and bann them after jobchange.
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Posted 23 July 2012 - 04:39 AM
The squeaky wheel gets the grease. If you don't report, they don't ban. That's the nature of the game.
I think the way theyre doing this is to ban the bots that bother playing customers. If you report a bot, because it bothers you, it gets removed. Even though there may be more on said map. They focus on the specific one you report.
Next day, you don't see said bot, and you're happy. If you can't be bothered to report, then it doesn't bother you enough.
I think the way theyre doing this is to ban the bots that bother playing customers. If you report a bot, because it bothers you, it gets removed. Even though there may be more on said map. They focus on the specific one you report.
Next day, you don't see said bot, and you're happy. If you can't be bothered to report, then it doesn't bother you enough.
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Posted 23 July 2012 - 06:31 AM
Ok, I do want to say that I am grateful to the community members that take the time to report bots. It does help clean the game up and make for a better gaming experience. So thank you very much.
Known bot maps should be checked on a DAILY routine by the GM's. It's just that simple imo. This has been going on far too long to have to WAIT for a report. I don't mean a couple times a week swing through these maps. I mean EVERY DAY. There are maps that with 100% certainty there will be bots there. Why does this have to even be reported? I have recently returned to this game so I couldn't name the maps atm. But I'm sure the community could give 5 maps in a heartbeat that will have bots w/o fail on them. Why is it not possible to take an hour or less out of the daily routine and hit these maps before taking on the rest of your day?
Walk in the door, high five heim, power on my pc, make my coffee, login, go to map A, 20 bots spotted, get to banning, Map B, repeat, Map C, repeat, Map D, repeat, Map E, repeat, o wow 30minutes passed and we have 100 less bots.
Known bot maps should be checked on a DAILY routine by the GM's. It's just that simple imo. This has been going on far too long to have to WAIT for a report. I don't mean a couple times a week swing through these maps. I mean EVERY DAY. There are maps that with 100% certainty there will be bots there. Why does this have to even be reported? I have recently returned to this game so I couldn't name the maps atm. But I'm sure the community could give 5 maps in a heartbeat that will have bots w/o fail on them. Why is it not possible to take an hour or less out of the daily routine and hit these maps before taking on the rest of your day?
Walk in the door, high five heim, power on my pc, make my coffee, login, go to map A, 20 bots spotted, get to banning, Map B, repeat, Map C, repeat, Map D, repeat, Map E, repeat, o wow 30minutes passed and we have 100 less bots.
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Posted 23 July 2012 - 08:27 AM
Ok, I do want to say that I am grateful to the community members that take the time to report bots. It does help clean the game up and make for a better gaming experience. So thank you very much.
Yes! That is exactly why the topic exists. Very well worded.
As for the GMs not patrolling, oh they do. I've witnessed them botchecking first hand, so it is happening. It takes time to ban bots, longer than it does it create them sadly (in order to verify these ARE actually bots). So whilst it may look ineffective, classic isn't bad, the flow is being stemmed pretty well.
Bot checking measures have to evolve as the bots do to keep ahead of them and I am pretty sure that it's going in the correct direction, or classic would be a LOT worse. So lets appreciate that fact.
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Posted 23 July 2012 - 08:55 AM
Who were the best bot hunters in the history of Ragnarok? Get them on the job lol
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Posted 23 July 2012 - 09:21 AM
As for the GMs not patrolling, oh they do. I've witnessed them botchecking first hand, so it is happening. It takes time to ban bots, longer than it does it create them sadly (in order to verify these ARE actually bots). So whilst it may look ineffective, classic isn't bad, the flow is being stemmed pretty well.
Bot checking measures have to evolve as the bots do to keep ahead of them and I am pretty sure that it's going in the correct direction, or classic would be a LOT worse. So lets appreciate that fact.
O I have said it before and I will say it again, Classic is MILES away from the bot fest that other free servers have been and a big bravo from me to them on the preventive measures put in place thus far.
I don't dispute that bot checks are done, my only concern is the frequency. I don't believe it's being done on a daily basis, which imo, is essential. I have never banned a bot, so I am not quite sure as to how much time is involved in the process. I have however, been summoned to the prison and talked with briefly. The whole process took about 3-5 secs. I'm sure more would go into it if I was a bot but im not, so that's where it ended for me.
