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#201 Hagges

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 11:14 PM

YOU PROMISED US A COSTUME!!!

 

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#202 Masterpiece

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 11:42 PM

It makes quite a big impact and the fact that they don't expire on death is what separates them from the normal food.
It's way more acceptable now that VIP players can have the buff for the duration of WoE without paying.

What's your point? As I've already stated they made it more accessible to everyone. It's not just VIP it's regular players too, they only have to pay twice. Although it is confusing that this server has +10 buffs and Atk/matk vs Chaos/Renewal which only has +7 stat buffs. 

Fact is you pay 75k at current silverine prices and you spend that 2 times a woe. for 1 month that totals up to 600k a month for foods during woe. WOW so brokenly o/p. Even a chimp can afford 600k a month.

 

Now let's take it a step further. Let's say you want to utilize all 3 each day assuming you play 5 days a week. It'd cost 5-6.8 m if you actually some how play 3 hours a day 7 days a week around 6.8m. Still way cheaper then buying WPE to get vip. 

 

 

No one should be complaining about pay to win on a server as balanced as this. 

Also aren't you the same guy who suggested they bring out Pencils and other mid/lower head gears? (Which is a horrible idea)

 

The moment GMs start rolling out anything that resembles any of the previous lucky boxes including even some of the first ones that came out. All of those are garbage and should they come to existence then you can start complaining. Which they will undoubtedly will in the near future.

 

If gms want to do things right, they should start doing Harder to get Items for the new silverine head gears. Like ogre tooth or brigan or even Alice Aprons. That way the average Joe has a bargaining tool to stop p2w from getting his way by jacking up prices when they feel like it. It has to be things bots don't commonly get. Maybe even Elu ori for all i care.

 

It'd sure make things a lot more interesting. Because instead of just buying the crap from bots and using silverine. They'd think twice about buying the alt material and consider farming it out. Which is what the average Joe is already most likely doing.


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#203 Ryuuz0

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 01:17 AM

You guys made it way too cheap
 

instead of 25 Silvervine do > 100 Silvervine, and 100k > 300k
I also think no one will buy the Kafra foods on the ishop anymore since you lose it if you die

And the 1h food at the silvervine npc gives you it for free+ you dont lose it if you die + all stats +10 lol
and only 25 silvervines..

 


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#204 Masterpiece

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 02:53 AM

I think that was the whole point... Accessibility... Making it "fair" for everyone. As long as prices stay the same which they most wont. If anything silverine will sky rocket if bots are legit down for the count. 


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#205 FatalityX

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 04:21 AM

Stat Resets available soon I hope, I have already messed up my stats! :P

 

Wouldnt mind a stat reset box, or Magical stones type thing that valk had.


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Posted 14 September 2017 - 05:51 AM

Stat Resets available soon I hope, I have already messed up my stats! :P

 

Wouldnt mind a stat reset box, or Magical stones type thing that valk had.

 

Stat reset is already available. It's called Neuralizer and can be bought for 400 KP from the cash shop (page 2, "Other")


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Posted 14 September 2017 - 06:06 AM

Stat reset is already available. It's called Neuralizer and can be bought for 400 KP from the cash shop (page 2, "Other")

Nope, Neuralizer is only for Skills not Stats ...


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Posted 14 September 2017 - 06:28 AM

What's your point? As I've already stated they made it more accessible to everyone. It's not just VIP it's regular players too, they only have to pay twice. Although it is confusing that this server has +10 buffs and Atk/matk vs Chaos/Renewal which only has +7 stat buffs. 

Fact is you pay 75k at current silverine prices and you spend that 2 times a woe. for 1 month that totals up to 600k a month for foods during woe. WOW so brokenly o/p. Even a chimp can afford 600k a month.

 

Now let's take it a step further. Let's say you want to utilize all 3 each day assuming you play 5 days a week. It'd cost 5-6.8 m if you actually some how play 3 hours a day 7 days a week around 6.8m. Still way cheaper then buying WPE to get vip. 

 

 

No one should be complaining about pay to win on a server as balanced as this. 

Also aren't you the same guy who suggested they bring out Pencils and other mid/lower head gears? (Which is a horrible idea)

 

The moment GMs start rolling out anything that resembles any of the previous lucky boxes including even some of the first ones that came out. All of those are garbage and should they come to existence then you can start complaining. Which they will undoubtedly will in the near future.

 

If gms want to do things right, they should start doing Harder to get Items for the new silverine head gears. Like ogre tooth or brigan or even Alice Aprons. That way the average Joe has a bargaining tool to stop p2w from getting his way by jacking up prices when they feel like it. It has to be things bots don't commonly get. Maybe even Elu ori for all i care.

 

It'd sure make things a lot more interesting. Because instead of just buying the crap from bots and using silverine. They'd think twice about buying the alt material and consider farming it out. Which is what the average Joe is already most likely doing.

 

The problem is that this was mandatory for WoE for any serious player, but they changed it so VIP could get the buff for free. Being forced to buy a buff to stay on the same level as others is the definition of pay to win.

I never said anything about pencils, but you're arguing that stats don't really matter and that wizards suck in your other thread where you're lobbying for strong headgears. What difference would 2 dex make?


 


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Posted 14 September 2017 - 07:23 AM

Meanwhile Revo Classic pRO is receiving Sage,Alchemist,Crusader,Monk and Rogue at the same time(and they didn't started first).

 

If this is true and the iRO team has flexibility on releasing the 2-2's here I would definitely like to see bard added to the monk+sage release next week.

