WILL SOMEBODY LISTEN PLEASE! (Mage Catastrophe II)

good to know that you are the strongest champ in game.

and in the light of that news..

you can do better though.

also mages are already the weakest class in game.

takes one raider to take you down now with awful consumption of manashield now.. its hard to cover all the crits and add to that being always targeted with long range classes.

Edited by VModCupcake, 01 June 2015 - 01:37 PM.

What trickery is this. Mage being the weakest class in the game XDDD

 LOL xD

 

 

 

good to know that you are the strongest champ in game.

and in the light of that news..

you can do better though.

 

also mages are already the weakest class in game.

takes one raider to take you down now with awful consumption of manashield now.. its hard to cover all the crits and add to that being always targeted with long range classes.

by strongest, I mean literal STR build, IE I have over 670 STR 

exactly.. and with the changes that came to Luminous set now.. everybody changing to them. its like yeah lets what skill power will do to our insanely critically strengthen skills.

i mean last game i tried in AA, OMG i was shocked.. a launcher bourg killed us literally all of us including mages with their mana shield.. in 3 aoes!!!

its like kaboom kaboom kaboom and we are all dead!

By the way.. Lumi set is pretty overrated in my opinion.. You shouldn't assume that launcher bourg or any other launcher bourg will just gear with Lumi set and go into AA/CD and deal massive amount of dmg and wipe everybody out.. I for one dont have Lumi set.. But I deal decent aoe damage.. 

by strongest, I mean literal STR build, IE I have over 670 STR 

i have got a two-handed champ of my own.

i tried max str before it was very good so far but, i mean before the changes for lumi having 30% skill power.

anyway you cant do that anymore for champs.. raiders got too much dodge though..

you need at least 250~275 up to 300 CON to have proper accuracy THAT IS using Chivalrous btw because you need that 10% accuracy.

and depending on which kind you are of champions i mean.

you can put SEN accordingly. myself i got 200 so that it would help me hit 50% of critical rating with buffs and king set and works both ways to my defense and offense.. all of that with 350 str.

and i barely manage to hit them using balanced with accuracy GEMs.

full str build will never work nowadays. you need to make sure you can deliver damage with your aoes and skills otherwise you are going to be more like a chump.

30% mana consumption on Fortified Mana Shield is too much, just wanna say that. (no rage needed)

30% mana consumption on Fortified Mana Shield is too much, just wanna say that. (no rage needed)

Agreed. it renders the whole new update that saved mages useless.

i have got a two-handed champ of my own.

i tried max str before it was very good so far but, i mean before the changes for lumi having 30% skill power.

 

anyway you cant do that anymore for champs.. raiders got too much dodge though..

you need at least 250~275 up to 300 CON to have proper accuracy THAT IS using Chivalrous btw because you need that 10% accuracy.

 

and depending on which kind you are of champions i mean.

you can put SEN accordingly. myself i got 200 so that it would help me hit 50% of critical rating with buffs and king set and works both ways to my defense and offense.. all of that with 350 str.

and i barely manage to hit them using balanced with accuracy GEMs.

 

full str build will never work nowadays. you need to make sure you can deliver damage with your aoes and skills otherwise you are going to be more like a chump.

agree'd - but my point was mainly that a great defensive built champ, with high HP, gets taken down by a group of raiders focusing them; in my personal opinion, I don't believe a muse should ever be more resilient than a champ... which until this update (which I have yet to try) -- they was far more tanky than my champ :x

Bring back 100%  Mana Shield

an Great Mage with 100% shield , is killable by 1 raider who is prepared to kill it.  proper skill setup and gear along with good timing of skills.  

My Source - i play raider everyday and i kill Mages with no problem.

but i also skilled my mage to survive raiders more so then do massive damage in AOE form.  there is resets right now. i suggest some of you try to figure out ways to do things before calling them broken on the forums.

Thanks

The guy who is sick of Nerf's for crybabys

Bring back 100%  Mana Shield

 

an Great Mage with 100% shield , is killable by 1 raider who is prepared to kill it.  proper skill setup and gear along with good timing of skills.  

 

My Source - i play raider everyday and i kill Mages with no problem.

 

but i also skilled my mage to survive raiders more so then do massive damage in AOE form.  there is resets right now. i suggest some of you try to figure out ways to do things before calling them broken on the forums.

 

Thanks

The guy who is sick of Nerf's for crybabys

nobody crying here..

i am simply saying it doesnt work with all that consumption.. you can use about 4 of them,

i just finished my AA now. Bourgs does from 4k to 6k on me per hit..

and he just adds one stun and he kills me in 3 normal attacks hits and a stun.

its just not fair..

will someone from the MODs in game give us a response please?

and please don't be like my thread before that like its a done deal and we should deal with it.. wasn't cool that tyranny kind of talk last time. Please we need a solution i just started playing the game again after quitting because of the balance that came to mages and i started to enjoy the game with the class again.

Thank you.

nobody crying here..

i am simply saying it doesnt work with all that consumption.. you can use about 4 of them,

i just finished my AA now. Bourgs does from 4k to 6k on me per hit..

and he just adds one stun and he kills me in 3 normal attacks hits and a stun.

its just not fair..

 

will someone from the MODs in game give us a response please?

and please don't be like my thread before that like its a done deal and we should deal with it.. wasn't cool that tyranny kind of talk last time. Please we need a solution i just started playing the game again after quitting because of the balance that came to mages and i started to enjoy the game with the class again.

 

Thank you.

 I agree that bourgs are the most OP . super range. super damage out put  burst or not. it does massive damage to a single target. it's the biggest  unbalance class wise IMO.

