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#76 Zoltor

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Posted 02 December 2018 - 06:24 AM

I really don't understand why kRO decided to shut servers down due to this, just sell the items separately as stand alone kafra shop items. Considering the cost of the loot boxes vs rarity of items in such, I would say 12-15$ for the better rares, 3-5$ for the secondary equipment reward and 1$ for the common, yet still very useful stuff that use to only be had through lootboxes.

 

It's really that simple, and frankly, due to how RO works, they would probally make more money this way, as people will beable to buy as much of X items, as they want. Sigh I hope they're not so dumb to shut down iRO apposed to just slitghly changing the distribution method.


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Posted 02 December 2018 - 12:55 PM

I really don't understand why kRO decided to shut servers down due to this, just sell the items separately as stand alone kafra shop items. Considering the cost of the loot boxes vs rarity of items in such, I would say 12-15$ for the better rares, 3-5$ for the secondary equipment reward and 1$ for the common, yet still very useful stuff that use to only be had through lootboxes.

 

It's really that simple, and frankly, due to how RO works, they would probally make more money this way, as people will beable to buy as much of X items, as they want. Sigh I hope they're not so dumb to shut down iRO apposed to just slitghly changing the distribution method.

 

I proposed something a long time ago that basically allowed them to do just that and keep it viable. It was turning our silvervine fruit into currency, since 4 silvervine is approximately 40c USD, you could then charge based on that. But they never did wanna let go of lootboxes, namely because of how much money they make with them, even though ultimately a system like this would have resulted in a much better result than what we have now.


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#78 nyyaan

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Posted 02 December 2018 - 02:16 PM

Some people just love the thrill of gambling. Though we put real world currency into pixels hahaha


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Posted 02 December 2018 - 07:48 PM

From my understanding they considered loot box as a form of gambling. Assuming WP remove all OCPs. This is what will happen, All items in the OCPs now have their fixed KP.
 
Siting OCP 24 as example
* Rare  (3K kp each)
     Shoes of Punishment 
     Imperial Boots            
     Enforcer Shoes           
     Etran Bundle A           
 
* Semi Rare (1K kp each)
     Leviathan Muffler    
     Clergy Nurse Cap   
 
* Uncommon (500 kp each)           
     Vicious Cloth       
     Fallen Angel Shoes  
     Maero Mask          
 
* Common (100 kp each)
     Wing of Beezlebub Box  
     Blacksmith Blessing x 1   
     Battle Manualx3 x 1    
     Miracle Elixir x 1       
     Bloody Dead Branch x 1 
 
Looks good for WP, but not sure if it's appealing to the gamer. Besides buying OCP is voluntary. Why spoil the fun? Or do they need to put a label on the OCP "Gambling is dangerous to your wallet".
 

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Posted 02 December 2018 - 08:22 PM

Besides buying OCP is voluntary. Why spoil the fun? Or do they need to put a remark on the OCP stating gambling is dangerous to your wallet :heh:


The issue is that, according to the ESRB, any game that contains gambling with real money must be marketed as AO (Adult Only). RO is being marketed as T (Teens), which allows the game to be open to more players than AO would. The main goal of any MMO is to attract as many players as possible and an AO rating would restrict the amount of players that would be allowed to register accounts.

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Posted 02 December 2018 - 08:57 PM

The issue is that, according to the ESRB, any game that contains gambling with real money must be marketed as AO (Adult Only). RO is being marketed as T (Teens), which allows the game to be open to more players than AO would. The main goal of any MMO is to attract as many players as possible and an AO rating would restrict the amount of players that would be allowed to register accounts.

 

RATING CATEGORIES

TEEN

Content is generally suitable for ages 13 and up. May contain violence, suggestive themes, crude humor, minimal blood, simulated gambling and/or infrequent use of strong language.

 

ADULTS ONLY

Content suitable only for adults ages 18 and up. May include prolonged scenes of intense violence, graphic sexual content and/or gambling with real currency.

