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#26 VachV

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Posted 04 May 2013 - 02:43 PM

I just notice that you forgot to mention the skill "increase agility"
At least i don´t see it at "5. skills"


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Posted 05 May 2013 - 08:47 AM

I have another couple questions about the sample skill builds you suggest.
I was kinda torn between [Ray 5 Archangel 3] and [Ray 3 Archangel 5] builds. I've done some raw maths, and supposing you hit for 1000 magic damage, the first build gives 1390 + 208.5 = 1598.5 magic damage, while in the second build magic damage is 1170 + 292.5 = 1462.5. I come out with the obvious [Ray 4 Archangel 4] middle way, with maths saying 1280 + 256 = 1536 magic damage, right in the middle as it was easy to suppose.
So I was wondering if it's actually worth to sacrifice points to get a [Ray 5 Archangel 5] build, for a 1390 + 347.5 = 1737.5 grand total of magic damage, which means 139 (10%) more damage compared to [Ray 5 Archangel 3] build. So, I'm asking if 10% more Ray matk is worth sacrificing two points in Crescent, or one in Crescent and one in Reno.
My other question is about PVE, and the times you get mobbed vs the times you fight 1vs1. I notice you left all of the AoE skills at lvl 1; is it enough to fulfill mid to high mob situations, if there are any, in this game?

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 03:56 PM

I have another couple questions about the sample skill builds you suggest.
I was kinda torn between [Ray 5 Archangel 3] and [Ray 3 Archangel 5] builds. I've done some raw maths, and supposing you hit for 1000 magic damage, the first build gives 1390 + 208.5 = 1598.5 magic damage, while in the second build magic damage is 1170 + 292.5 = 1462.5. I come out with the obvious [Ray 4 Archangel 4] middle way, with maths saying 1280 + 256 = 1536 magic damage, right in the middle as it was easy to suppose.
So I was wondering if it's actually worth to sacrifice points to get a [Ray 5 Archangel 5] build, for a 1390 + 347.5 = 1737.5 grand total of magic damage, which means 139 (10%) more damage compared to [Ray 5 Archangel 3] build. So, I'm asking if 10% more Ray matk is worth sacrificing two points in Crescent, or one in Crescent and one in Reno.

Sacrifising Reno is not worth, since max reno is kinda must in raids. But you can always take 2 points off credo(cresent) for max AA and RAY as AA will balance off the loss of the DOT and increase heal. And in PVP, max AA + max RAY will have more punch on KS. Drawback of AA is, you will have 2/3 idle time with AA, so final outcome will be more or less the same i think.

My other question is about PVE, and the times you get mobbed vs the times you fight 1vs1. I notice you left all of the AoE skills at lvl 1; is it enough to fulfill mid to high mob situations, if there are any, in this game?

Yes, level 1 will be sufficient. Magn. Exorcismus has 1 second cast time which kills the effectiveness of it mostly unlike other classes. Judex level 1 and level 3 difference is too low with the base damage being too low to make use of it. Best use would be to have both at level 1 and allocate skills on other more important skills.
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Posted 05 May 2013 - 07:43 PM

5.3 Sample skill builds
Followings are some sample builds to guide you through.

http://www.ro2skills...BdDrbeBeBdBkbqA
http://www.ro2skills...eBdDrbeEeA1boqA
http://www.ro2skills...EeBdDrbeFeA2oqA
http://www.ro2skills...FeBdDrbeEeA2oqA
http://www.ro2skills...BdDrbeBebdBqBqA


Hey! Which is your personal favourite build, or most used build? Thanks. :)
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Posted 05 May 2013 - 08:18 PM

Hey! Which is your personal favourite build, or most used build? Thanks. :)


All of them are acceptable. I would choose 2nd one if I want to be more supportive, or 3rd if I want to be more aggressive.
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Posted 08 May 2013 - 03:27 PM

Great guide, i have a question.

I would recommand, one of the following two.
Int - 49, VIT - 31, AGL - 0
Int - 36, AGL - 36, VIT - 25

Having higher VIT will reward in many ways.
Your job as a healer in a raid is to keep the MT/OT alive.
If MT dies, then the whole party is in big trouble.
To keep the MT alive you should be alive right? When a boss aoe, or when adds spawn around a boss, with lower HP, you will be concerning your own HP rather than healing the MT. This is one reason why many raids fail in the end game.
My advice.. always go for VIT build as a priest.

When you start upping your stats, start with INT always and up it until 36. From there you can decide for which build you will goto. At lower stats, your crit rate is really low. Thus no point spending points on AGL at the start of the game. Also until you are level 50, your VIT wont matter much in normal dungeons. So INT first, then decide your build.


So does that mean i should only level INT as i level until it reaches 36 INT then start raising VIT and AGL? Or should i go raise either of those as i am raising INT?
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Posted 08 May 2013 - 04:30 PM

Great guide, i have a question.



