Patch Notes v 592 11/24/2015

 

Additional Notes:

We've corrected several of the compensation efforts that recently did not apply as intended, and those should now be showing up correctly.

 

my muse did not receive the premium since sunday and it is showing correctly now after maintenance. premium hours is not correct though.

my soldier who had premium since sunday got premium reset to 3 days. how come my muse did not get the same amount?

The maintenance will mainly update for Black Friday, but the issue with the premium compensation is still being investigated and we will update you guys as soon as it has been resolved. 

Well noted and thanks for the update. Wishing you greater days ahead!

err...shud i correct my pc date?

No premium, just that info.... hahahaha...

For those of you reporting you still haven't received the announced compensation still, please message me on the forums and we'll look in to what may have caused it.

Regarding the server's current situation, we are hard at work trying to address the recent frequency of network connection problems to ensure service can return to its normal stable state.

i can reply u....1st time i recieve a 1 day premium for the wat urgent down(dont remember).

Then later add another 3 more premium(i also dunno wat the issue is) was announced.

ok...so now i shud have 4 days...but after the 1st premium finished...it didn't continue...it just ended...

As to the image...it's becos i was continuing playing on the server regardless of the premium(1 day ended)

and maybe it's showing that message...which means all my 4 days premium has ended(which i didnt have the other 3)

er...i think i started playing on the 1st premium given...20nov

Edit: Sorry, i have other accounts, only 1 made it to add 4 days.

        it's ok, no premium , got premium....it's still the same for me..

       move along...

Edit2: Sorry, the acct that made 4 days - was login after 20nov. 

       so it will end on 27nov(i just checked).

Edited by 2982140607214517260, 24 November 2015 - 10:06 PM.

Lmao, are you serious? There are literally no rare items in this game anymore. Faiths, that's it. The rest are just complete and utter trash because you continue to bring them into the item mall. Are you a bunch of baboons with developing skills or? R.I.P 300b small wing collection you Gravity have raped my bum hole yet again. Just saying it took about 2 years to collect all 7 of them at around 30-40b ea.... Small chance i'll be continuing to play *pun not intended*

To Fizz,

On the other hand, I think it's a common sense to expect any items except Faiths, to be brought back to Item Mall.

Because they're under no bound, the company can release anything and anytime they want.

They've never said they would never release them again, haven't they?

I feel sorry for you, but at the same time, I don't.

To Fizz,

 

On the other hand, I think it's a common sense to expect any items except Faiths, to be brought back to Item Mall.

Because they're under no bound, the company can release anything and anytime they want.

They've never said they would never release them again, haven't they?

 

I feel sorry for you, but at the same time, I don't.

I don't care so much about the money, it's more like now every other noob in this game is going to have these once hard to obtain wings.

This game is turning into a joke, I had a scout fully geared full passives within a week from level 1, game complete in 1 week [Blank]

This is why I am finding it so hard to come back to this game, these sort of decisions are retarded as [Blank]

Please try to refrain from using inappropriate words on the forums.

Edited by VModOreo, 27 November 2015 - 02:03 AM.

I've been off from the game 1 week so far, I'm not planning for a coming back anymore. 

I've been off from the game 1 week so far, I'm not planning for a coming back anymore.

How so?

There's no more thing to do in ROSE. I've been through them all. (Except PVP, I never did and never will)

There's no more thing to do in ROSE. I've been through them all. (Except PVP, I never did and never will)

PVP is complete [Blank] now anyways, 100% pay to win via training ground and game arena. Huge armys on [Blank] alliance teams (pretty much 80% of the server allied up) and not to mention the endless pay to win boosting, eggs and sigils. Remind me again how that is fun for anyone who doesn't have alot of money to throw into a virtual system of time wasting?

Please refrain from using harsh language, and calling out people on the forums.

Edited by VModOreo, 25 November 2015 - 05:38 AM.

Lmao, are you serious? There are literally no rare items in this game anymore. Faiths, that's it. The rest are just complete and utter trash because you continue to bring them into the item mall. Are you a bunch of baboons with developing skills or? R.I.P 300b small wing collection you Gravity have raped my bum hole yet again. Just saying it took about 2 years to collect all 7 of them at around 30-40b ea.... Small chance i'll be continuing to play *pun not intended*

1: Bows

2: You were banned and lost those anyway. Stop [Blank]

"Cry" or anything along those lines can fall under the trash talk category, please try not to use it on the forums.

Edited by VModOreo, 27 November 2015 - 02:05 AM.

