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#26 yeoldknight

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 11:40 AM

Once again! People if you have advice or any changes need made that you see, PLEASE INFORM ME!
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Posted 23 December 2010 - 12:39 PM

Just FYI - this is not the way to get the highest ap. Not many will give their exact skill and stat builds... and i'm not going to do the work for you either - but just wanted to point this out for new people.

uhmm ive actually resetted plenty of times just to check it out prob a good 8 times and this is the highest ap i know so far
8160ap=15 HWM d7,Full chiv -5d7s and a doc bs
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Posted 23 December 2010 - 12:40 PM

I'm pretty sure I have a great build,
350 Str
220 Dex
200 Con
Rest into random stats haha
How does that sound?


yeah that will give you better ap that what was quoted before

Edited by Wirts, 23 December 2010 - 12:42 PM.

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 12:44 PM

uhmm ive actually resetted plenty of times just to check it out prob a good 8 times and this is the highest ap i know so far
8160ap=15 HWM d7,Full chiv -5d7s and a doc bs


Either you need to go back and check your math or that ratios given are not correct and have changed since they were posted a while back.
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Posted 23 December 2010 - 12:47 PM

Either you need to go back and check your math or that ratios given are not correct and have changed since they were posted a while back.

duno thats my ap with the gear i posted with that same build
i tryed the old stat build saying
Enough to hold weapon
60-80 sense
120-140 dex
200ish con
dosnt have the same ap as the one i posted (keep in mind ap isnt alot anyways so i wouldnt recommended this build)
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Posted 23 December 2010 - 12:56 PM

duno thats my ap with the gear i posted with that same build
i tryed the old stat build saying
Enough to hold weapon
60-80 sense
120-140 dex
200ish con
dosnt have the same ap as the one i posted (keep in mind ap isnt alot anyways so i wouldnt recommended this build)

Lol, you build sucks brah, i only have 4 d7's and a HWM(11) hardened , chiv chest, and d7 lava/ferell set. And i already have
7.6k ap .. :lol:
I'll post a pic of it soon.
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Posted 23 December 2010 - 12:58 PM

duno thats my ap with the gear i posted with that same build
i tryed the old stat build saying
Enough to hold weapon
60-80 sense
120-140 dex
200ish con
dosnt have the same ap as the one i posted (keep in mind ap isnt alot anyways so i wouldnt recommended this build)

you are missing some stat points somewhere with that one - you should be able to get higher than 120-140 dex
(if you want you can pm since we are both in 2swords - I have an excel sheet where I can run the calcuations for you if you want to test it)
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Posted 23 December 2010 - 08:15 PM

you are missing some stat points somewhere with that one - you should be able to get higher than 120-140 dex
(if you want you can pm since we are both in 2swords - I have an excel sheet where I can run the calcuations for you if you want to test it)

Don't share your secrets man, just be the best you can be. What you need to do, is just give him an outline and leave him with that. :lol:
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Posted 23 December 2010 - 08:52 PM

Nice you managed to gather everyone's experience and put it in this thread. You got a few mistakes, 340 str is not enough to hold a sword and 350 is not enough to hold an axe if your referring to base stats. You can mention what are the ideal items/gear for a champion as well. Also it is advicable to add left-over stats to sen regardless of what weapon build you take to avoid getting critted as much from others. Otherwise this is an exceptional basic/fundamental guide.

Thanks for the input! ^^
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Posted 24 December 2010 - 03:41 AM

Don't share your secrets man, just be the best you can be. What you need to do, is just give him an outline and leave him with that. :D

:blink: :huh: :lol: :lol: :(
isn't that a fun smiley face... :)

They are not my secrets - it's not even my build except for maybe a few farming characters. But it is a mathmatical calculation to maximize the attack power of your stat build. You can guess if you want to and you'll probably be close - i guess i'm just a numbers person

I thought Draconis people were all about their small community and enjoying "learning" the game. It sounds like you want me to play your character for you.
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Posted 24 December 2010 - 07:10 AM

:) :D :blink: :lol: :lol:
isn't that a fun smiley face... :(

They are not my secrets - it's not even my build except for maybe a few farming characters. But it is a mathmatical calculation to maximize the attack power of your stat build. You can guess if you want to and you'll probably be close - i guess i'm just a numbers person

I thought Draconis people were all about their small community and enjoying "learning" the game. It sounds like you want me to play your character for you.

