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#1 Snuwfer

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Posted 18 April 2017 - 06:02 PM

Now, is the perfect time to implement grade 8 tier gems.

You have level 240 gems now, that are quite interesting... Why not make those D7s, G7s, etc worthwhile and release 8th tier of gem system?

I think it's time Warp Portal ;)


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#2 Feuer

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Posted 18 April 2017 - 06:13 PM

No. Gems have a base %, there's no need as the new 425 cap added more for the gems to multiply off.


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Posted 18 April 2017 - 06:15 PM

I agree on this, it's like the new substats and lvl 240 gems somehow got the gem7's behind. Especially the beryl 7 vs the Charm 40 substat...
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Posted 18 April 2017 - 06:21 PM

Sub-stats, have been better than Gems.

 

The slot priority is

Gems (easiest to obtain) > Sub-stats > slot specific gems [example: Citrine] > Runes.

 

Asking for G8's to compete with Sub-stats or even 240 slot specific gems, would break that flow, and make sub-stats absolutely worthless to obtain. 


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Posted 18 April 2017 - 07:37 PM

I'm not talking about making them 10% or something..

Just enough, that they're worth getting. As it stands now there is no point in having gems when sub stats can work with builds better then Gems themselves

like 6% +15 .. It'd be perfect for players coming into the game as well, you and I both know people charge a premium for nice sub stats.

Gems will always have a baseline price, stats never have and never will.

 

As it stand right now, with 425 Dex, and using 5 G7s, you're only netting 167 dexterity from having 5 G7s slotted.

 

Lets take 6% +15?

 

 

It's 218.

 

 


Edited by Snuwfer, 18 April 2017 - 07:43 PM.

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#6 Feuer

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Posted 18 April 2017 - 07:53 PM

Yes, that's right Snuwfer. When you have access to both Gems and Sub-stats, then the choice is obvious to use sub-stats.... Why? Because gems.... are significantly easier to get, when compared to getting sub-stats... Am I making my point, slow, and clear enough, yet.... 


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Posted 18 April 2017 - 09:51 PM

... Ok but you're being completely ignorant and opposing the fact that if grade 8 gems existed there would be absolutely no point to sub stats, can you prove that?

Literally as it stands now if anybody else makes a thread proposing a suggestion, some kind of feedback on something, you're balls to wall ignorant about it and it just can't be

 

 

Is it because I, Snuwfer made the thread?

Is it because you have certain issues with me?

 

It's just a game at the end of the day, we both sleep, we both bleed. Get a grip


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#8 Feuer

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Posted 18 April 2017 - 10:04 PM

If I was ignorant to the notion that g8's existing would obsolesce sub-stats, then I wouldn't be against this topic.

Also, I am not opposing the notion, I'm IN opposition to it. There is a difference. But this is precisely why you and I aren't seeing eye to eye. You think you're right, but when most of the community is telling you that you're wrong, perhaps they're not just out to get you or make you feel bad; perhaps you're just wrong. 

 

But lets address your question.

Can I prove that if G8's existed, sub-stats would have no point.
Answer: I can provide compelling evidence to support it, yes. Definitive proof, no.

 

But let me ask you something in return.

Can you prove that WOULDN'T happen? 

 

As for your little narcissistic ranting, no, I don't care who makes a stupid suggestion, it's still stupid. 


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#9 Snuwfer

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Posted 18 April 2017 - 10:35 PM

I don't see 217 dexterity outweighing 25 dex 40 ap in anyway

you also need to remember that runes are end game and they beat out stats even now, hell there's a couple new gems that actually can replace body runes for certain classes now

 

 

100 dex, and 200AP vs 217 dexterity ..... ^

100 str, and 200AP vs 217 Strength ..... ^^^

200 cha vs 217 cha (depending on build for cha, gems will outweigh stats obviously in total *CHA BUFFERS*)

100 int, and 200ap vs 217 int (juicy mp etc instead of having only int + ap, this opens more builds for FS/Mage)

100 con and 200 ap vs 217 con ... (do you really need to say more? most classes will scale better off of 100 con and 200 ap then 217 con)

.........................................

 

do you mind translating what 217 dexterity would equal out to, strength, int, con, etc?

even starquartz, etc getting a 1% buff as to grade 8, does not equal them out to being completely absurd, they do not exceed sub stats, unless you were to build mainly into the same stat as the gem, which grade 7 already does, which in return makes you cough up other stat points

 

 

 

 

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 07:06 AM

why so RUDE here?.... i said NO to gems 8... Sub Stats are better give 2 and Gems only 1 and Runes are more tham went you go it +60 (lvl)


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Posted 21 April 2017 - 10:30 AM

Does this kid snuwfer ever stop complaining and whining lol. Your thread is to ask for Tier 8 Gems just cause substats are better?... why don't u just simply get substats. Theres going to be things that are better than other things, and thats the way of life. People want the lvl 240 gems because there "obviously better" and you want grade 8 gems "so you get more stats than substats can offer" 


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#12 Snuwfer

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 04:46 PM

Listen, ignorance is bliss.

I am not saying make the Grade 8 gems better than sub stats, I'm saying give a point to the gem crafting system again, as it stands grade 7 gems are pointless, they were pointless before as well when 30 cha existed, they're even more pointless now. Learn to flame somebody when you can play ROSE Online without playing the most OP meta.


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Posted 21 April 2017 - 07:55 PM

Listen, ignorance is bliss.

I am not saying make the Grade 8 gems better than sub stats, I'm saying give a point to the gem crafting system again, as it stands grade 7 gems are pointless, they were pointless before as well when 30 cha existed, they're even more pointless now. Learn to flame somebody when you can play ROSE Online without playing the most OP meta.

<snip> First of all, how would they be pointless? What, cause some of the new substats are better? Doesn't make them pointless. Number 2, 30charm substats are only better if you dont have max charm or alot (Unless they somehow changed something, which Im pretty sure they havn't) Nobody is flaming you lol, your just complaining. I'm playing the most OP meta? Lmao.... I'm playing an arti because nobody else plays it, i like to be different. and Its actually one of the weakest classes if not is. Keep sounding dumb Mr. 6 Skills in 1.


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Posted 03 May 2017 - 03:45 PM

Unfortunately. i cannot agree to the 8's. because like feuer said. it's percentage based. :(


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Posted 03 May 2017 - 03:45 PM

<snip> G7 gems are already % based, there really is no need for G8's in this case. Since the base stat got raised, so would the effect of G7's. 


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Posted 03 May 2017 - 03:54 PM

Please know that while you may disagree with another players opinion or suggestion, attacking other players on the forums is not allowed. I will be cleaning up this topic at this time, but further issues of this kind will result in the topic being locked. 


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