 

RO should move to Adults Only category if necessary. As of now, enjoy the OCP while it lasts.

AO category guarantees the availability of OCP. Big spender in the game are adults and I assume we are all adults now.


Edited by Si6ers, 02 December 2018 - 09:38 PM.

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#82 yauhoilun

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Posted 02 December 2018 - 10:57 PM

Freeloaders may or may not be adults lol
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Posted 04 December 2018 - 05:35 AM

symbiosis parasitism


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Posted 05 December 2018 - 12:08 AM

Thanks for this info pls keep us updated since this kind of topic involves us online gamer. Thanks for this :)
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Posted 09 December 2018 - 05:51 AM

The game fate grandorder has some sort of "sure" to get somehow loot after trying a lot of times on paid loot boxes

iRO has a sure to get another chance after certain tries which is still not sure (boxter)

Still salty as how all my boxes turned out to be oda then boxtered to get even less oda, bought a few oda and add it to the lesser oda to get even lesser amount of oda :v

i think u cant compare with fgo in fgo i get all best ssr. while in in ragnarok with same money i spend i still cant get the faking upgrade that i want


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Posted 09 December 2018 - 05:03 PM

i think u cant compare with fgo in fgo i get all best ssr. while in in ragnarok with same money i spend i still cant get the faking upgrade that i want


Welp i was looking at the unknown spirit origin stuff which gives you any ssr you want if completed :heh: (10 copies of the same ssr after getting first 5 thing)
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Posted 30 January 2019 - 07:37 PM

And EA still insists on fighting the law. Good luck with that.


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Posted 31 January 2019 - 12:45 AM

Been waiting for your update haha thanks for this!! :)
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Posted 08 May 2019 - 07:45 PM

Dun, dun, DUUUNNNN....!

WARNING: Strong language.


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Posted 08 May 2019 - 09:01 PM

still unsure, from my experience USA values money making over anything else, they got themselves dozens of millions of heroin addicts just out of greed, lootboxes seem harmless in comparism.


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Posted 08 May 2019 - 09:41 PM

More discussion delves into changing the goal of game development back to making good games instead of making good monetization.


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Posted 12 May 2019 - 01:18 AM

(make OCP craftable and made some revamps on some OCP that are godly as -_-)

 

if they want some money. copy Azur lane's format of getting money xD

 

(costumes <3)


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Posted 12 May 2019 - 10:37 AM

Craftable old ocp and shadow gears are already in kRO after their base lvl 185 and mvp adjustment patches btw.
Tldr: B> zelunium & shadowdecon

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Posted 13 May 2019 - 04:25 AM

(make OCP craftable and made some revamps on some OCP that are godly as -_-)

 

if they want some money. copy Azur lane's format of getting money xD

 

(costumes <3)

 

pay2fab is the way to goooo :D
costumes for everybody yay


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#95 Netha

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Posted 13 May 2019 - 07:08 AM

they already spam costumes + OCP and were forced to update their OCP scam scheme (want your S-Tier item? Be willing to spend 300$ and maybe still not get it) in favour of customers a little bit because people got sick of it.


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Posted 20 June 2019 - 01:01 PM

Uh... wasn't an issue with Kinder Eggs was that they kind of choked kids that weren't careful? Rather appropriate analogy.


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#97 Netha

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Posted 20 June 2019 - 04:31 PM

Really hoping that they ban loot boxes, wanna see what happens to iRO (and RO in general) then :S The fact that EA goes full mental makes me think chances are pretty high that actually happens.

 

Make them regret they went full greed mode with this f2p microtransactions crap.


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Posted 22 June 2019 - 06:29 AM

It's not gambling, it's surprise donations!
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Posted 22 June 2019 - 10:47 AM

yea, people spend thousands to ten thousands of $$ on kinder eggs to get every last damn toy there is...thrice! And sometimes go broke over it, -_- happens.


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Posted 10 July 2019 - 11:25 PM

Welp, time to play the death march for microtransactions and loot boxes.


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