Wait what the hell? How do you get that i want you to play my character from saying keep your own build?-_-
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Posted 07 January 2011 - 03:25 PM

All skills what you have mentioned in 1st job has to be maxed?
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Posted 11 January 2011 - 01:10 PM

It would be nice if you can include information of which weapon best used for pvp/pvm for champion.
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Posted 20 January 2011 - 04:48 PM

i like how everyone has over looked the accuracy portion of the camp build. Honestly I only have 7.6k with mine but my accuracy if I'm not mistaken was like 2600+ and it's been awhile since I played because my account was hacked. 5 levels worth of stat points would be an interesting thing to play with now.

Edited by JustinHaze, 20 January 2011 - 04:49 PM.

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Posted 04 February 2011 - 04:06 AM

I'm pretty sure I have a great build,
350 Str
220 Dex
200 Con
Rest into random stats haha
How does that sound?


Bad.
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Posted 05 February 2011 - 05:05 PM

Bad.

Lol sure.. When did they unlock this post? Can we get it locked again? please!
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Posted 05 February 2011 - 05:31 PM

Lol sure.. When did they unlock this post? Can we get it locked again? please!


It wasn't a joke..but if ur happy with that just use it, lol.
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Posted 21 February 2011 - 04:27 PM

Since I almost dont pvp anymore, here goes my "secret" build:

I see a lof of ppl saying: "con 180+, con lvl -10, con it, con that"

here is the secret: 20 con
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Posted 21 February 2011 - 05:03 PM

2W: with buff
8100+ atp
2550+ acc
12k+ def
26k+ hp
i though this's not bad.
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Posted 29 May 2011 - 12:13 PM

updated -_-
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Posted 16 June 2011 - 10:39 AM

Hello there my character name is YeOldKnight. I am a pretty well known champion on the draconis server.
I will have 6 numbers of guides.
1. Soldier job change
2. What Soldier skills to learn
3. What stats to add
4. Where to train
5. Champion job change
6. What Champion skills to learn
7. Where to train past 100

Spear champ - best for PvM
Sword champ - best for PvP (imo)
Axe champ - good for PvP (Good ap but low accuracy)

Monster Strength Levels
|.........Strong...........|..........Medium..............|.............Weak.........|
| Purple | Pink | Red | Orange | Yellow | Green | Blue | Azure | Grey |
* The stronger the monsters, the more experience yeilded.



1...
*Once you get to level 3-10 go talk to Mariard[Akram Kingdom Minister], he is located in Adventurers Plains on the docks. He will give you a identification.

*After you obtain your identification make your way to the Canyon City of Zant.

*Look for Warren[Akram Kingdom Minister], he will give you your quest to change your job to a soldier.

*You will be sent to Leonard, after you talk to him you will be givin an assignment to kill honey bees, they are located in the southern portion of the town.

*After completing this, go back to Leonard, he will send you to kill elder pumpkins, these are found in Valley of Luxeum Tower.

*As you talk to Leonard, he will tell you good job, ect. Then you will head back to Warren. Abra kadabra you are a soldier.

2...
In order they should be learned
*Melee wepon mastery
*Melee Double attack
*Defence Training (optional, helps to stay alive)
*Staminal Assist
*Power OverFlow
*Two handed wepon mastery
*Any one of the three wepon mastery (Two Handed Sword Mastery, Spear Mastery, Axe Mastery)

*Branches to 1. PvM 2. PvP

1. PvM
*Heavy Attack
*Spin attack
*Peircing Lunge
*Voltage Scream
*After this save skill points for level 100
2. PvP
*Axe Launcher
*Leaping Axe Strike
*After this save skill points for level 100

3...
* Champions Stats -
Two Handed Melee Weapons (Axe, Spear, Sword): 1 str = 0.65 AP
1 dex = 0.35 AP
1 sen = 0.1 AP

One Handed Melee Weapons (Mace, Sword): 1 str = 0.65 AP
1 dex = 0.35 AP
1 sen = 0.1 AP

Crossbow: 1 str = 0.65 AP
1 dex = 0.35 AP
1 sen = 0.1 AP

These ratios do not take class AP passives into consideration.

1 con = 1.25 acc
1 str = 0.33 def
1 str = 2 HP
1 dex = 1.25 dodge
1 sen = 1 crit
1 con = 0.2 crit
1 int = 4 MP
1 int = 0.5 Magic Defense
(Thank you brownbear!)

