Are Knights-Paladins-Dragoons still good ?

What i mean is I'm curious to know why it does not apply to Spin it bear.

 

As i mentioned above, spin it bear hits 5 times, i received 80 damage each hit. I have no resistance, he has 500 fire damage so it does not makes sense if elemental damage applies to spin it bear. Total damage he made was 400 damage including normal damage.

 

Therefore he should have dealt at least 500 damage because i have no resistance.

 

Makuron was considering that it was called summon. I said Incoming bear does elemental damage, I'm gone bear does not. Both are summons.

 

well obviously if one applies element damage and other doesn't then guess what, ONE ISN"T A SUMMON.

Wrong,Incoming bear is instant damage divided into hits. Aka not a summon.
Spin it bear(paladin) is stand alone. Hits are reapplied as long as target is in hit box again summon aka free after cast.
Instead of calling them summons its more accurate to call the skills standalones

Edited by Apocryphos, 22 November 2015 - 10:41 PM.

Overlord Bears are not summons. They are just animation to replace the instant damage after using the skill. Like ghost fighter, once you use the skill, anything in the hitbox of the skill is registered will do damage. Where as in if you cast spin it bear and I leave the range it won't hit me as long as I don't get near it. Also the Bears from overlords don't do damage if the actual animation hits you so it can't be called a summon. An example of a summon is raising storm where the wrestler litterally hits you, unlike the 2 bears.

That is one of the part that x-spammer classes are getting weak *blaming* 

 

P.S : Why do they do it?

Edited by SoulSight, 22 November 2015 - 07:33 PM.