So does that mean i should only level INT as i level until it reaches 36 INT then start raising VIT and AGL? Or should i go raise either of those as i am raising INT?


Thankz.

Yes you are correct. Raise int to 36 first, since with high int you will get high MATK hense easy to farm. Then if you go for 36-36-25 build, get AGL, as crits will help you on the way. Finally get on VIT.

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 05:17 PM

Thankz.

Yes you are correct. Raise int to 36 first, since with high int you will get high MATK and since easy to farm. Then if you go for 36-36-25 build, get AGL, as crits will help you on the way. Finally get on VIT.


Oh ok, I just wanted to make sure that i'm not messing anything up by not adding VIT until i raise the INT to 36 at least. Since i wasn't sure if i would be fine with the initlal HP rather then getting more from the VIT early on. Especially since i don't plan on buying a stat reset, so i just want to make sure i am doing everything i can right the first time.
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Posted 08 May 2013 - 09:27 PM

Oh ok, I just wanted to make sure that i'm not messing anything up by not adding VIT until i raise the INT to 36 at least. Since i wasn't sure if i would be fine with the initlal HP rather then getting more from the VIT early on. Especially since i don't plan on buying a stat reset, so i just want to make sure i am doing everything i can right the first time.


Good luck. If you have any problems related, let me know.
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Posted 10 May 2013 - 08:03 AM

Thanks a lot for the guide! It was very helpful indeed.
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Posted 10 May 2013 - 08:35 AM

Does ME+Aspersio DOT (Oratio, right?) get affected by original Oratio skill lvl? :)

Edited by soosel, 10 May 2013 - 11:06 AM.

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 10:32 AM

I have bought a skill reset to try your ideas, it is the most appealing hybrid guide I have found. I would however like to stay even more on support side and have points in both Heal and HH, dropping one of the damage skills. I assue the correct choice here would be to drop Adoramus, with Crescent + GR maxed? Could you share your thoughts on that?

Second question is - a lot other guides recommend HL level 5 over GR. Indeed it is a better single target DPS and allows you to take Gloria, which further improves you HL spam, as well as your Heal spam. So far however I enjoy the mobility that GR offers. Could you share your thoughts on that as well?

Thanks again for great guide!

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 09:17 PM

how about this for Hybrid -http://www.ro2skillsim.com/class/pri.html?10dBeBdDebhSeBdnboqA

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 09:47 AM

current build (lv33):
http://www.ro2skills...BeBdDkBqBdA2odA

future build (lv50):
http://www.ro2skills...BdDkBqBeBdBqBqA


any suggestion please?
i find there are a lot people who left heal lv4 cause "isn't much different" than lv5, so i think lv3 will be in the same way, right?

about sanctuary, i think is very circumstantial (unlike HH), but still pretty useful... actually i am confused about archangel vs heal or maybe ray of genesis, who i should leave lv3?

edit: end stats 36 int, 36 agi and 25 vit ofc, but what do u think about 33,33,32 or even 34,32,32? (int,vit,agi)

btw ty for the guide, its helping me a lot :D

Edited by jochy, 12 May 2013 - 10:31 AM.

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 03:41 PM

Does ME+Aspersio DOT (Oratio, right?) get affected by original Oratio skill lvl? :)


Yes it does.
ME level doesnt matter. Only Oratio level matters.

For an example,
Player A : ME lvl 3, Oratio lvl 4
Player B: ME lvl 1, Oratio lvl 4

ME+Aspersio, player A and B both will deal same damage.
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Posted 12 May 2013 - 04:01 PM

I have bought a skill reset to try your ideas, it is the most appealing hybrid guide I have found. I would however like to stay even more on support side and have points in both Heal and HH, dropping one of the damage skills. I assue the correct choice here would be to drop Adoramus, with Crescent + GR maxed? Could you share your thoughts on that?

Yes, thats correct.

Second question is - a lot other guides recommend HL level 5 over GR. Indeed it is a better single target DPS and allows you to take Gloria, which further improves you HL spam, as well as your Heal spam. So far however I enjoy the mobility that GR offers. Could you share your thoughts on that as well?

Without GR, your success in PVP-cols will be greatly diminished. PVP is all about KillShot. When coliseum starts soon, you will realize that you do all the hard work with HL maxed, and someone easily steals your skill with a far superior KillShot (eyeballing sorcs). If you want to get coliseum gears faster, i suggest having GR maxed. Secondly, after level 50, you wouldnt be using HL much anyways. Also even if you want to farm some cards(STC, Poisona etc..), you are better off with DOT+GR. Also with DOTs you have more freedom to farm several mobs at a time.

As for healing, taking points off attack tree and putting on healing will help undoubtedly. But being able to acquire pvp gears fast will help your raid progression. With HL5 without any other attack skills, you will almost never win pvp championship i think(unless all other players who came to last round are super retards).

