Dude, sorry i'm very sorry i did not know RO2 was such a life for you, i was like you some years ago, doing nothing of my life but playing games but i got fed up and i was able to catch my life up in order to do something of my life so i'm sorry i did not know you were in this step of your life, sorry once again and keep it up, you can get better no worries.

 

Try to meet some friends if you see what i mean, try to go outside, the sun is here for you and for the rest you know you just have to let your keyboard sleep a bit.

LETS PLAY SOME CHESS? 

You would get rekt.

Let's face it...

Currently (August/2017) it is basically impossible to dethrone Prontera Fortress, since its owner has the best and more experienced PvP players, with a regular attendance every single WoE. If some new PvP guild try to rise, they go and put it down as soon as it becomes a small threat, which result in disband and ensuring their hegemony (I'm not complaining, actually it is a great strategy). Also, it seems that PF's owner will be also owner of Morroc Fortress soon. 

Since there are not many players in this game, and just some of the regular players have real interest in PvP, it is not hard to see how WoE tend to end...

I wonder how a guild of 70 up to 80+ manages to get all PF and some of MF alone when the seed runes got fixed and gears are about the same for everybody. I think the problem is on the attackers side that do not dual-client, do not have confidence in their capabilities, do not organize well enough to overcome the difficulties, do not have an acute sense of opportunity and do not believe in themselves. What is more problematic is GMs interfering with PvP at all levels doing low-blows and abusing their all-seeing eye power to pull huge advantages over others, but that will never be debated because WP will deny such accusations and blame those who brought the subject up of difamation and belittle as conspiracy theories even if what is said is not closely related to a conspiracy.

 

Overall I agree with you. Lack of players in WoE, removing PF main gate might help bring back more players into the game.

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Hahahhahahahahahahahahaha

 

Well, I really didn't get this laughs... if you are from the guild mentioned above, you only should be proud to be among good players but you should be ashamed to be part of a desert kingdom (as Freyja WoE used do be). There is nothing glorious in it, friend. Because what is happening is not funny at all, at least as I can see... The game is dying and everybody that has been enjoying it should be concerned.

 

I wonder how a guild of 70 up to 80+ manages to get all PF and some of MF alone when the seed runes got fixed and gears are about the same for everybody. I think the problem is on the attackers side that do not dual-client, do not have confidence in their capabilities, do not organize well enough to overcome the difficulties, do not have an acute sense of opportunity and do not believe in themselves. What is more problematic is GMs interfering with PvP at all levels doing low-blows and abusing their all-seeing eye power to pull huge advantages over others, but that will never be debated because WP will deny such accusations and blame those who brought the subject up of difamation and belittle as conspiracy theories even if what is said is not closely related to a conspiracy.

 

Overall I agree with you. Lack of players in WoE, removing PF main gate might help bring back more players into the game.

 

If GM from one way or another interfere to support and give advantages to one guild, s/he is not that smart since s/he is helping to kill the game... I've met so many players that used to spend a real lot of money in this game, and all of them did quit it because lost the interest after ml40 and with no funny in PvP due reasons already mentioned (and of course another big amount of player that didn't spend money).

 

Lack of player is not funny, and it just makes WoE less interesting if not completely boring.

 

Well, I'm just saying ^.^

 

Edited by coffeelover, 13 August 2017 - 06:28 AM.

Now you mentioned it I stopped spending money on RO2 after I saw shady things going on that affected me so much so that I left Odin to join other servers. They all end up shutting down and here we are in Odin private server, the last RO2 server up to my knowledge.

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Edited by Fugcker, 13 August 2017 - 02:39 PM.

There is not much left to fusion with, I don't know the point of your pictures. These people that comment saying literally nothing are funny, troll level -9999.

yeah... Last woe was like all dead... I just watched some videos recorded by players ... and there was nothing to do during woe... they was just running around, there was just a very few pvp, some players just changing owner of fortress between main and alt guild... It was a very sad WoE.... 

