......my entire post is backing up my statement that you should have tested more. just because you tested doesnt mean that you tested everything. ive already said uses for frost nova and i think freezing ppl in hide is pretty good. if you sight and then try to cast a skill they will most likely move away and hide again. so freezing them and then sighting isnt a useless combo but ill have to admit that frost nova isnt amazing for woe.
also that statement about crimson and chain in pvp is completely wrong. at the beginning i always used crimson but most of the time they just live it or hide it. chain kills more ppl and most ppl dont hide it properly. that is my experience and it may be different for you but you cant just say its wrong.
also frost novas freezing chance isnt that bad and you can spam it very fast as already stated. btw position bugging yourself is good in pvp/woe.
and seriously that last paragraph just sounds like you're mad. i just posted because everything you post is subjective and i dont want ppl not getting a skill because someone didnt find it useful. they should at least see all the possible uses a skill has from a different perspective and decide if the skills would be suited to their playstyle.
...Are you sure about that? Wait a minute...
"ive already said uses for frost nova and i think freezing ppl in hide is pretty good. if you sight and then try to cast a skill they will most likely move away and hide again. so freezing them and then sighting isnt a useless combo but ill have to admit that frost nova isnt amazing for woe."
Wth? you are contradicting yourself by saying it is good for freezing hidden people yet you admit frost nova isn't amazing for woe?...And again..did you consider the 7x7 range of Sight and the 5x5 range of frost nova? not to mention you have to continuously be casting frost nova and thus wasting your time since all good pvp/woe players carry an unfrozen 95%(my own personal estimate from experience in pvp and woe before and after renewal).
The fact that frost nova has a freezing chance is already a problem for use in mobs or worst...in WoE, unless of course its a poring mob. Am I crazy or did you just say position bugging is good? You do understand that it is very crucial to have a certainty of where you are positioned? (since we are talking about warlocks here). Position lag is bad for every class, ESPECIALLY mage types since you have to know where you are positioned to have success in dropping a safety wall down or an idea of where you are before casting a spell according to its speed. You must not play enough woe/pvp to have made such statement....
I'm not mad in either paragraph. Irritated, yes, because I do not know how to make you guys understand that frost nova and Chain Lighting is not good WoE tactic, neither is it a pvm one concidering the wide variety of skills you can use adjacent to this one but BETTER in the long run.
And omg... are you serious? just listen to yourself: "everything you post is subjective and i dont want ppl not getting a skill because someone didnt find it useful" Oh you sure are being very Objective aren't you? flip the statement around(proportional)and you end up contradicting yourself yet again. There is no way you are being objective in any manner...