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#1 Vultur3

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Posted 03 August 2010 - 08:10 AM

I noticed they have 7 elems ... then we went pb and RAAAAGE !:(

The Great Elementalist Migration From Their Camp To Their Safe Zone :rolleyes:

we still lost but it was mega fun

This was the next game they had "only" 4 eles xD it ended 100/99 for us epic :D

i love you all you FoC*ing FoC*ers http://forums.warppo...tyle_emoticons/default/fing32.gif

Edited by Vultur3, 03 August 2010 - 09:21 AM.

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Posted 03 August 2010 - 08:15 AM

aww i so miss foc u.u
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Posted 03 August 2010 - 08:21 AM

aww i so miss foc u.u


man foc is full and epic all day today ... WHERE THE F-_-K are you!?
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Posted 03 August 2010 - 08:23 AM

man foc is full and epic all day today ... WHERE THE F-_-K are you!?


im on my other pc which has an ati x1650pro on it lol. need to wait for my main graphic card from the main pc xD its in service xD
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Posted 03 August 2010 - 09:40 AM

i was surprised they lasted so long with so many pbs on your team at the same time
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Posted 03 August 2010 - 09:57 AM

pb are gay. tAake them out of bf
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Posted 03 August 2010 - 10:28 AM

pb are gay. tAake them out of bf


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Posted 03 August 2010 - 10:28 AM

that or give me lots of +25dmg xD
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Posted 03 August 2010 - 10:49 AM

pb are gay. tAake them out of bf



how else can we stop 7 elems ... you're playing sin or ranger 100% - it's not our fault sin/ranger pbs suxxxxx ... or ure too lazy to lvlup your pb ... in any case taking pbs out of bf would be retarded and it will kill the fun :rolleyes:
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Posted 03 August 2010 - 10:57 AM

how else can we stop 7 elems ... you're playing sin or ranger 100% - it's not our fault sin/ranger pbs suxxxxx ... or ure too lazy to lvlup your pb ... in any case taking pbs out of bf would be retarded and it will kill the fun :rolleyes:


No my defiler is lvl 74 with lvl 74 pb. lol
I dont have a sin or ranger.

The damage from pb is way too large and makes them not fun to play against. Also the two new pb have weird bugged damage. I dont find it fun being 8k smashed from a bartuk pb.

Besides I dont think one person should be able to take on 7 elems. You've just illustrated the op'ness of pb right there.

Edited by Syre, 03 August 2010 - 11:02 AM.

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Posted 03 August 2010 - 11:01 AM

my sin pb rules <.<
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Posted 03 August 2010 - 11:03 AM

No my defiler is lvl 74 with lvl 74 pb. lol
I dont have a sin or ranger.

The damage from pb is way too large and makes them not fun to play against. Also the two new pb have weird bugged damage. I dont find it fun being 8k smashed from a bartuk pb.


u know some ppl survive those 8k smashes ... anyway i've said this many times : PB is what makes the game different and fun and if they remove them from pvp what the hell would we use them for ... grinding ?! pfffff ZZZzzZZzzZZzzZZzZZzzZZzZZZ

Edited by Vultur3, 03 August 2010 - 11:04 AM.

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#13 Vultur3

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Posted 03 August 2010 - 11:04 AM

No my defiler is lvl 74 with lvl 74 pb. lol
I dont have a sin or ranger.

The damage from pb is way too large and makes them not fun to play against. Also the two new pb have weird bugged damage. I dont find it fun being 8k smashed from a bartuk pb.

Besides I dont think one person should be able to take on 7 elems. You've just illustrated the op'ness of pb right there.


it wasnt one person we were 3 or 4 pbs and everyone else in the team ...

P.S. i've also done 8k+ damage with a pb skill lvl 10 and i dont mind if they nerf those skills altho i like them alot :rolleyes:

P.P.S. sorry bout the double post my bad

Edited by Vultur3, 03 August 2010 - 11:18 AM.

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Posted 03 August 2010 - 02:02 PM

if you get camped by capped lvl tempy or shammy pb you will change your fun about pb "fun" factor, also with lvl 4 charge it lasts quiet long time.

basically you and your team mates die once they all sit in safe zone saying that like wait 5 min for pb to be over, then continue playing... FUN
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Posted 03 August 2010 - 03:02 PM

if you get camped by capped lvl tempy or shammy pb you will change your fun about pb "fun" factor, also with lvl 4 charge it lasts quiet long time.

basically you and your team mates die once they all sit in safe zone saying that like wait 5 min for pb to be over, then continue playing... FUN


i was only annoyed once by such a thing - comets' pb in ThemeBattle - the one with the trees ... but that's cuz she/he has like +100 damage on the wand and who knows what else in the gear (seriously how many mall points is that xD)

and if a capped lvl tempy decides to go pb - they deserve to own the other team ... 79 is hard.

anyway it's just a game - this may sound strange to you but i enjoy getting my ass kicked in a game :rolleyes:

Edit: I usually enjoy it. Of course i enjoy winning even more :(

and i suppose comets deserves to destroy an entire team with one look for buying so much mall points and supporting the game financially and of course for reaching the cap (i just want those 20-20s to drop somewhere - like from an impossible to defeat boss or something)

Edited by Vultur3, 03 August 2010 - 03:24 PM.