And funny part is that I just heard there was a kind of bug being used in south base of PF by that crescentia spamming skill on orb, in which s/he didn't receive damage (by being on top of orb, it seems like)... the same guild that have been accusing others... 

#cheaters4life

Don't dig deeper, you can't fight the mafia without proper weapons. I do encourage you to file tickets for any suspicious behaviours you see and record.

yeah... Last woe was like all dead... I just watched some videos recorded by players ... and there was nothing to do during woe... they was just running around, there was just a very few pvp, some players just changing owner of fortress between main and alt guild... It was a very sad WoE.... 

And funny part is that I just heard there was a kind of bug being used in south base of PF by that crescentia spamming skill on orb, in which s/he didn't receive damage (by being on top of orb, it seems like)... the same guild that have been accusing others... 

 

when *certain* guild changing fort between main and alt, its a sad woe, but when *other* guild do the same thing before, in same map, AND it was on CASTLE not fort, its a happy woe.. i see what you did there

when *certain* guild changing fort between main and alt, its a sad woe, but when *other* guild do the same thing before, in same map, AND it was on CASTLE not fort, its a happy woe.. i see what you did there

 

Hi BigNumber, o/

 

I really don't know HOW do you went with that conclusion based on what I said.... In both situation it is a sad and shame WoE... I think we agree on that, right??

 

Alt guild to secure/reset castle and map is for weak players which have no confidence and need to use that coward strategy (coward and unfortunately allowed, I know...)

 

I'm just not sure if you were talking about secure castle/reset map under pressure, which use to happen in PF since ever with *certain* main and alt guild... OR about secure castle/reset map in MF which that *other near to death guild* did some times.... But for sure, in both situations it is a sad WoE, a coward move and a non-competitive strategy.

Either way in the end result matters.
Just because some guild don't want join woe, and purposely making woe looks dead, it's always the winning guild fault right? Remember guild max number is always the same 100 peoples, if some can pull off one thing why don't others do the same? Oh and this thread is about ecalling in PF castle without breaking either 3 big standing gates, and what's your comment in that case? Even when this happened, pf holder didn't even once go to coward method that you mention, which is SECURE pf castle whole woe. Keep in mind who started playing secure castle at first. Just when they failed, blamed others used coward tactict and such - which is what they have been doing before whole woe.
Much hypocrisy.

Either way in the end result matters.
Just because some guild don't want join woe, and purposely making woe looks dead, it's always the winning guild fault right? Remember guild max number is always the same 100 peoples, if some can pull off one thing why don't others do the same? Oh and this thread is about ecalling in PF castle without breaking either 3 big standing gates, and what's your comment in that case? Even when this happened, pf holder didn't even once go to coward method that you mention, which is SECURE pf castle whole woe. Keep in mind who started playing secure castle at first. Just when they failed, blamed others used coward tactict and such - which is what they have been doing before whole woe.
Much hypocrisy.

 

Well, I've never said it is someone's fault... I'm only bringing some facts, as you did last comment about the *other* guild. 

 

Ya, I totally agree that ecalling in PF castle without breaking either 3 big standing gates wasn't/isn't correct.

 

If some main guild use an Alt guild to secure/reset map the whole WoE or in some specific moment of the war, it doesn't make it less coward and non-competitive, both are acting like that.

 

And I don't know if by saying "pf holder didn't once go to coward method" you meant use bugs to take advantage, because if you did I already mentioned that crescentia (from PF holder guild) spamming skill on the orb's south fortress in PF, so s/he can't be damaged by melee attacks, which makes it a little bit inconsistent (especially if we are gonna talk about hypocrisy, don't you think?).

 

Finally, if some guild mentality is " if someone did a bad move, so everybody can do it" it shows a huge lack of morality and fair play as well.

 

Kind regards ^.^

Edited by coffeelover, 21 August 2017 - 06:37 PM.

