Please HELP FOR SCOUT JOB ! EASY TO DIE

maybe some of you are glad of this skill updates.
But not for our scout players, this is very disappointing for us, because someone else will have an additional skill that interesting but we do not for the scout. the defense and dodge we were not as good as the first even much better than the current first. we actually got a bad defense and dodge bad!!!!!!. thats sucks !

War is currently in our Tg and Cd too easy to get killed and too fast to die!! . Maybe for you that will read this also realize HOW WEAK SCOUT NOW!!
 

I sincerely Hope improvements to scout the defenses and dodge ..

Please do something about bow scouts..

please help please help siiir 
Leonis Server .

Thankyou

Like previous post you can go full dodge..my char can up to 4.7k dodge but you are giving up offense capability..You can tank 2-3 or mostly 4 people a while..But again you cannot kill much..You only can annoy their key player like stun/debuff them..Or play trap

For now there's nothing much to do then either go full dodge or play safe and back up when opponants try to kill you.

The lack on defensive rate on bowscout bothers me aswell, there has been made some suggestions so who knows what will change.

Niels even in full dodge you have way too low dodge to make it interesting:

little math:

Scout in Glor full G7 on +55 buffs(average amount in CD) has 3.400 dodge

A Gun bourg (or in general fighters) have 2.200 accuracy +

This means you have 63.3% chance of getting hitted!

as you can see there is NO point in focusing on high dodge - all you can do is going pure glasscannon style - you don t have enaugh dodge to rely on it nor do you have enaugh damage to burst people down as we used to do it.

Edited by matthiashornauer, 18 May 2014 - 12:49 PM.

Yeah i'm aware of that, plus you will miss to much dps when you go full dodge, which already is low on scouts aswell. (besides 1 skill, but can't rely on only 1 skill either)

but all the skills we delay too long, especially stun skill too ..  its sucks -.-

how easy we are to die .....

Edited by Dwirama, 18 May 2014 - 04:00 PM.

Honestly I always find myself surviving well as a bow scout but my play style is extremely careful , as if every step I take I gotta be careful of not stepping into land mines.  However, this play style of mine makes you completely useless in CD. You can only rely on a good team and hope that your team wins if you wanna get more kills and points. Other than that, you cannot expect our presence ( bow scout ) to be a winning factor in CD. 

Niels even in full dodge you have way too low dodge to make it interesting:

 

little math:

 

Scout in Glor full G7 on +55 buffs(average amount in CD) has 3.400 dodge

 

A Gun bourg (or in general fighters) have 2.200 accuracy +

 

This means you have 63.3% chance of getting hitted!

 

as you can see there is NO point in focusing on high dodge - all you can do is going pure glasscannon style - you don t have enaugh dodge to rely on it nor do you have enaugh damage to burst people down as we used to do it.

G7 is always a bad choice if you want go completely dodge build..I know you are trying to boost up a little attack power by wearing G7 but that will not work ..G7 only gives little ap..pointless though..instead you should take all J7 and boost another 400 dodge ..much better

G7 is always a bad choice if you want go completely dodge build..I know you are trying to boost up a little attack power by wearing G7 but that will not work ..G7 only gives little ap..pointless though..instead you should take all J7 and boost another 400 dodge ..much better

yea bro u true, but we will got low accuracy and still quick to die when it's exposed to attack

Like some of the above posts, Bows Scouts can not rely on dodge to keep them alive, also they defence isn't too great. I would suggest investing in some mspeed gears so you're slightly faster then the average player. Use your range and run for your life when you see someone running towards you. And like a fellow bow scout said, Play safe

@teeboyz, I have seen so many of your posts where you claim your scout has 4.7k dodge. Probably achieved with glor and magical set fitted with j7, plus mask and back shield. but honestly, do you think its worth sacrificing other stats that would be more beneficial just to achieve that dodge? I don't think high dodge is the answer to the survivability of a scout. But who am I to question ones play style right?   every one has their own preference.

I would gladly sacrifice the dodge passive for another Impact arrow type skill if I had the choice

Edited by bl0b, 19 May 2014 - 03:48 AM.

but what should you keep running??
you all the scouts certainly want to get back to playing like the way it's usually not fun.
 of the running continuously keep you stun and got 2 hit attack and died.
we knocked you guys are too easy to die, we never can give worthwhile resistance to other jobs.

you all want to play the same way again *

Unfortunatly, bow scout don't do well in CD. The playslyle of scout who need to stay away from their targets and close to the cleric do not work well in CD. There are a lot of comments on bow scouts lately on other topics. I suggest you to read them.

But yeah, people and the dev team know that bowscout is "underpower".

Btw, bowscout is supposed to kite.

Dwirama, we know of the issues Scouts are having at this time, there has been many suggestions to improve Defense, and Dodge. BUT, I'd like to turn your attention to a topic that I have just recently posted (http://forums.warppo...out-discussion/), use this. Pitch your suggestions there. It will be an open forum to anyone who wants to participate and put their ideas down so the Scout Reps can get a consensus on what people want and don't want.  However, with that in mind, know that we may not get what we want, but at least the ideas will be out there.

Thank you.

Edited by NoobMeister, 19 May 2014 - 10:20 AM.

Like some of the above posts, Bows Scouts can not rely on dodge to keep them alive, also they defence isn't too great. I would suggest investing in some mspeed gears so you're slightly faster then the average player. Use your range and run for your life when you see someone running towards you. And like a fellow bow scout said, Play safe

 

@teeboyz, I have seen so many of your posts where you claim your scout has 4.7k dodge. Probably achieved with glor and magical set fitted with j7, plus mask and back shield. but honestly, do you think its worth sacrificing other stats that would be more beneficial just to achieve that dodge? I don't think high dodge is the answer to the survivability of a scout. But who am I to question ones play style right?   every one has their own preference.

 

I would gladly sacrifice the dodge passive for another Impact arrow type skill if I had the choice

I am answering TS's question how to survive well for now..As i also mentioned going this build will giving up offense capability..I am not forcing him either..Just a suggestion

note: if you think you can run faster than Raider you can try..When you go M-speed build means you will get hit constantly..Dont forget sometime opponent has range class as well..They are many factors you should consider..In my opinion fully dodge is the most average as its the only way to survive ..to make people miss you..Plus if you play M-speed build you are bound to stick to it..You cannot switch your eq during combat..

Edited by teeboyz, 20 May 2014 - 08:15 AM.

Bow scout aren't really meant to tank more than one..  Bow scouts are more like a support class in a war damage is pretty high 

Even going on a full dodge or full defence wont make a big difference if your going to get ganged up by 4-6 people on full buff(statbuffed)

But if your willing to sacrifice your damages for dodge or defence you might be able to tank bout 3-4 people but all you can do is annoy them and your self trying to kill them. But if your a xbow scout the advantage you have is tanking and you can also kill.

Bow scout aren't really meant to tank more than one..  Bow scouts are more like a support class in a war damage is pretty high 

Even going on a full dodge or full defence wont make a big difference if your going to get ganged up by 4-6 people on full buff(statbuffed)

But if your willing to sacrifice your damages for dodge or defence you might be able to tank bout 3-4 people but all you can do is annoy them and your self trying to kill them. But if your a xbow scout the advantage you have is tanking and you can also kill.

 That^... Rofl                   

Curiously enough, Draco no longer has xbow scouts, only bow scouts. The rare xbow scout is even more scarce than the GB or BA now.

Try playing a knight. You don't die, enemies don't die, the ally you give protection buff doesn't die.. -_- is boring yo.

I heal Pasta knight almost as much as a champ and he still dies huhu.