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#26 Riakuta

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 06:46 PM

I would hope sorc too lol. I am pretty sure I could outpot hibram'd sorc anything even if they were spamming the crap out of MA scrolls


While you are Crystalized and cannot use potions O_O?
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 08:24 PM

I cheat and carry 100% water resist for sorcs that deal dps that isn't garbage tbh.
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 08:28 PM

I would hope sorc too lol. I am pretty sure I could outpot hibram'd sorc anything even if they were spamming the crap out of MA scrolls


same here, hence why hibram sorc on smokies don't even hurt.

There's a build for damage on sorc, the one you have is more hibrid than anything else... don't get me wrong, I'm not saying is bad, but is not meant to deal damage.
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 08:30 PM

I'm just gonna throw out there I can kill a large chunk of people and I have 60 base int on my sorc with a +9 vellum wand and no buffs. There are plenty of garbage players out there that die to retarded stuff but it's better to just play supporty and let those people die to 1 DB
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 08:34 PM

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 08:38 PM

calculating against trash targets would be pointless anyway those people are literally there to cause lag and stack on top of you while you do important -_-.
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 08:41 PM

pretty much xD
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 09:01 PM

I know right? anyway, I always consider "worst-case scenarios" for my calculations and my data... therefore I assume the damage that I manage to deal is always against afrikan system-like players.


I'm semi I'm more support, but I can deal damage only if I need to meaning I can play precast and support. A hybrid build that doesn't exceed in either, but exceeds in doing both. I must note building an Adoramous WOE Arch Bishop is not the same thing it is worse by an un-describable amount.
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Posted 22 January 2013 - 03:23 AM

I have 102 mdef and it's pretty awesome

This game is getting boring :p_sad:
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Posted 22 January 2013 - 12:46 PM

I'm semi I'm more support, but I can deal damage only if I need to meaning I can play precast and support. A hybrid build that doesn't exceed in either, but exceeds in doing both. I must note building an Adoramous WOE Arch Bishop is not the same thing it is worse by an un-describable amount.


I don't know... as hybrid sorc, it will be difficult for you to actually deal good damage and yet you don't have the proper gear to fulfill both roles.

Remember that most of your spells are INT based and unless you have 117 INT or higher, your spells won't hurt much (sorc spells doesn't hurt to begin with, it will mostly depend on crystallization).

I believe that if you start using +10 food constantly, you would be able to save 10 skill points that can be used elsewhere. Switching armor/staff/accessories won't be a bad idea as well (I switch around 5-6 gears everytime I cast/release a spell and when I'm walking around).

Perhaps you should try to focus on 1 task first, and then focus on the other side of the coin... after getting used to both scenarios, you will be able to mix both builds into a real hybrid build, this time, with the experience necessary to do such task.
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Posted 22 January 2013 - 12:50 PM

it depends... fbh is as good as the player who wear it...

Sorcerers from Smokies/Valk alliance are a good example of how not to use fallen bishop on Sorcerers... even with those fallen bishops, they suck... I kinda feel sorry for the cards... while in a good sorc such as Kevin or I (even thou I dont play it), we do make a difference... same with our warlocks.

Your set is good, I have +100mdef set along with offensive skills and over upgrade staff... but that's cuz I'm hybrid build (most offensive than defensive even with that mdef).

Trust me, those sorcs are a lot better than you are. Even in your own WOE videos, I see them 1 shooting you with one psychic wave.
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Posted 22 January 2013 - 12:55 PM

Trust me, those sorcs are a lot better than you are. Even in your own WOE videos, I see them 1 shooting you with one psychic wave.


Riiiigggttthhhh... how can someone trust whatever you said when no one knows who you are or capable of? and that's just the tip of the iceberg...