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Hey bok-boks, use GM powers to become immortals, spy on others, make them disconnect or put mysterious dots when and where it is convenient. Then come here talk about moral. Why do you think there is no longer competition in WOE? Don't answer the rhetorical question, you'll only talk crap. And bok-boks dare to say others are shameless, too much projection makes you look quite ridiculous.

I'll never get tired of this. As an old player, I have  been in 2 sides of this war, I honestly dont understand why everyone escapes from reality to -_-post over forums.

Lets face it 

 

In the side A , we got ourselves a group of players constantly switching guilds , thinking that will somehow attract new players to join, and new guild name will grant them all the woe knowledge they need. Also this group of player actually not doing anything to improve, just blaming in other guild for bug abusing and pretending like "Only if the others didnt abuse any bugs we would've won". Look at the history of woe, you are not achieving anything for last 3 years. Only single reason you were capable of holding some fort / castle was simply because you are "second" biggest group in the game. 

 

On the side B, there is a strong dominant guild that holds a map for last year and half, mostly extends to another map week by week, have very solid players, have experienced guild leaders/councils and far more better communication between its members. Homewer tho, the corner B is only strong because there are only 2 goddamn sides in this war and other side completely sucks. The so called "gaming community that has been up for nearly 4 years" is only capable of defeating some weak organization and act like they re doing a very good job in the mmo world. 

 

For both sides, my suggestion would be moving up and trying different stuff lol.

 

Edited by Sigilyph, 24 August 2017 - 03:39 AM.

Your point of view is biased, stop telling lies. Nobody thought changing guild name would give WOE knowledge, nobody is pretending "if others wouldn't abuse bug we would've won", and the guild/group of players who were holding Morroc and attacking PF did a lot more than any other active guild out there for the past year at least. What I am complaining about is obviously fair-play during PvP that is non-existent in WOE, and one guild clearly dominating that area too. I wish for a fair-play respectable community, I only see the opposite and it's repugnant. Don't change the way you are bok-boks, you'll end up forever alone in WOE maps with your pet guilds.

But hey, bok-boks make good videos they upload on youtube and I'm sure they pay some money every now and then. WP is pleased. Irony is, their client in the official download page and in Steam is outdated by months and doesn't work. If they thought the content players put up on the media would bring positive reviews and opinions and bring in new players into the game, they might be just wrong lel. Enjoy the videos for an empty one-sided PvP community, though!

Edited by 5318130516144610857, 24 August 2017 - 08:50 AM.

Your point of view is biased, stop telling lies. Nobody thought changing guild name would give WOE knowledge, nobody is pretending "if others wouldn't abuse bug we would've won", and the guild/group of players who were holding Morroc and attacking PF did a lot more than any other active guild out there for the past year at least.

 

Please explain how I am lying? Anyone playing game longer than a few months would have enough proof what I said above is not a lie. I have decent amount of complaints before how the guild "actually" claimed they only "lose because of bugs" or "they always have to outnumber us" . 

 

Lets begin ; 

 

There is a good amount of players from side A , that passionately hates side B , but changed like 5 guilds already and couldnt manage anything yet still trying and thinking complaining about it will do them any good. Irony is, they keep the same council and somehow their members gets the blame eventually and they end up joining group B. ( Can count more than 20 names. ) 

 

 It is very clear that Side B doesnt care about doing alot of stuff unless they keep the specific map. We all know what happened when that guild left prontera to attack morroc completely. Related post about that can be seen in their recruitment page. Also in the very same week, the very same guild ended up capturing all 7 structures in the woe map and closed 2015 with a decent victory. You are talking about fair play not existing during woe's , but hell, a guild can capture 2 maps on its own versus several guilds. Woe wasnt dead back then eh ? 

