Kunai Splash

Woops was clicking Reply and gave you a +1, but it takes over Kunai Element. That's why its popular to use Fire Kunai + Earth Charms on Earth Property monsters.

Edited by Jaye, 08 February 2013 - 08:35 AM.

shuriken might be better but only against big sized, the rest modifiers are same as dagger

Edited by IsisThump, 08 February 2013 - 11:21 AM.

Since we're comparing huumas vs. daggers, I have a question.

On permeters, which are medium and neutral 2, with two neutral element daggers I do around 5.8~6.2k. The total attack is 139+373.

However on permeters with a +4 Huuma Blaze Shuriken (139+266) I do around 6.7k.

Why is it that the Huuma does more damage?

Note: I'm using 9 earth spirits, so none of the weapons are of the Earth element.

Also for Kunai Throw, and the aoes, would it just then be better to +9 the Huuma, or get two +9 Grimtooths with ranged enchantments?

+9 Grimtooth Expert Archer 4 Expert Archer 4 / Triple Glamorous Boned Main Gauge
Would be your best damage against Permeter & Solider.

The attack from the off hand weapon only applies to auto attacks not skills.

Oh that's so wack

So the increased attack doesn't affect skills, but racial cards affect skills?

Does it also apply to daggers with matk? (a.k.a. Exploding Dragon won't use the matk from the off-hand in it's formula?)

Edited by Riakuta, 08 February 2013 - 01:50 PM.

Hm I was testing it, and wouldn't a x4 AS Main Gauche be better as an off-hand weapon? I went from 21k to 29k on Soliders, and having x4 AS MG would be much more general than having an MG for every monster type and size

Well i just figured the size would be a lot cheaper, but yea Quadruple Kingbird Main Gauge FTW.

Proof of kunai splash not being ranged and thus not being affected by archer skeleton cards

Woops I was hung over on the wrong skill . I was thinking Kunai Explosion.

Is Splash Kunai supposed to be melee or ranged? I mean its probably bugged or something right?

Edited by Riakuta, 08 February 2013 - 11:29 PM.

Proof of kunai splash not being ranged and thus not being affected by archer skeleton cards

i might be missing something... but im not seeing "proof" of it being melee... i see 2 screen shots using the same weapon doing the same damage... if it was 2 different weapons in the screen shots that would be more proof... even on sakkray at 150 the damage from splash was kinda "meh"...

Anything that hits 4 cells and over except Magic is considered "Ranged" so I'm assuming for now Kunai Splash may be bugged or be based off the mechanics of Suicidal Destruction Physical AoE with enough range to be considered "Ranged", but counted as a Melee attack instead.
Just for kicks hopefully I can position this correctly, but here its "Ranged"

+9 Grimtooth Expert Archer 4 Expert Archer 4 / Triple Glamorous Boned Main Gauge
Would be your best damage against Permeter & Solider.

The attack from the off hand weapon only applies to auto attacks not skills.

That's still pretty bad. iwas thinking of using a KvM Dagger+Ice Pick as one option against high def targets in PvP. Won't work well if one or the other has wasted atk.

I'll stick to KvM Dagger+Ck instead i guess.

My kunai explosion just do less than 2k on low TI monster. Any idea about this ? I got 100 str and 60dex atm. Tried with dual dagger and shuriken but still sucks. I saw someone with eden dagger and MG in offhand can 1 shoot em all. Help me T_T