Edited by Jen1oak, 13 February 2013 - 10:20 PM.
Best Weapons for NINJA for PVP/WOE? *Updated Sorry* lol
#1
Posted 13 February 2013 - 08:46 PM
#2
Posted 13 February 2013 - 08:53 PM
#3
Posted 13 February 2013 - 09:14 PM
#4
Posted 13 February 2013 - 09:15 PM
#5
Posted 13 February 2013 - 10:20 PM
Specify a little bit more please.
#6
Posted 14 February 2013 - 04:40 AM
#7
Posted 14 February 2013 - 05:22 AM
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Posted 14 February 2013 - 08:59 AM
#9
Posted 14 February 2013 - 09:01 AM
#10
Posted 14 February 2013 - 09:09 AM
#11
Posted 14 February 2013 - 09:26 AM
Don't waste your money on this class. It's only good for Chaser to copy the skill Rapid Throw.
What makes you say that? I think the class is really good. It's good pvm with eventually bring able to 1 shot scarabas with kunai explosion and me doing 24k at 101 with it. I haven't gotten high enough to test pvp with it yet but I can assure you classes like sura and rk will have trouble killing them. KS has great potential with higher hp and ability to dual wield. Overall I think it's a class that can compete with 3rd jobs.
Edited by Joshiji, 14 February 2013 - 09:27 AM.
#12
Posted 14 February 2013 - 09:32 AM
Where do I start. Their have limited gears. They are not trans classes so they are missing out on the huge HP and stats bonuses. KS is only good against people with crappy gears. Most people with Ghost WOE set won't die to it. Rapid throw can't one shot people in WOE unless the person getting hit really suck. In PVP it can only one shot 50% of the people. I see many chaser having to cast rapid throw 5-8 times for it to proc. Chaser may be bad you say? Sure it all looks great on paper, but in my humble opinion I think that they are still at the bottom of the food chain. AND LET THE DEBATE BEGINS!What makes you say that? I think the class is really good. It's good pvm with eventually bring able to 1 shot scarabas with kunai explosion and me doing 24k at 101 with it. I haven't gotten high enough to test pvp with it yet but I can assure you classes like sura and rk will have trouble killing them. KS has great potential with higher hp and ability to dual wield. Overall I think it's a class that can compete with 3rd jobs.
Edited by ilovemilk, 14 February 2013 - 09:34 AM.
#13
Posted 14 February 2013 - 10:06 AM
Where do I start. Their have limited gears. They are not trans classes so they are missing out on the huge HP and stats bonuses. KS is only good against people with crappy gears. Most people with Ghost WOE set won't die to it. Rapid throw can't one shot people in WOE unless the person getting hit really suck. In PVP it can only one shot 50% of the people. I see many chaser having to cast rapid throw 5-8 times for it to proc. Chaser may be bad you say? Sure it all looks great on paper, but in my humble opinion I think that they are still at the bottom of the food chain. AND LET THE DEBATE BEGINS!
the limited gears will change in later updates, there will be other versions of things like Variants (Variant [1] hp/sp +12% increase def/mdef per refine...sooooooooo +9 variants with firelock anyone?)
right now oboro is not all that great in WoE, later on however they might be.
#14
Posted 14 February 2013 - 10:27 AM
Won't even kill a warlock that doesn't have energy coat up.
12% more HP from variants won't change that.
Also, bad news, genetics, RGs, etc, have 80% demi not 70%, and 300+ def, I was being too generous above.
Edited by Jaye, 14 February 2013 - 10:28 AM.
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Posted 14 February 2013 - 11:20 AM
#16
Posted 14 February 2013 - 02:37 PM
#17
Posted 14 February 2013 - 02:45 PM
Something must be wrong with your calc or your using the worst gears cause I got it up to 35k and 25K against GR users with woe sets.Killing Stroke has no potential. I was able to calc it up to 200k or so damage, (WITH A TAO GUNKA) which is way less than Gfist, and unlike gfist, KS is reduced by enemy DEF status. Even an amazing 200k gfist from a 60k+ HP Kagerou is 200 * 0.6 (woe reduct) = 120k * 0.7 (anyone with decent [200+] DEF) = 84k * 0.3 (anyone with woe set and CEB/hanky) = 25.2k * 0.8 (immune or noxious garment-- ALMOST EVERYONE) = 20.16k
Won't even kill a warlock that doesn't have energy coat up.
12% more HP from variants won't change that.
Also, bad news, genetics, RGs, etc, have 80% demi not 70%, and 300+ def, I was being too generous above.
#18
Posted 14 February 2013 - 03:03 PM
Wow, how do you know how much you're doing in woe? Got a hack?Something must be wrong with your calc or your using the worst gears cause I got it up to 35k and 25K against GR users with woe sets.
#19
Posted 14 February 2013 - 03:24 PM
Something must be wrong with your calc or your using the worst gears cause I got it up to 35k and 25K against GR users with woe sets.
Wasn't that test in PvP though.
#20
Posted 14 February 2013 - 03:32 PM
(it should be 41~58k in PVP if its 25~35k in woe)
Edited by Jaye, 14 February 2013 - 03:33 PM.
#21
Posted 14 February 2013 - 07:48 PM
others say +12kvm gladius + icepick..
i really dont knoww
just asking about the weapons. i guess i can handle the rest hehe. coz getting Glorious Weapon costs 2k KVM and its not easy to obtain it and if i get that.. and will just eventually find out other weapons are better.. that would be a waste. so just want to make sure ^_^
#22
Posted 14 February 2013 - 11:26 PM
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Posted 15 February 2013 - 07:58 PM
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Posted 16 February 2013 - 08:41 AM
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