Mage needs 100% but even with it  Bourgs so much apart from the rest it's insane. 

I posted before the latest update and will again here.  The mage was fine and should have been left alone.  From a healing clerics point of view I had to heal the mages at about the same rate as the other fighters now.  Before you could not keep a mage alive even with 2 FS clerics focusing on them.  The new mana shield stuff actually made them playable again.  They were still able to be killed, it just took a bit more work, and I mean bit.  I have no idea where people were saying they were impossible to kill.  Did they survive longer than before? yes, but that was the point.  Before they might as well have committed suicide to try to die any faster.  The mage was horrible to play before that mana shield and all update.  I know a lot of really good mages who didn't even bother playing. 

Unfortunately the fact that mages were not simple kills anymore and some people had to actually use strategy, they came on and complained that mages were unkillable so they were nerfed.  The nerf was not needed.  If anything had to be done maybe lowering the mana shield from 100% to maybe 80% would have been fine.  But to also take away their MP it makes the skills stupid now.  Mages were easy to stop, but like I said it took a bit more work.  Stuns, sleeps, mutes, and just a bourg hammering on them was enough.  

Not talking about other classes here, this is a thread about mages and mana shield.  It should stay that way.  

I haven't played since the updated but the real problem is likely that overall damage is so high. This, combined with a weak manashield results in mages dieing before they can accomplish anything. 

ive said this before with many of my friends mages are still the same build around it my mage hasnt taken not even a step back after this update..

sincerely, Worldmage

We have active Class Rep's for mage?

Edited by VModCupcake, 01 June 2015 - 01:40 PM.

 

 

We have active Class Rep's for mage?

Yes, Ahya.

Edited by VModCupcake, 01 June 2015 - 01:40 PM.

ive said this before with many of my friends mages are still the same build around it my mage hasnt taken not even a step back after this update..

sincerely, Worldmage

raging will never end, it will happen after every patch 

this never ending cycle

only 1 way to make everybody happy

remove all job beside knight ...

so it will be only knight job,, with different build ,,

so everybody happy 

nah, raiders's critical lock neds to be nerfed. is not right to land a critical blow with 180% crit damage.. thats like 4 hits on mage and dead,,,, less than 2 seconds exactly. i play raider only have glory and aura set with atack speed. i still do 15 + kill every AA game. cause I mainly target muse class and dealers than i go for soldier class., they can's take my crit lock and crit damage ... yes I hope they nerf raider class. so we can see more variety on the game arena . not just all the way hawker class ... 

 I agree that bourgs are the most OP . super range. super damage out put  burst or not. it does massive damage to a single target. it's the biggest  unbalance class wise IMO.

 

Mage needs 100% but even with it  Bourgs so much apart from the rest it's insane. 

do you know why bourgs always stay in the back or running? cause raiders can kill them while cloacking, a scout takes 8k on their impact skill , stun the bourg and shoot one more skill and boom the bourgs dead.. i agree bourg has high damage just like mage, but no deffence at all. bourg and mage are basically the same . high damage output but so little defense . talking about damage, seems funy no one bother to complaint about axe champ. my mana shield has 36k on me but axe champ took it out in no time.. stop complaining ... and asking for more  nerf........there will never a balance in this game for sure... 

Edited by helloitsme, 31 May 2015 - 04:21 AM.

nah, raiders's critical lock neds to be nerfed. is not right to land a critical blow with 180% crit damage.. thats like 4 hits on mage and dead,,,, less than 2 seconds exactly. i play raider only have glory and aura set with atack speed. i still do 15 + kill every AA game. cause I mainly target muse class and dealers than i go for soldier class., they can's take my crit lock and crit damage ... yes I hope they nerf raider class. so we can see more variety on the game arena . not just all the way hawker class ... 

Too many false facts in 1 post. 2 seconds exactly .. sureee

Also the reason why u get 15 kills is because you ks other players due high attack speed.

Only your raider need to be nerfed i guess it will make you happy.

Edited by LexLoyalty, 31 May 2015 - 04:46 AM.

Too many false facts in 1 post. 2 seconds exactly .. sureee

Also the reason why u get 15 kills is because you ks other players due high attack speed.

 

Only your raider need to be nerfed i guess it will make you happy.

no matter what i ks or i go 1 vs 1 , i can still kill easily ... depends on what class im killing. try to hit battle arti or gun bourg. thats instant death ... for mage, once the shield is down, just stun them and you got another kill ..

no matter what i ks or i go 1 vs 1 , i can still kill easily ... depends on what class im killing. try to hit battle arti or gun bourg. thats instant death ... for mage, once the shield is down, just stun them and you got another kill ..

Raiders meant to be assassins,hunters,single target destroyers ..what do you expect exactly ? an assassin that cant finish his target ? or you expect mages and bourgs be invincible 

Also, "do you know why bourgs always stay in the back or running? cause raiders can kill them while cloacking, a scout takes 8k on their impact skill , stun the bourg and shoot one more skill and boom the bourgs dead.. i agree bourg has high damage just like mage, but no deffence at all. bourg and mage are basically the same . high damage output but so little defense . talking about damage, seems funy no one bother to complaint about axe champ. my mana shield has 36k on me but axe champ took it out in no time.. stop complaining ... and asking for more  nerf........there will never a balance in this game for sure... "

​Looks like you having double standards ? in ur previous post you keep begging to nerf raiders then in an earlier post you tell people to stop crying for a nerf .. huh what ? 

Im pretty sure your main isn't a raider and you just tryna get your own class  boosted and raiders nerfed.

Edited by LexLoyalty, 31 May 2015 - 04:50 AM.