I can understand FizzMo, rereleasing old items is just sad and removes one of the biggest aspects for people in the late-late game (of several maxed characters with all possible items and huge amounts of zulies): The obtaining/collecting of rare items - none of the items released after 2011 have any value to me simply because you have to always fear those getting rereleased in a desperate move of earing a couple of dollars instead of creating new gear it is easier to simply throw existing items in the Mall/spin.

Collecting rare items became a gambling of items becoming rereleased or recoloured or being lost (example: Hanbok Set)....

I know 90% of the people in here can't understand my point but that simply comes from the fact that you might be too poor ingame then.

Edited by iMatt, 25 November 2015 - 09:13 AM.

Collecting rare items has nothing to do with value for a true collector. 

A collector by another name is a completionist. They're not in it to collect a vast amount of wealth in terms of item investments. They're simply going to the satisfaction of unlocking everything.

The capitalistic nature of super wealthy wanting everything to themselves to be revered is just egotistical in nature. They want fame and glory by simply purchasing it, then hoarding it to themselves. In fact, the total static value of zulie has no baring on the collectible value to a collector. 

@Matt, you're confusing two very different goals of two very different minded players. It's perfectly fine to try and monopolize the market, but there will be crashes and unforeseen changes that can set you back. But it's also perfectly fine to be a collector of items for the sake of completing sets and achieving goals. The two don't need to be intrinsically locked together. 

Also, speaking of the Hanbok, that's an event item as well. and Should be recycled considering it's being listed + traded like a Faith item. 

As you can see. 85bil for an Event Item? Hmmm 

Edited by Feuer, 25 November 2015 - 06:46 AM.

Well if there are items that are maybe max 1b zulies worth i would most likly have all ever released, since there are items that have a higher value due to their rarity I am still collection which is one of the reasons that keep me playing this game - and spending money on it.

If you (re)release items their price drops down really low even if you make them hard to get you will always be able to get those way cheaper compared to if those don't get rereleased.

Removing the last "challenges" would only make those who already got everything quit the game even faster.

You're trying to justify the prevention of releasing items that make the company money under the guise of 'end game content'. If you want more to do at the end game level, then it should be done via expansions, not limiting other players ability to collect items they like. 

That's like saying 'I'm bored today, so I think I'll wave a pair of new shoes in front of a hobo who's shoes have holes in them' and then say it wouldn't be fair if those new shoes were made cheap enough for the hobo to buy and wear. 

Granted, the level of necessity in that metaphor is a bit higher, but the underlying meaning of it is the same. 

You shouldn't justify the limitations of others by expressing your 'boredom' with your already vast amount of luxuries. That's just wrong morally. 

Me and I am pretty sure I speak for many who actually spend money on the game have all they want - 10+ characters with all items passives etc whatever those characters need - seen everything played through everything achieved all there is to achieve, the progress of in-game content is that slow that the only thing apart from fighting boredom with some PvP Arena Games here and some dungeons there is collecting HARD to get items, achieving this is something people that as I mentioned reached the late-late game stages of Rose spend their time on; trading/buying/vending/farming, increasing the already enormous amounts of zulies and items we sit on, still aiming for the one or two items missing in their collection.

And yes i feel not bad when someone who plays rose for some weeks or months complains about the high prices of certain costumes, because they are no must have items to get for being able to compete, those are just for customising - if there were any actual advantage from those I would be the first one voting for rereleases.

Your comparison (as much as I like it) is totally wrong since costumes are apart from shoes in your example things you don't essentially need to succeed in Rose, they're just optical enhancements...

Edited by iMatt, 25 November 2015 - 09:00 AM.

people that as I mentioned reached the late-late game stages of Rose spend their time on; trading/buying/vending/farming, increasing the already enormous amounts of zulies and items we sit on, still aiming for the one or two items missing in their collection.

 

And yes i feel not bad when someone who plays rose for some weeks or months complains about the high prices of certain costumes, because they are no must have items 

Don't those two statements contradict one another?

The first one is you praising the concept of appreciating item values over time, and the over-all value of them to your enjoyment of collecting them.

Then the next one, you're stating that they don't actually have any value, and that you don't feel bad for those who can't afford them with even their best efforts?

So, let me ask you this. If you don't care about other peoples ability to collect items they like, why should anyone care about the people who own almost all of them losing a static value on them? I mean, you already have them, what's it to you if someone else has them?