Bards make the game so much more fun and dynamic for both pvm and woe.

 

The 2-2's could be broken up into 3 chunks: (all 3 of these releases would also result in meta shifts in WoE, rather than the tedious/bland 1 class at a time)

 

1. Sage + Monk + Bard

2. Alchemist + Crusader

3. Rogue + Dancer


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Posted 14 September 2017 - 07:36 AM

If this is true and the iRO team has flexibility on releasing the 2-2's here I would definitely like to see bard added to the monk+sage release next week.

Bards make the game so much more fun and dynamic for both pvm and woe.

 

The 2-2's could be broken up into 3 chunks: (all 3 of these releases would also result in meta shifts in WoE, rather than the tedious/bland 1 class at a time)

 

1. Sage + Monk + Bard

2. Alchemist + Crusader

3. Rogue + Dancer

 

Yeah,as much as i want to play as Rogue,i should agree with those chunks.

 

I just hope they can deal with the bots before releasing alchemist,it's not fun as a rogue if everyone can get easy divest protection 


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Posted 14 September 2017 - 07:53 AM

If this is true and the iRO team has flexibility on releasing the 2-2's here I would definitely like to see bard added to the monk+sage release next week.

Bards make the game so much more fun and dynamic for both pvm and woe.

 

The 2-2's could be broken up into 3 chunks: (all 3 of these releases would also result in meta shifts in WoE, rather than the tedious/bland 1 class at a time)

 

1. Sage + Monk + Bard

2. Alchemist + Crusader

3. Rogue + Dancer

 

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 07:55 AM

If this is true and the iRO team has flexibility on releasing the 2-2's here I would definitely like to see bard added to the monk+sage release next week.

Bards make the game so much more fun and dynamic for both pvm and woe.

 

The 2-2's could be broken up into 3 chunks: (all 3 of these releases would also result in meta shifts in WoE, rather than the tedious/bland 1 class at a time)

 

1. Sage + Monk + Bard

2. Alchemist + Crusader

3. Rogue + Dancer

 

This please  :p_smile:


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Posted 14 September 2017 - 03:15 PM

The problem is that this was mandatory for WoE for any serious player, but they changed it so VIP could get the buff for free. Being forced to buy a buff to stay on the same level as others is the definition of pay to win.

I never said anything about pencils, but you're arguing that stats don't really matter and that wizards suck in your other thread where you're lobbying for strong headgears. What difference would 2 dex make?


 

none actually, that's why I changed my stance if you didn't notice... Like it says on that thread. I didn't think i'd come to that conclusion.


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Posted 14 September 2017 - 03:29 PM

Exactly, and my problem was only when this buff was on an 8 hour cooldown for VIP. I think it's fair now.


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Posted 14 September 2017 - 05:50 PM

Losing that bonus -50% exp on death, meaning VIP users will now also lose exp when we die right? :(


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#216 Hagges

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 09:31 PM

Losing that bonus -50% exp on death, meaning VIP users will now also lose exp when we die right? :(


yes! and I have to say: No-Death-Penality is the worst for every Priest. We beraly get any money from parties and most of our money has to be spend on blue gemstones...
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#217 Masterpiece

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 11:14 PM

get good at priest and you wont have to use gem stones :P


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Posted 14 September 2017 - 11:54 PM

get good at priest and you wont have to use gem stones :P

 

yeah, well, say that to mobbing retards at anolians who don't care to die because of NDP-Event but cry like little girls if they won't get ressurection instantly even though I'm on the other side of the map  :rolleyes:


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Posted 15 September 2017 - 05:39 AM

Can you guys stop adding overpowered P2W things like +10 stat buffs and WoE Potions that are mostly cash shop only?

 

 buy 100 sv for 300k zeny and change it to 800 woe pots

  or regular player = beggar and awkwad ?

 

 whats is overpowered in this thing?


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#220 FatalityX

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Posted 15 September 2017 - 08:03 AM

VIP buff should be like it is on Chaos... Im logging in and playing only for that 1 hour everyday now :(


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Posted 15 September 2017 - 11:26 AM

Nope, Neuralizer is only for Skills not Stats ...

 

Yeah sorry I posted that right after I woke up, my brain wasn't really working x_x


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Posted 15 September 2017 - 05:43 PM

VIP buff should be like it is on Chaos... Im logging in and playing only for that 1 hour everyday now :(

 

What is it on chaos?


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Posted 15 September 2017 - 05:52 PM

If this is true and the iRO team has flexibility on releasing the 2-2's here I would definitely like to see bard added to the monk+sage release next week.

Bards make the game so much more fun and dynamic for both pvm and woe.

 

The 2-2's could be broken up into 3 chunks: (all 3 of these releases would also result in meta shifts in WoE, rather than the tedious/bland 1 class at a time)

 

1. Sage + Monk + Bard

2. Alchemist + Crusader

3. Rogue + Dancer

 


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Posted 17 September 2017 - 05:23 AM

I like the stat food buff, both vip and non vip have access. The cooldown is fine as well, since foods can always be purchased if they are wanted that badly.

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Posted 05 October 2017 - 11:26 AM

"Kafra Food will not stack with the Miracle Elixir Buff"

 

what does that mean? if i use the miracle elixir buff i have +10 stats all

 

and there are buff foods like +10 str only for 30 min or +10 dex for 30 min.

 

 

can they both be used at the same time so +20 is possible? or does it not work? what u mean by "not stack"...

 

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