Ninja Gear Enchants

Edited by DrAzzy, 25 February 2013 - 12:09 PM.

Edited by DrAzzy, 09 February 2013 - 11:11 PM.

the DEF enchants help for dual daggers w/o shield

No they don't. Have you seen how little damage reduction def gives?

Earth Charms increase E.Def from what I've heard... If you stack enough high-refine armor, you may have some significant E.Def boost with Earth Charms.

Spoiler

It doesn't show in the status window any more than a hydra card does.

Edited by Riakuta, 11 February 2013 - 09:10 AM.

It doesn't give Equipment Def it gives +% of Equipment Def.

After testing seems to be +1% Equipment Def per Earth Charm.

Care to share your testing methodology?

I ask because this sounds like a real pain to test with any level of accuracy.

Those numbers aren't consistent with the formulas for def (the ones without the charms up). Damage number for 75 equip def is about 10 lower than expected from that 0 def one.

You are doing this on a character that has vit (soft defense), i think. This is throwing off the results. You need to do it on a Kag/Obo with 1 vit, to remove that confounding influence. Or possibly you forgot about some piece of gear that is giving a bit of reduction?

Edited by Riakuta, 11 February 2013 - 10:52 AM.

Sorry I have 77 Soft Def.

Side Note: Could have been 75 Equipment Def or 79 Equipment Def.

Had my Guillotine attack me with no weapon.

0 Equipment Def - 295
0 Equipment Def + 10 Earth Charms - 295
75 Equipment Def - 244
75 Equipment Def + 10 Earth Charms - 223.

Edited by Jaye, 11 February 2013 - 11:16 AM.

So if the DEF went from 75 to 100, that is a 20% increase.

I am doing the math wrong

Edited by DrAzzy, 11 February 2013 - 11:18 AM.

33%

But I think the dataset we're working with here is flawed anyway. I don't have earth charm yet though (and won't, until I can get a +9 KK CoD to level my ninja with, because he sucks without the 29% extra cast reduc), and I already have vit on my Kag anyway. It should be tested on a 1-vit kag if at all possible.

Edited by Jaye, 11 February 2013 - 11:19 AM.

Edited by DrAzzy, 11 February 2013 - 11:24 AM.

Riakuta is tomato? Is that the same one in CS?

Something I've been wondering about with magic builds is, wouldn't you only need 16th Night and an Isilla card to essentially have perma instant cast? I don't know why you'd need any other gears that involve cast time reduction unless the cast time reductions don't stack like I'm thinking.

Also, regarding the original post, have you been able to test with the Petal Shuriken (the pink one)? When I tried to enchant on Sakray, I only ever got +6 def out of a number of attempts, so I assumed it was just bugged on Sakray.