I don't want to discourage anyone from reporting bots as it is helpful to the community. I just dislike the idea that so much of the burden seems to weigh on the shoulders of the customers. I get the whole community watch aspect of it. Just still rubs me the wrong way.
Do I think the GM's are doing a good job with the bots? Yes. Do I think it could be better? Yes. Do I think it is MUCH BETTER than what it's been? HELL YES!
I think that sums up how I feel in a nutshell.
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Posted 23 July 2012 - 09:44 AM
Ok, well that's not a bad feeling to have.
They are done every day. I am very certain of this, I have seen and heard of bot checks all days of the week.
They are done every day. I am very certain of this, I have seen and heard of bot checks all days of the week.
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Posted 24 July 2012 - 02:30 AM
I don't want to discourage anyone from reporting bots as it is helpful to the community. I just dislike the idea that so much of the burden seems to weigh on the shoulders of the customers. I get the whole community watch aspect of it. Just still rubs me the wrong way.
Do I think the GM's are doing a good job with the bots? Yes. Do I think it could be better? Yes. Do I think it is MUCH BETTER than what it's been? HELL YES!
I think that sums up how I feel in a nutshell.
^ This.
Ok, well that's not a bad feeling to have.
They are done every day. I am very certain of this, I have seen and heard of bot checks all days of the week.
Are you asking people to trust in Gravity without so much as proof? Oh, but you've seen it, I see. You're very certain. That changes everything.
Gravity has all these invisible "limitations", but when they are used to excuse resting responsibilities on other people, that is when things smell fishy. And when the weight of these responsibilities get trivialized by so many, then it starts to reek.
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Posted 24 July 2012 - 03:17 AM
I've seen it and I've talked to some of the people working on changes to how they catch bots. So yeah I have more faith than most.
This is supposed to be a thread for helping the community help them, not sit and flame and complain. If you don't want to assist in doing better reports, the exit is to the left.
This is supposed to be a thread for helping the community help them, not sit and flame and complain. If you don't want to assist in doing better reports, the exit is to the left.
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Posted 24 July 2012 - 08:38 AM
Good guide, I was actually unaware of how to report before reading this guide, I've already succesfully reported some bots.
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Posted 26 July 2012 - 11:46 AM
Just to let you guys know the new classic server are fully of bot
and payon dun01 is a joke
and payon dun01 is a joke
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Posted 26 July 2012 - 01:55 PM
Just to let you guys know the new classic server are fully of bot
and payon dun01 is a joke
yeah, bot everywhere....and looks like now BOTS its legal at classic...
lets play Bot Online...
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Posted 26 July 2012 - 01:56 PM
there is a whole bunch of bots parked by the ship to byalan
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Posted 29 July 2012 - 09:16 AM
Prt_fild 11 the bots are the second job now...
... already order the ticket 
... already order the ticket
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Posted 29 July 2012 - 06:31 PM
Prt_fild 11 the bots are the second job now...
i doubt it....report 3 sohee bot two days ago, and untill now they still botting at the same place.
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Posted 30 July 2012 - 05:59 AM
I got tired of ordering ticket i to spend my a little time on taking photos of each of them i aser a list.
I do not bring anything more
the winning bots again
"there is no worse blind person than the one that he does not want to see"
(phrase of the bible)
I do not bring anything more
the winning bots again
"there is no worse blind person than the one that he does not want to see"
(phrase of the bible)
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Posted 30 July 2012 - 06:38 AM
This is not a bot rant thread, it is how and what to do about reporting bots.
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Posted 31 July 2012 - 08:42 PM
Who were the best bot hunters in the history of Ragnarok? Get them on the job lol
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Posted 04 August 2012 - 02:01 PM
The bots that kill steal and loot me really give themselves away. 
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Posted 05 August 2012 - 12:47 PM
All reports are investigated, its also the weekend which is the slowest time during the week so it will take a day or longer.
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Posted 05 August 2012 - 05:25 PM
mor_fild13 on Classic seems to be the prime map for gank bots to power level. There are thieves everywhere, yet they don't pick up loot.
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Posted 08 August 2012 - 01:09 AM
Dancer and Bard bots are also leveling on dokebis. With the server so new, it's annoyingly difficult to tell the diff between zeny farmer and player bots sometimes
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