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#1 Ripiz

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Posted 16 December 2010 - 02:07 AM

Hello. I'm coming back to Requiem. Seems there's new patch, skills changed, and my skills were reset, so I'm trying to make new build. I'd like build that works well in both: PvE and PvP.
I checked few builds by other people and made my one: http://img84.imagesh...38/42568403.jpg
Any comments/thoughts if it's any good?
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Posted 16 December 2010 - 02:29 AM

DISCLAIMER - this is all observational, I've not played a commie except for the 15 minutes when I JC'd my prot back at the 'Great Prot Nerfing' months ago >.<

Quick Attack L10? I'd imagine with 1-handed mastery you'd hit harder with a 1-H weapon (or so I've heard)... so you could save points and go for L4 or 5 and use 1-H sword or axe.

DNA can go up to L10 now for a lot of skills, and there is DNA for a lot more of the skills too - try the skill calculater at www.kruxena.com, I think that's more up to date (though it never works for me).

A lot of people max swift cast DNA on Beam Slash so it can be instant-cast while on the move. Ranged attack that ignores defence and crits hard is win for PvP I guess. I'd invest more skill points too, rather than just L1 if this is the case (I assume it adds enough damage to be worth it).

L5 Shield Strike - I guess that's a personal choice... I'd prefer more points in it to get the higher hit chance - it's one of the very few ways a commie has of stopping kiting casters, so I'd personally want that extra hit chance.

For DNA, I'd improve on your defence buffs (passive ones first so no soccer kicking from sins) till you have 2800-3000 short and long range defence - there's a cap around there for negating autoattack damage (although I'm certain having more helps when tanking bosses, I'd not put that down to a Commander's top priorities).

Talking of tanking, some people claim L1 taunt is enough as long as you spam it a lot.. Other commanders I know have the area one L5 or 6. Depends on how you want to play.
I've heard the area taunt can take sins out of stealth for a long time, PvP usage there :)

I'd take Promise of Victory only L1 ... the extra points are not worth it IMO. It's ~2.6k accuracy for just L1, good enough :) Also, accuracy only affects autoattack, not skills (idk if you know this already, just trying to cover everything).

I'd max Rush (or at least to its max range), same for chain of restraint - they're the only ways of getting close to kiting casters.

Face Strike, Adamantant Mind - max, goes without saying.

Lastly, you've picked a real bad time to come back to Requiem heh (although things were worse a couple weeks back). Don't expect things to be any better than when you left!

I hope some of this is useful, but don't take it as good advice - this is just how I'd build a Commander right now. It'd very likely need tweaks!

P.S. If you're coming back from Season 1, any equipment you have will be worth A LOT now... be careful to get a good price if you sell it...
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Posted 16 December 2010 - 02:52 AM

Hello. I'm coming back to Requiem. Seems there's new patch, skills changed, and my skills were reset, so I'm trying to make new build. I'd like build that works well in both: PvE and PvP.
I checked few builds by other people and made my one: http://img84.imagesh...38/42568403.jpg
Any comments/thoughts if it's any good?


I'm guessing you're level capped already?
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#4 Ripiz

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Posted 16 December 2010 - 03:02 AM

I'm guessing you're level capped already?

No, but at least I'll know what to get, because before I fully messed up my skills.

Quick Attack L10? I'd imagine with 1-handed mastery you'd hit harder with a 1-H weapon (or so I've heard)... so you could save points and go for L4 or 5 and use 1-H sword or axe.

Won't I have 0.5 second attack speed, if I take sword (1.5 second if I remember correctly) and use -1.0 second buff? 1H Mastery is maxed.

Talking of tanking, some people claim L1 taunt is enough as long as you spam it a lot.. Other commanders I know have the area one L5 or 6. Depends on how you want to play.
I've heard the area taunt can take sins out of stealth for a long time, PvP usage there :)

I'd prefer to be DPS type in parties, not tank.

Lastly, you've picked a real bad time to come back to Requiem heh (although things were worse a couple weeks back). Don't expect things to be any better than when you left!

What's so bad about Requiem now? 0.o Yes, there was bad stuff back when I played, but I doubt it can be worse now.

P.S. If you're coming back from Season 1, any equipment you have will be worth A LOT now... be careful to get a good price if you sell it...

My equipment isn't really good, only Amplio Gordium set (lv40 chain)(I plan skills ahead so I don't mess up). But.. What did they do to Requiem, that makes you say that? 0.o


Anyways, based on your tips, I tried to make new build. With this planner I lack a lot of SP and DNA. I feel like it's worse than before. Anymore comments on it?

Edited by Ripiz, 16 December 2010 - 03:03 AM.

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Posted 16 December 2010 - 03:31 AM

Won't I have 0.5 second attack speed, if I take sword (1.5 second if I remember correctly) and use -1.0 second buff? 1H Mastery is maxed.

No, attack speed can't get less than 1.0sec.

What's so bad about Requiem now? 0.o Yes, there was bad stuff back when I played, but I doubt it can be worse now.

I don't want to go off-topic, best play the game and decide for yourself :)

My equipment isn't really good, only Amplio Gordium set (lv40 chain)(I plan skills ahead so I don't mess up). But.. What did they do to Requiem, that makes you say that? 0.o

Season 2 equipment in a lot of cases is nowhere near as good as Season 1.
S1 stuff doesn't drop any more, so it's rare. Even if the S2 counterpart is better there are collectors about that still pay decent money for S1 gear.

Anyways, based on your tips, I tried to make new build. With this planner I lack a lot of SP and DNA. I feel like it's worse than before. Anymore comments on it?

I really don't know... Like I said I've not really played Commander. End of the day a skill reset is $5, or prob 3mil in-game if you can find a seller (idk current prices).

I made this...
If I was to skill a 79 Commander for a hybrid PvE / PvP build right now, I'd do that. Maybe take some DNA out of extended skills and put 1-H Mastery DNA to L10 instead of 6.. it's ~30 more damage... I dunno. There's 9 skill points left for whatever else - I'd try the build out and put them where I felt needed from there.
You'd better get some advice from someone that's played one :)

Edited by tally, 16 December 2010 - 03:36 AM.

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#6 Ripiz

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Posted 18 December 2010 - 09:30 PM

Seems everyone agree on maxing out Skin of Stone and Survival Instinct. I guess I'll get those until I figure out other skills XD
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