If you're a true collector, than your goal is to complete it, at any cost, and the cheaper and faster to complete it, the better it is for you. Because it means you're able to complete the set and move onto the next collection.

But what you're saying is you want it hard, you want it to be in fact nearly impossible for someone entering ROSE within the last few weeks to ever have a chance of obtaining the set like you, and that you don't care if they can't and in fact are opposed to them having that fair ability. I'm not sure if that is greed, or just contempt for anyone challenging your own collection or account value. What do you care if they have a collection similar to yours if you're a true collector? You wouldn't. Collectors acquire things for their own satisfaction. So it shouldn't really matter to you or anyone else what someone else has. 

My point is, you're masquerading around as if you yourself are a collector. But, none of your actions support that. In fact, you sound like someone who's desperate to hold onto status or position. And even somewhat greedy if I may say so. You're offended that a digital item with no value [as per your own words] returned so people who missed out on them have a chance to get them? That shows you're not a collector, you're just annoyed at losing the false image of being important because of worthless digital items you own. 

Your whole argument is based on you collecting because there's nothing else for you to do, and that you've completed all there is to do. The only thing that statement supports is that end-game content could use an expansion. That doesn't justify limiting other peoples ability to stylize and represent themselves in a personal fashion, OR blockading collectors from enjoying their goals. Goals you obviously don't share. 

Collecting rare items has nothing to do with value for a true collector. 

A collector by another name is a completionist. They're not in it to collect a vast amount of wealth in terms of item investments. They're simply going to the satisfaction of unlocking everything.

The capitalistic nature of super wealthy wanting everything to themselves to be revered is just egotistical in nature. They want fame and glory by simply purchasing it, then hoarding it to themselves. In fact, the total static value of zulie has no baring on the collectible value to a collector.  

Well said. 

I like the challenge those item collections provide, that is why I can understand Callum when he gets sad after all the effort he put into farming them not getting honored the way it should.

Well obviously I would not be happy if for example my collection which is probably around five trillion zulies worth (conservative calculation) would become available for 10-20 bucks in IM or 10-20b in zulies. You do understand my point here, don't you?

if you collect items, you want the items. not having the items to show how much value they have. its about the item and not the value when you collect. If you want something and got it, it shouldn't matter if the value changes. cause you already got what you wanted.

just how i see collecting tho.

Edited by angeltje, 25 November 2015 - 09:43 AM.

Finishing a collection is self rewarding. Being proud of your own efforts and feeling accomplished is about you and your own sense of pride and accomplishment. If you're upset that your collection, be it 5 minutes old or 5 years old, loses a static value or someone else has done the same, then you weren't collecting for yourself. You were gathering for attention.

Inherently, there's also nothing wrong with gathering things to make a unique look, but what we're talking about is the value in zulie of a collection. Not the value of a collection in terms of a sense of accomplishment. And that fact aside, there are SO many items in ROSE, that making a unique identity for yourself is easily done. 

No, instead the problem I see being talked about is simply put "I spent all this effort to appear better than everyone else, and am aggro'd about others being able to have some portions of my collection -not all of it- for cheaper". That is not the opinion of a collector who is gathering for their own self satisfaction. That is someone gathering for attention in a sense of supremacy, or total ownership. It's Greedy and anti-social. Also, like you said, they're not actually worth anything. They're only as valuable as the person who want to acquire it. And I feel that the DEV's decision to give everyone an equal opportunity to acquire them to be fair. 

Cause that's what I really see.

I see these complaints being made out of greed.

And I see the DEV's giving everyone periodic chances to fairly acquire items as perfectly fine. 

Also, I fully understand the legalities behind why the Faith items haven't been released again, but trust me. If I thought there was a chance to get them released again, I'd certainly push for it. Because in the end, it's a game, one that everyone should have an equal chance to enjoy, in ALL aspects. Collecting included. 

 

Also, I fully understand the legalities behind why the Faith items haven't been released again, but trust me. If I thought there was a chance to get them released again, I'd certainly push for it. Because in the end, it's a game, one that everyone should have an equal chance to enjoy, in ALL aspects. Collecting included. 

How about Ancients?

Ancients could very, VERY easily be released again once the professions update comes out. That was around the same period, if not the same reason why the first round of Ancients were made. There was a Crafting update god only knows how long ago, and it resulted in some items becoming ancients because of the changes to what they were made from/broke down into etc.

Given we all know they want to make a professions update, that would be the perfect time to release Ancients again, and I plan on reminding them when the time comes close.