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Posted 03 August 2010 - 11:51 PM

its not because of item mall at all, its cos of capped resistance and turan and bartuk pbs have great pb skills which hit very high and in end game foc it happens most games and trust me its not fun
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Posted 04 August 2010 - 12:08 AM

Yea I think it's very strange resistance increases PB skill damage...

PB skills aren't element based so you can't reduce the damage, you only have PB resistance (check your PB to see what PB you are good against at) but that's only when you have PB on also.

They should fix this instead of removing it. Using normal skills at PB form just make the damage a bit more than doubled and can be reduced by resistance/defense. Only problem being the bugged PB damage calculations.
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Posted 04 August 2010 - 12:26 AM

seriously xenoa pbs also have skills that do 5-6-7-8+ k damage its not only truan and bartuk i'm not sure about the other races tho but probably one of their pb skills at a high level can do the same

Edited by Vultur3, 04 August 2010 - 12:29 AM.

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Posted 04 August 2010 - 12:41 AM

Not only mages too, some berserker hit me for nearly 9k with PB. :rolleyes:
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Posted 04 August 2010 - 12:55 AM

turan pb carlos has 20m and 30m instant pb bolt which is affected by resistance and hits loads.

bartuk rufus pb has 2 10m and 20m instant pb skills i think

xeona pb rebria has 30m 1sec cast skill and 1 short range instant skill

krux's giont's pb skills dont seem to be affected by resistance as much i think, altho they have 2 short range (4m) instant skills and 1 nice little instant aoe

so in conclusion rufus and carlos are way better pbs than 2 others

and now think of pbs like comets but times 3 in every foc you play, fun! -.-

edit: they also last twice as long with lvl 4 charge

Edited by Famous, 04 August 2010 - 12:56 AM.

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Posted 04 August 2010 - 01:07 AM

Really? I thought all PB skills are affected by resistance...

If that's case for sure the damage calculation is bugged then. Another bugging as intended. :rolleyes:
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Posted 04 August 2010 - 01:36 AM

so in conclusion rufus and carlos [and elementalist PBs] are way better pbs than others

yea, giont doesnt have any ranged nuke moves that can one shot a guy from 30m like rufus and carlos, and any ele in pb has an array of nukes 30m to choose from. that alone is imbalanced. add in that pbs of eles can hit for 8k at mid foc bracket, shammies for upwards of 5k, and it's simply stupid. remove pbs from battlegrounds or fix their damn damage. it's cool that there's a damage multiplier as your PB lvls up. that should be sufficient. what's with some skills of only some PBs but not other PBs not only ignoring restances entirely? what's the purpose of this?
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Posted 04 August 2010 - 02:45 AM

okay just to clear this up - xenoa pbs have ONE skill that is bugged, however it's funny bugged as the dmg span is somewhat random.

Gloriole of Darkness hits VERY nicely, hardest I hit with was kazax for 6k+ and I don' t mean his pb, I mean "normal" kazax lol
catch is it's 8m range.

Other xenoa pb skills do hit well (especially pve) however ARE NOT resistance affected.

so even with this in mind if ya look at rufus and carlos, they are even more OP with their skills, leaving giont as the poor gimped sucker.
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Posted 04 August 2010 - 02:59 AM

Other xenoa pb skills do hit well (especially pve) however ARE NOT resistance affected.


Did you do some tests what maybe increase their damage?

I did some for giont and it definitely seems to be based on physical damage. Hitting 2k on lvl 1 Annihilators Hammer with my 65 Sin while a capped Defi with maxed resistance hits only 1k on same skill lvl 10. But compared to Rufus/Carlos 2k dmg is nothing, plus it just has 8m range.

Edited by Mortuus, 04 August 2010 - 03:03 AM.

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Posted 04 August 2010 - 03:05 AM

the only class I didn't test the dmg on was kruxis. there is no major difference between the classes/races + there is also te fact that other xenoa pb skills have :rolleyes: range and -_-ty casting time aswell. the things I tested were pretty much random testing on ppl with capped resists and tbh I'd like to do some more, just get me a capped ress shaman, bm, sh, and templar and I'll let my magic work lol
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