 

Ask yourself, howcome for past 3 years, you are completely failing to do anything useful that your only brag is "grats on some fort" while another guild celebrates having 2 castles and 3 forts at the same time and keep making records ? I guess its because you are not as good as they are, but you always have an excuse. 

 

Lets get to " guild/group of players who were holding Morroc and attacking PF did a lot more than any other active guild out there for the past year at least" part. Please simply tell me whatever you have done during that time . Althought my memory is very good on the guild history of RO2,I dont remember anything special about it. Last thing I remember is Side A has nothing left to lose so they attack to prontera blindly. What have you done truly except for feeding prontera map owner ? Did you give them any good fights? Or just continuously headbutted the maingate and failed to open it week after week ? I was a member of side A for a very long time and I exactly know how it went. 

 

Lets get to the morale part. None of guilds playing woe has to worry about making it competitive. Side B focuses to play win, minimizing the risk by playing defensive and Side A are actually complaining about it simply because Side B overpowers Side A in all aspects. 

Necessarily, side B has no problems with smaller / newmade / improving guilds , hence thats why they do not always attack to the morroc map and ruin the game mode for everyone. Homewer tho, side a is actually afraid of humiliations so they have to attack smaller guilds to at least secure a fort , I'd say reconsider your fair playness. ( Also please do not bring trashtalk issue here. You have wonderful option of blocking a player and move on. Besides, trashtalking is a right earned by the victor for going out there and win it. Support also handles the "out of line" trashtalk so this is another biased argument about their fairplayness.)

 

 

Besides, it is war, wars doesnt necessarily have to be fair play, you can really expect to a guild with more numbers and experience win easily, which is what happening for past 3 years. If all of you remaining groups merge and cant defeat them, I'd say truly think about what are you doing wrong. The equalism is about the opportunities, not the outcome. They use same items as you do, they have same classes as you do. The guilds shares similar buffs and skills . 

 

 

So, check your facts twice and look for an alternative way to reality, this is not the way you are going to defeat side B. 

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Boom bok boks hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Please explain how I am lying? Anyone playing game longer than a few months would have enough proof what I said above is not a lie. I have decent amount of complaints before how the guild "actually" claimed they only "lose because of bugs" or "they always have to outnumber us" . 

 

Lets begin ; 

 

There is a good amount of players from side A , that passionately hates side B , but changed like 5 guilds already and couldnt manage anything yet still trying and thinking complaining about it will do them any good. Irony is, they keep the same council and somehow their members gets the blame eventually and they end up joining group B. ( Can count more than 20 names. ) 

 

 It is very clear that Side B doesnt care about doing alot of stuff unless they keep the specific map. We all know what happened when that guild left prontera to attack morroc completely. Related post about that can be seen in their recruitment page. Also in the very same week, the very same guild ended up capturing all 7 structures in the woe map and closed 2015 with a decent victory. You are talking about fair play not existing during woe's , but hell, a guild can capture 2 maps on its own versus several guilds. Woe wasnt dead back then eh ? 

 

Ask yourself, howcome for past 3 years, you are completely failing to do anything useful that your only brag is "grats on some fort" while another guild celebrates having 2 castles and 3 forts at the same time and keep making records ? I guess its because you are not as good as they are, but you always have an excuse. 

 

Lets get to " guild/group of players who were holding Morroc and attacking PF did a lot more than any other active guild out there for the past year at least" part. Please simply tell me whatever you have done during that time . Althought my memory is very good on the guild history of RO2,I dont remember anything special about it. Last thing I remember is Side A has nothing left to lose so they attack to prontera blindly. What have you done truly except for feeding prontera map owner ? Did you give them any good fights? Or just continuously headbutted the maingate and failed to open it week after week ? I was a member of side A for a very long time and I exactly know how it went. 

 

Lets get to the morale part. None of guilds playing woe has to worry about making it competitive. Side B focuses to play win, minimizing the risk by playing defensive and Side A are actually complaining about it simply because Side B overpowers Side A in all aspects. 