In any case, as candyz said, 102mdef is kinda top line for any mage/aco class nowdays... and it gets better after few more kRO patches =)
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Posted 22 January 2013 - 12:57 PM

^Don't deny the truth.
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Posted 22 January 2013 - 01:06 PM

I'm not quite sure what truths is the one you are referring to... perhaps in the alternative universe in where your alliance actually can beat a 40 man guild?

In any case, doubt this has anything to do with the topic... and doubt people will ever believe whatever you said because there's no proof to backup your statement... and the fact that no one cares whatever you might say.

If you have something constructive to post, I believe you should do so, otherwise, keep your hallucinations for yourself or someone who cares =)

And yes Viri, I do see what you meant back then.
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Posted 22 January 2013 - 01:14 PM

Shadow Chaser.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 01:32 PM

oda i think your ban button is broken..

And Tomato, your build looks more damage oriented. If you want to be more supporty without compromising your damage too much, you should drop your dex and add it into agi / luk. Your dex is unnecessarily high for an RWC defaulter. Maybe if you were running 100mdef I could see the justification for so much dex.
i wouldn't expect to kill a whole lot with that build, but I guess any damage is better than none in some cases.

To tie in to your original post: I think you should go for a 100mdef gear set with GR / DR. Pretty OP on a support mage since EC is crazy good. You can gear switch to a RWC when you want the cast boost.

And haseo you are in no position to talk about having non-constructive posts. I swear any time I see a post by you, no matter what forum, no matter what topic, you're crying about Valk/Smokies. If we're so bad, why do I sense pain coming from your gluteal region?

Edited by Azyrk, 22 January 2013 - 01:34 PM.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 02:17 PM

I'm not quite sure what truths is the one you are referring to... perhaps in the alternative universe in where your alliance actually can beat a 40 man guild?

In any case, doubt this has anything to do with the topic... and doubt people will ever believe whatever you said because there's no proof to backup your statement... and the fact that no one cares whatever you might say.

If you have something constructive to post, I believe you should do so, otherwise, keep your hallucinations for yourself or someone who cares =)

And yes Viri, I do see what you meant back then.

Look through your old videos with Hooligans.
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Posted 22 January 2013 - 03:33 PM

[mod]<Oda's Translation: I am sorry for my churlish actions in any guild related thread. Just can't help m'self! I promise that I will control my self much better when I am allowed back on the forums, in three days hence. See ya later!!!!>[/mod]


Owned.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 03:45 PM

[mod]<Oda's Translation: I am sorry for my churlish actions in any guild related thread. Just can't help m'self! I promise that I will control my self much better when I am allowed back on the forums, in three days hence. See ya later!!!!>[/mod]

LMAOOOO! You're too funny Oda ^__^
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Posted 22 January 2013 - 04:28 PM

Well done Oda.
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Posted 23 January 2013 - 11:43 AM

Haseo's build is more damage oriented, no defense. So when he gets caught by CRS he drops 1 hit. I am not talking trash here just from experience, whenever I see him I make sure to wait till he releases his comet then backslide CI/RC him it doesnt take 3 tries.
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Posted 23 January 2013 - 11:46 AM

[mod]<Oda's Translation: I am sorry for my churlish actions in any guild related thread. Just can't help m'self! I promise that I will control my self much better when I am allowed back on the forums, in three days hence. See ya later!!!!>[/mod]

ROFL STOMPED.
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Posted 23 January 2013 - 12:43 PM

I think I'd like to try Riakuta's setup on a WoE linker.
Running around giving everyone cancer would be so awesome especially in WoE1 castle's where it is super easy to jump over a wall and be gone.
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#49 Riakuta

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 12:53 PM

I think I'd like to try Riakuta's setup on a WoE linker.
Running around giving everyone cancer would be so awesome especially in WoE1 castle's where it is super easy to jump over a wall and be gone.


Might want to use Orc Hero Glasses instead of 3D Glasses :D.
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Posted 23 January 2013 - 12:57 PM

I ain't got that kinda zeny, but I agree with the recommendation.
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