1.Strength - adds attack power to all 3 wepon types, Adds hp, Adds defence, Adds max weight
2.Dexterity - Adds Dodge, Adds minor attack power to champion wepons(good for farming)
3.Concentration - add accuracy(Keep this about equal to your level. E.G. level 100 champ has 100 con)
4.Intellegence - TOTALLY POINTLESS FOR CHAMPIONS(Do not add this, it will not help you at all)
5.Charm - Yet Another pointless stat to add
6.Sense - Adds critical and little amounts of ap (not recommended)


*Good build -
1. Spear - 335 Strength, 200 Dexterity, 200 Concentration
2. Sword - 345 Strength, 180 Concentration, 220 dex
3. Axe - 360 Strength, 180 Concentration, 200 (Sense from what i have been told)
4. ATTACK POWER BUILD - Max str (400) & rest into dex

4...
*Good spots to train -
1. Level 1-10 Adventurers Plains, Jelly beans, choropys, and flanae (you could also venture into the Valley Of Luxeum Tower and kill pumpkins)
2. Level 10-20 Canyon City of Zant, (Woopies and Bees)
3. Level 20-30 El Verloon Desert, (Rackies, Beetles, Turtles)
4. Level 30-40 City of Junon Polis, (Moldies)
5. Level 40-45 Forest of Wisdom, (Smoulys and clowns)
6. Level 45-70 Kenji Beach, (Doongas and Krawfies)
7. Level 70-80 Gorge of Silence, (Stone golems and other mobs you may find)
8. Level 70-100 Desert of the Dead, Pumpkins and Anteres (PvP Zone be very carefull of Pkers), Goblin Caves B2 and B3

5...
*Level 100, 2nd job change(Advanced Classes)
1. Once you reach level 100, go to The City of Junon Polis, find the mayor(in the middle of the town by the big fountain) Darren. Talk to him, he will tell
you where to go.
2. Go to [Wepon Merchant] Crune, he will tell you to go kill supreme krawfie kings, only one is required.
3. Go back to [Wepon Merchant] Crune, then he will send you to Leonard in Zant.
4. Leonard will send you to kill 5 supreme goblin warriors, (goblin caves B2)
5. Go back to Leonard, he will send you to [Wepon Craftsman] Mairath in Breezy Hills, Mairath will send you to Gorge of Silence to kill ONE supreme stone golem.
6. Go back to Mairath, he will send you to [Historian] Jones, then he will give you a recommendation to take to the Mayor.
7. Take the recommendation to the Mayor, and he will make you a champion.

6...
*Champion skills to learn (In order of importance)
1. PvM
*Advanced Two Hand Mastery
*The Advanced wepon mastery you learned as a soldier ( Advanced handed Sword Mastery, Advanced Spear Mastery, Advanced Axe Mastery)

*Berserk
*Battle Sense Mastery
*Combat Resilience
*Combat Cry
*Seismic impact
*Achilles Heel Strike
*Champion Spirit
*Space Attack
*Blood Attack
*Quick Step
*(make sure you have all of your hp passives found in the common skill tree)

2. PvP
*Advanced Two Hand Mastery
*Advanced wepon mastery(Continued from soldier class)
*Berserk
*Champion Hit
*Slugger
*Blood Attack
*Battle Sense Mastery
*Melee Combat Mastery
*Combat Resiliance
*Combat Cry
*Champion Spirit
*Soundless Vacuum
*(make sure you have all of your hp passives found in the common skill tree)

7...
*Where to train past level 100
1. 100- 110 Desert Of the Dead, Anteres and giant anteres
2. 110-155 Oblivion Temple (find random areas with a lot of mobs to aoe)
3. 155- 210 Sikuku Underground Prison
4. 190- 215, Sikuku ruins (spiders)
5. 215-220 Either Desert Scavenger Pack leaders or Ruins (spiders again)










*****Not All of my info is correct or stated, I will update frequently with new information*****

nice thing :waddle:
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Posted 16 June 2011 - 10:41 AM

nice thing :P

Thanks man :waddle:
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Posted 16 June 2011 - 11:01 AM

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Posted 16 June 2011 - 12:28 PM

Maybe this is a dumb question, sen used to increase the attack power of the skills, does it still?
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Posted 16 June 2011 - 12:55 PM

Maybe this is a dumb question, sen used to increase the attack power of the skills, does it still?

No i don't think so, not too sure though.
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