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#1 Vernon

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Posted 20 June 2015 - 02:52 AM

Hello!

Can anybody write down how skills gonna change on defender-commander tree and when? after 1 or 2 or 3months or later?
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#2 Kazara

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Posted 20 June 2015 - 04:41 AM

We don't know.


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Posted 20 June 2015 - 04:51 AM

Sure Man ! easy and with pleasure : here we go :

 

first log on you toon , then select it, select "delete" . do it and create a new one : zerk if you are stuck in love with melee classes (poor you and me )

 

or whatever magic class you want : all OP : rulers of the game and laughing at any melee face except zerks and less than five sins/shadow runners  in game hitting  like crazy because having more than 2,4 K CAD 

and soon far more tks mythic DC weapons : cool story : best shield had around 500 block def , now with Mythic Cherry a good shield hit 600 block def at +30 !! WooohOO ! too bad. meanwhile they release a crossbow ( and i suppose a dual , didn't see it yet ) that is just doing DOUBLE damage on basis + 0 comparing to a trinity . AH AH AH , men ! you are so funny with your sense of balance , really !

 

can't wait to see 01110 hitting 4,5k per sec on 100% block , yeah !!  but whatever eh ? losing subject.

 

if you go magic still better choose some crowders : they are even more rulers. that's why many mystics cries for crowds (besides theirs awesome OPness) : they can't match sleep of tempests, gravity up of xenoas , chaos totem of sakers or king of kings of the crowders : defis ! ( their queens are xenoas tho not far behind , even if sakers are good jokers at the court being in first rooms of battle fields rankings ! )

 

a commander ? pfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffouahwoahouhouh ouh , man , you are so funny :heh:  low dps. no heals. adamant ? whatever , keep it you will die with it in less than ten secs under crazy dps anyway , unable to kill tank nukers. and as said before : don't realx it's not over . now we wait for sins and SR big return . really gaining 1/6 more block defense while they gained double damage. why complaining ? :heh:


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#4 Sandyman

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Posted 20 June 2015 - 06:51 AM

it`s not that hard to assume things if you look at the Zerk/WL changes.

 

You just have to reverse the Skills , when Zerk has a long range Caster deflect , Commy might get a short range Mele deflect similar to "Godly Mirror".

 

Spoiler

 

 

add a Self heal and let him "Command" something like more than 1 Atma for example /his Atma and from Enemys^^

 

 


Edited by Sandyman, 20 June 2015 - 07:00 AM.

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#5 Vernon

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Posted 21 June 2015 - 02:31 AM

Well, thx guys. I thought i can get some official information, but it seems maybe they are too busy or they still don't know or just they dont care what we writing here. Anyway, i also think it should be better. Maybe some people think its okay coz we have silence and adamant, but thats all we have got, its nothing. If u see, there are just a few commy ingame. Im sure if they nerf it, if they make it more weaker, this class will disappier, nobody will play with commander. I really hope its never gonna happen coz its my favorite class...


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Posted 21 June 2015 - 05:59 AM

it was mine too , years ago , when i start the game. but Commies already suffer from three majors historical nerfs. and that's part of the reason why there are so few today. and like for avenger with trap/totems removal , each time a predator disappear , his baits multiplicate and become the strongest aka defis , mystics...etc.

 

as nukers turn tankers TOO , the poor commie that is already not as hard hitting than zerk or sin can't complete his mission. So he choose to disappear :p_smile:  making them even more OP.

 

at the very start (wasn't there) they said they can perma ady minds : cries, cries , cries of others ==> removed now you have few seconds of vulnerability . not enough for some. but cause they are noobs . counter measure are easy : even with only one sin : Soccer kick CD is faster than ady , so it won't stay long anyway. or you can lithi the commie. don't even talk about battle : rarely NO sins or only one. you are like a light in darkness : be sure sins will run on you for removing your ady.

 

next they nerf the only pew pew with veeeeeeeeeeeery long Cool Down , cause "it wasn't fair" because ignoring def each half hour ! :p_omg:  Oh my GOD ! ( let's talk about zerks today , hum ? oh....no. no nerf to come ! :p_smile:  )

 

after that they decide to "re-think" DoT skills and DNA making it BS. considering DoT is usefull for making sins run (cause the nasty can't hide with doT . too bad. ) making it dna points "greedy monger" to make it usefull and working as before. what you can't at all waste in this class ( i mean dna and skills points)

 

last step was when they made low blow CD at "near 5 sec" when it was near 15 sec before . won't complain : i like it. it's the most powerful damages added skill in turan physics trees. commies skills do less ! (yes , yes ) but ok , have some DoT to make the differences.

 

but anyway . when i test it back then . i was assuming that i was almost as "hard" hitter than commie and far more tanky. that was the "coup de grâce" to my eyes for commie class. yeah of course i don't have adamant . whatever. dps kill them with adamant on.

 

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#7 Vernon

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Posted 21 June 2015 - 06:38 AM

Yea, its true, u are right. Well, they made the zerks more stronger, elems also became better, so i think they can see they should make commies stronger, coz this class is almost unplayable now. Mages shoot 3k dmg on cap resist, a self heal would be very useful for us. I guess they wont nerf more, i just wanted to ask them what they gonna do, but maybe they still dunno yet :) im sure there are more ppl who loved commy, but they changed class coz of nerfs. Prot also good, maybe have higher dmg currently, but no silence, no rush,no slow skill, hard against mages i think. For me commy or nothing...we will see..


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Posted 21 June 2015 - 10:15 PM

The "Commander" is dead and buried, had been struggling for years but, meh, could have been a little fun to try to play one (perhaps with mallwh*red equipment,yeah).

 

I would just forget about it, like I did with mine. If you really want to, come and check in a year or two, who knows, maybe.

 

If they ever get their heads out of their butts, that is. I know this stinky "version" of the game somehow manages to still be around, I just can not comprehend how someone with any reason and sanity left, would still bother with classes like "Commander", yeah, even out of pure nostalgia.


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