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Posted 21 October 2010 - 02:21 PM

I like more points in Rake Nail - I think it's +312 damage at L10 - a crit from that in PvP can help get a kill on someone retreating out of range of your main skills.
Whereas Bloody Arrow is +98ish (?) damage for L10 - waste.

I'm really tempted to completely get rid of Invisibility, 10 skill points and 10 DNA in there atm, and it seems to make squat-all difference.
I only really play my defi when a party needs another AOE so I don't take many hits anyways, and in PvP you're much more likely to get hit by casters than physical attackers - ie no use for evasion.

Talking of full damage builds, I think Blood Moon is worth the points - another skill to spam between Terms of Service, BS, DF, that hits 6 (maybe more at higher level?) mobs... It may be melee range, but if I'm going to use Curse Effect I have to get close anyways.

I took Binding Soul too - being on Hammy we do the odd bit of involuntary PvP ie when some lowlife jumps you and tries to PK.... Just Binding Soul (lovely instant cast :) ), Terms of Service, laugh at noob.
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Posted 21 October 2010 - 02:24 PM

I like more points in Rake Nail - I think it's +312 damage at L10 - a crit from that in PvP can help get a kill on someone retreating out of range of your main skills.
Whereas Bloody Arrow is +98ish (?) damage for L10 - waste.

I'm really tempted to completely get rid of Invisibility, 10 skill points and 10 DNA in there atm, and it seems to make squat-all difference.
I only really play my defi when a party needs another AOE so I don't take many hits anyways, and in PvP you're much more likely to get hit by casters than physical attackers - ie no use for evasion.

Talking of full damage builds, I think Blood Moon is worth the points - another skill to spam between Terms of Service, BS, DF, that hits 6 (maybe more at higher level?) mobs... It may be melee range, but if I'm going to use Curse Effect I have to get close anyways.

I took Binding Soul too - being on Hammy we do the odd bit of involuntary PvP ie when some lowlife jumps you and tries to PK.... Just Binding Soul (lovely instant cast :) ), Terms of Service, laugh at noob.


ba and rake nail max so y hack and have 18 points more then the others??

i dont have this points -.-
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Posted 21 October 2010 - 02:30 PM

Eh? I currently have L5 on BA and Rake Nail. My defi is L65 btw.

I don't have max points on all the Defiler skills, just enough to get them to max targets / range for now.

However my L66 Domi does have both bolts maxed, and with Rake Nail you can really tell the difference!
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Posted 21 October 2010 - 02:45 PM

I love the range dna on AoR. I can pull all the mobs in the first room of PD with one hit. Also very useful in PvP.
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Posted 21 October 2010 - 02:51 PM

Much to the dismay of sins :)
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Posted 21 October 2010 - 02:54 PM

haha yeah, once in a gvg I was chasing after a sin, he was running away to restealth. He restealthed so I target the person that was in his area and AoR....hitting both and unstealthing the sin :)
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Posted 21 October 2010 - 04:43 PM

Yea defiler is just awesome. We all need to get s2 despair set, new aoe DNA(which are totally stupid) and an evasion fix. Such a fun class to play, aoe kings :)
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Posted 21 October 2010 - 04:53 PM

Meh, of all the sets available s2 despair is my dream set. We have yet to down robo though, keep :) dc'ing or missing maint by 3%.
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Posted 21 October 2010 - 05:21 PM

I remember seeing pants for 6m a long time ago. I didn't kknow it upped differently from tyrant set so I didn't bother q.q
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Posted 21 October 2010 - 10:24 PM

bitch won't drop me anything anymore ;_;
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Posted 22 October 2010 - 02:17 PM

Looking back, we were all total noobs for thinking 75 :) was actually any good for most classes, ey?.
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Posted 22 October 2010 - 02:29 PM

Looking back, we were all total noobs for thinking 75 :) was actually any good for most classes, ey?.


Logic says that highest level armors dropping from supposed hardest boss should be the best.

Unfortunatly, Gravity's logic =/= common sense logic!
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Posted 22 October 2010 - 02:34 PM

Logic says that highest level armors dropping from supposed hardest boss should be the best.

Unfortunatly, Gravity's logic =/= common sense logic!

:) Korean Logic = Korean Math :)
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Posted 03 November 2010 - 06:18 PM

gearwise:

+15 reinforced magic jewlery if possible enchanted with ion mine skill crits.
+10 FoC sylkia armor OR +10 FoC sylkia helm and shoulders and +15 FoC nella OR + 10 FoC sylkia boots, gloves and shoulders and biskra set

weapon:
best wand you can get for ur lvl + tbf magic shield

enchants:

jewlery ion mine skill crits
armor - resists for pvp, ion mine curse dmg xeons for pve or def xeons or sth...
weapon - skill crit up III-V



Ok of the 3 sets of armor which would you recomend for MAX lvl PVP, My SH is 41 now, but i'm working on it whenever i'm not farmin FOC points on my 49 BM.... currently i'm using my BM's FOC gear to keep lvling and it's going great
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Posted 03 November 2010 - 08:12 PM

Reread the thread, I think we touch upon the best armor for defi's ingame atm somewhere. In one of these damn defi threads we do anyways.
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Posted 04 November 2010 - 04:14 AM

he had his build or???

and after patch a lot of dna change so

wait one day and reskill
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Posted 04 November 2010 - 10:11 AM

Err, the DNA for defi is idiot proof now... The build stays the same, it MAY change if aoe vamp touch is fixed and works out properly, else not.
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Posted 04 November 2010 - 10:38 PM

Well you need a lot of points to use aoe vamp touch. Takes away from aoe. If it misses and you die a couple times you will probably feel you've wasted points.

edit: I mean DNA points

Edited by Syre, 04 November 2010 - 10:42 PM.

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Posted 04 November 2010 - 10:39 PM

Drop the worthless evasion buffs and you have plenty of points.
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Posted 04 November 2010 - 10:40 PM

Drop the worthless evasion buffs and you have plenty of points.


he meant DNA pts.
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Posted 04 November 2010 - 10:40 PM

yes
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Posted 04 November 2010 - 10:41 PM

Ah ok, I don't follow the patch notes as closely lately :P

Edited by Coors, 04 November 2010 - 10:42 PM.

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Posted 04 November 2010 - 11:21 PM

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
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Posted 04 November 2010 - 11:35 PM

this is my build

i maxe bloody arrow couse you cant overwright dmg from other defiler with higher skill. and its not bad for raids when i cant use the aoe's. i dont use blessing. 1.5k eva more or less make no diffrent. (i have without it 17k eva) the melle stun is cool for pvp and pve. i can stun noob mobs tath will stun me or dont run in trap.
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Posted 04 November 2010 - 11:40 PM

You know you are missing about 12 points right?
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