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#1 MingMei

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Posted 11 December 2014 - 02:32 PM

im planning on mixing some BP gears to get that PVP def and pvp def Hone 

and maybe the pvp acce

 

have anyone tried it ? how was it? 

rage strike hit me for around 60k-100k 

that is with +20 himm armors quite disappointing really... 

 

 


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#2 donchan

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Posted 11 December 2014 - 11:10 PM

Full VIT + PvP dmg decrease hone = win.  I also use T2 gloves and shoes for my SM with CLS def runes.

 


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Posted 12 December 2014 - 12:16 AM

Nothing is going to save you from a one shot, I'm sorry.

 

But to try to make yourself a little more survivable I mix T2 with a CLS (Defense) rune for my gloves and shoes.

I recently completed my Cazar set and have noticed a huge boost in my survivability after getting all 5 parts.


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Posted 12 December 2014 - 07:58 PM

Nothing is going to save you from a one shot, I'm sorry.

 

^This

 

I probably should've mentioned, my post was just a suggestion for increasing the "survivability" of an SM, not a method to prevent getting one shotted.  My main is a tank (warrior) with 90% defense and 25% pvp dmg reduction and I still get one shotted lol.  I have a decent armor rune too.


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#5 MingMei

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Posted 12 December 2014 - 08:02 PM

at the very least id like to survive getting 1 shotted by Sins from hide

Monk Asuras

 

Warriors Rage strike ill probably never survive, and they are mildly kiteable unless you get terrible delay 


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Posted 14 December 2014 - 11:31 PM

at the very least id like to survive getting 1 shotted by Sins from hide

 

You can try PvP-Def hones as mentioned above, but I doubt that this will protect you against that.

 

The reason is that thanks to a totally broken hide,  assassins can and will replace all their armor parts with Colo gear. The 5 Jehoon attack runes will net in a huge damage advantage... and who cares about the rest?

 

Warriors Rage strike ill probably never survive, and they are mildly kiteable unless you get terrible delay

 

Unlike an assassin's cross impact, a warrior has to build up rage points first to hit you with a rage strike. The best and probably only chance to stop a warrior from one-shotting is to prevent him from getting these points.

 

But in regard of balance: As soon as a Soulmaker can't be one-shotted anymore, they'll become invincible. Or what's your current cure maximum? And what's the amount of damage healed per Restore? The VCR system hasn't lead to a nerf for the Jehoon runes, but maybe upcoming gear will 'fix' that issue for you..


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#7 MingMei

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Posted 15 December 2014 - 01:07 AM

how does that work anyway

if i got 30% pvp def and he got 50% att 

will they just subtract

or would i take the 30% off his total damage 

 

ex.

is it 100k x 1.2  = 120k 

100k x 1.5 = 150k *.7 = 105k

 

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14k-15k cure 

i dont mind it being scaled down 

if that would mean being able to counter play Sins/Monks

 


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#8 Seanski

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Posted 15 December 2014 - 08:25 PM

I've already accepted the fact that 1 shot is inevitable so in woe and GM i spam detect. Although the cooldown and stun chance are disappointing too. XD. Havent tried on duels so no inputs there. If our HP dont reach 40k, i doubt we'd be able to survive the 1 shot. I like the suggestion of vit + dmg reduction.. Might give us a chance..
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Posted 15 December 2014 - 08:58 PM

how does that work anyway

if i got 30% pvp def and he got 50% att 

will they just subtract

or would i take the 30% off his total damage

 

It would take 30% off his total damage.


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Posted 15 December 2014 - 10:22 PM

It would take 30% off his total damage.

 

yeah DMG reduction buff/mechanics directly subtracts/takes out % from the FInal DMG

 

im pretty sure it works on DoTs too... just like the buff of Monks
 

and regarding the one shots... i think monk cant one shot SMs with 50k HP and 70% (8900ish def)... or 60%def + 2parts immortals with 20% CLS dmg redcution

 

still a crit from ragestrike can take out 80-100k.... or a geared Sin on Ymir still hits you about 50k-80k CI/Grimtooth (pfft)


Edited by Rafnex, 15 December 2014 - 10:30 PM.

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#11 Seanski

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Posted 17 December 2014 - 12:05 AM

So no matter what the gear or hones, 1-shot still is inevitable?
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#12 Matsuyuki

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Posted 19 December 2014 - 08:18 PM

So no matter what the gear or hones, 1-shot still is inevitable?


Basically, yes, such is the state of the game, good luck rerolling Monk or Beastmaster.


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Posted 20 December 2014 - 06:48 PM

Hehehehe... Yeah... Good luck indeed...
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