Thanks again for great guide!

you are welcome.

Edited by VachV, 12 May 2013 - 04:02 PM.

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 04:06 PM

how about this for Hybrid -http://www.ro2skillsim.com/class/pri.html?10dBeBdDebhSeBdnboqA


It s ok. However i suggest either max Heal or HH(preferably max Heal and leave HH at lvl 1). To make it so, take points of Adoramus. Better put points on adoramus. If you are not maxing adoramus, it is better to allocate points on Oratio than adoramus due to instant cast time.
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Posted 12 May 2013 - 04:14 PM

current build (lv33):
http://www.ro2skills...BeBdDkBqBdA2odA

future build (lv50):
http://www.ro2skills...BdDkBqBeBdBqBqA


any suggestion please?
i find there are a lot people who left heal lv4 cause "isn't much different" than lv5, so i think lv3 will be in the same way, right?

about sanctuary, i think is very circumstantial (unlike HH), but still pretty useful... actually i am confused about archangel vs heal or maybe ray of genesis, who i should leave lv3?

edit: end stats 36 int, 36 agi and 25 vit ofc, but what do u think about 33,33,32 or even 34,32,32? (int,vit,agi)

btw ty for the guide, its helping me a lot :D


nobody wanna give me some extra tips about my build? :(
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Posted 12 May 2013 - 04:52 PM

nobody wanna give me some extra tips about my build? :(


Sorry will post reply soon. (at work now.. Posting as soon as I get free time)
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Posted 12 May 2013 - 05:13 PM

uhm... its ok ._.

i know u are triying to help every1 with this post :D
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Posted 12 May 2013 - 05:26 PM

How important is Recovery?
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Posted 12 May 2013 - 06:47 PM

current build (lv33):
http://www.ro2skills...BeBdDkBqBdA2odA

future build (lv50):
http://www.ro2skills...BdDkBqBeBdBqBqA


any suggestion please?


I suggest you take 2 points off either ArchAngel or Highness Heal and reallocate those 2 points on Heal. Other than that, it s pretty decent build.


i find there are a lot people who left heal lv4 cause "isn't much different" than lv5, so i think lv3 will be in the same way, right?


Those people are wrong actually. From level 4 to 5 there is 10%((43-40)/30 * 100%) improvement in healing compared to level 1. Also level 5 has 7.5%((43-40)/40 * 100%) improvement in healing. Meaning if a player with level 4 heals 1000 in heal, with level 5 he could heal 1075 per heal.
If you compare level 3 and 5. Level 5 has 23.3% more heal compared to level 1. And that is 19.4% increase in heal compared to level 3.
Basically if you manage to heal 1000 with level 3 heal, had you got level 5 you could have healed 1194 per heal.
This might well have impact on your reputation of you being "decent" priest. My purpose of this guide to make sure that hybrid priests are performing their job as healers whilst ace-ing PVP aspects.

So, NO level 3 and level 5 have very big difference in healing..

about sanctuary, i think is very circumstantial (unlike HH), but still pretty useful... actually i am confused about archangel vs heal or maybe ray of genesis, who i should leave lv3?

edit: end stats 36 int, 36 agi and 25 vit ofc, but what do u think about 33,33,32 or even 34,32,32? (int,vit,agi)

btw ty for the guide, its helping me a lot :D


Definitely sanc should be left at level 1. We use this to gain that 15% bonus hp with aspersio.
If you are so keen on having HH at level 5, the i suggest you take 2 points off ArchAngel and putting it on Heal. Like i explained, from my point of view, heal level 5 is almost a must in late game dungeons.



edit: end stats 36 int, 36 agi and 25 vit ofc, but what do u think about 33,33,32 or even 34,32,32? (int,vit,agi)

btw ty for the guide, its helping me a lot :D


Up to you. With full RHM gears, 36-36-25 will give you 14-15% crit.. Will go up as you gain more gears. Basically stats is totally upto you. As you continue to gain more epic gears and cards, basic stats becomes less and less important.

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 06:55 PM

How important is Recovery?


Having recovery at level is more than enough. Since you mainly focus on keeping MT alive, to remove some paiful debuffs off him will help your role in keeping him alive. But it is an optional thing. I think allocating more than 1 point is waste of skill points for a hybrid build.
However you are intending to allocate one point on it, then i suggest you go down all the way till ArchAngel and allocate 3-5 points there.
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Posted 13 May 2013 - 06:52 AM

can i take some maths and theorycraft about this post and translate to a guide for spanish community?

ofc i am going to use my personal experience too, but i need some quotes :P
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Posted 13 May 2013 - 08:09 AM

can i take some maths and theorycraft about this post and translate to a guide for spanish community?

ofc i am going to use my personal experience too, but i need some quotes :P


Sure be my guest. If possible give some credit to me in ur post hehe. :heh:
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