Necessarily, side B has no problems with smaller / newmade / improving guilds , hence thats why they do not always attack to the morroc map and ruin the game mode for everyone. Homewer tho, side a is actually afraid of humiliations so they have to attack smaller guilds to at least secure a fort , I'd say reconsider your fair playness. ( Also please do not bring trashtalk issue here. You have wonderful option of blocking a player and move on. Besides, trashtalking is a right earned by the victor for going out there and win it. Support also handles the "out of line" trashtalk so this is another biased argument about their fairplayness.)

 

 

Besides, it is war, wars doesnt necessarily have to be fair play, you can really expect to a guild with more numbers and experience win easily, which is what happening for past 3 years. If all of you remaining groups merge and cant defeat them, I'd say truly think about what are you doing wrong. The equalism is about the opportunities, not the outcome. They use same items as you do, they have same classes as you do. The guilds shares similar buffs and skills . 

 

 

So, check your facts twice and look for an alternative way to reality, this is not the way you are going to defeat side B. 

Whoever you are, YOU nailed it!

Speaking of numbers, is 100 greater than 150? QQ

So many lies and biased opinions. I'm not going to argue with someone who brings things that happen in 2015 during a time in which I was probably absent from the game. Yep, it is a war and your side stepped up in the game in cheating to levels far beyond any moral excuse or mindframe can explain. Enjoy your castles and forts, mafiosi.

You speak as if I represent alone a whole side so beware with the way you express your opinions about it because first of all I rarely had any influence on the decisions that were made to the side I was in. If you've played during that long in what I think it would be the guilds I was in, you should know this. Speak of group A and B instead.
 

Besides, trashtalking is a right earned by the victor for going out there and win it.

lol, nice one! I can't beat that mentality. That must be why you bok-boks all so silent after wiping, at least you are coherent with your trashtalking mentalities I'll give you that credit.
 

You wanna get a castle? Here's how you get it. He pulls a cheating-knife, you pull a cheating-gun. He sends one of yours to the temporary ban-land, you send one of his to the perm-ban land! That's the Chicago way, and that's how you get WOE castle!

Movie quote edited to RO2 game, GG WP. Be proud of your guild!

So many lies and biased opinions. I'm not going to argue with someone who brings things that happen in 2015 during a time in which I was probably absent from the game. Yep, it is a war and your side stepped up in the game in cheating to levels far beyond any moral excuse or mindframe can explain. Enjoy your castles and forts, mafiosi.

You speak as if I represent alone a whole side so beware with the way you express your opinions about it because first of all I rarely had any influence on the decisions that were made to the side I was in. If you've played during that long in what I think it would be the guilds I was in, you should know this. Speak of group A and B instead.
 

lol, nice one! I can't beat that mentality. That must be why you bok-boks all so silent after wiping, at least you are coherent with your trashtalking mentalities I'll give you that credit.
 

Movie quote edited to RO2 game, GG WP. Be proud of your guild!

 

Do you have any proof that they actually cheat ?                                          I dont think so.

Does warpportal actually consider your proofs as legit evidence ?               I dont think so.

Does it matter if you were absent in late 2015 ?                                            Not at all.

Have you noticed I actually judged the Guild B aswell ?                                Probably not .

Your only defense related to this matter is I talk biased and tell lies?            I guess so.

Why your only excuse is guild b cheating ?                                                   Read my second post again.

Are you actually arguing ?                                                                              Nah you just say bok bok cheat liar biased opinions.

Did I actually say you are fully representing group A ?                                  No.

Did I  mention I was a long term player of group A before?                           Yes.

Did you read that part?                                                                                   No lol 

Does group B enjoy their castles and forts?                                                   Probably, this is the victory gift of WoE.

Do I see anything else but excuses in your posts?                                        Absolutely not.

Should I take you serious ?                                                                            Probably not.

 

 

Personal note : You are making this too easy for me.